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[AM50]

Ailith430 wrote...

AM50 wrote...
Discussing? No. No harm in that. Its what the threads always turn into though. Its all about the "Evil" fox news and the "evil" media making Bioware cut the scenes. The point is, nobody knows except the Bioware staff. And more than likely it will stay that way.

But the problem with these threads is they become a political flame war. With one side saying they hate gays and the other side saying those who don't agree with same-sex are ignorant and stupid. Obviously, not everyone is like that, but a good majority fall on those sides of the spectrum. That's why I don't like the discussions on it.

I don't agree with gay marriage but I shouldn't get called ignorant for believing that. Its the ultimate hypocracy. If you believe in homosexuality, fine. So be it. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. But to both sides, don't demonize the other side if you don't believe in what they do.

/end-rant

Well, I can see your point, and yes thats happened before in the past, but so far the trolls have been down to a minimum in this thread I'm hapy to say.

...And just out of curosity, how does one "believe" in homosexuality?

I meant support. My bad. I was typing at the speed of light haha. :happy:

That's the reason the continued discussion over why Bioware cut homosexual romance grinds my gears. They always end up the same way everytime. I just think that its foolish to speculate why the cut it because they aren't going to tell us. It would be more productive to shout at a wall. That's the main point behind my rantings.

newcomplex wrote...

I support gay marriage, but this is the single most rationale and intelligent opinion on this thread.

[smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/heart.png[/smilie]  (in a straight way?)

Hahaha thanks! :happy: But u cantz us3 complmentz on teh interwebz! lulz.

A little rant never hurt anyone right?

[Cutlass Jack]

The Angry One wrote...

Ailith430 wrote...

...And just out of curosity, how does one "believe" in homosexuality?

Ah yes, "homosexuality". An alleged sexual preference of one's own gender. We have dismissed these claims.

Brilliant.

[Ailith Tycane]

newcomplex wrote...

Either way, I don't particularily care about gay in this game.    I just want my talimance on femshep.    If gays get a gay romance but I still don't have my talimance, I'm going to pretend to be a lesbian girl, make a new account, have everyone call me a pirate, and rant about why bioware is biased against lesbians, but not gays, and how they are all bigots (sound familiar?)

Not really...

[Yeled]

Aradace wrote...

IRL, no, I wouldnt "kill" them lol...IRL, I just punch them in the face when they make passes at me (which more than one gay man has in my life).  But as long as they leave me be, Im fine with them.  Now in game, yes, I wouldnt hesitate to kill said character because it is precisely that, a game. 

This is what passes for enlightenment these days.  I especially like the 'lol' and the big smiley face at the end.  Its like the cherry on top.

[Aradace]

Sphynx118 wrote...

Aradace wrote...

gemc123 wrote...

Aradace wrote...

Prefer this over a "gay" scene any day of the week lol...I even went out of my way every single time in DA:O to kill Zevran because I didnt want him in my party...So, as a compromise, as long as I can "kill" the "gay" character or just out right not recruit them in ME3, then by all means.  Go ahead and let them add it but I seriously dont want the crap stuffed down my throat so I want that option to just not have that particular character at all.

...please tell me you're joking? about the 'killing a character coz they're gay' thing? please?



I'm scared.

IRL, no, I wouldnt "kill" them lol...IRL, I just punch them in the face when they make passes at me (which more than one gay man has in my life).  But as long as they leave me be, Im fine with them.  Now in game, yes, I wouldnt hesitate to kill said character because it is precisely that, a game. 

Gay men hit on you? lol m8 you must look teh gay

Admittedly, Im a goth so yea, by society's standards that puts me in that bracket probably which I have accepted long ago.  Dunno why, but that's just how its always been.  I guess some gay men are attracted to goth guys lol...Either way, it was fun pounding their faces and then breaking their noses with my head Jubei from Ninja Scroll style lol

[Sphynx118]

Mox Ruuga wrote...

Aradace wrote...

IRL, no, I wouldnt "kill" them lol...IRL, I just punch them in the face when they make passes at me (which more than one gay man has in my life).  But as long as they leave me be, Im fine with them.  Now in game, yes, I wouldnt hesitate to kill said character because it is precisely that, a game. 

You physically assault people "who make passes" at you?

Hes angry because his style attracts gay people

[newcomplex]

I like how "kill" is in quotation marks.   The implications are hilarious. 

I wonder if the logical extension of that thought is:

I wouldnt "kill" them either. I would just tie them to the back of my pickup truck. If they die, its not my fault.




"That was a joke" -EDI

Modifié par newcomplex, 19 février 2010 - 09:30 .

[The Angry One]

Luc0s wrote...

Yes, and making every character bisexual because you want so isn't.

If it doesn't subvert their characteristics, why not?

[Aradace]

Yeled wrote...

Aradace wrote...

IRL, no, I wouldnt "kill" them lol...IRL, I just punch them in the face when they make passes at me (which more than one gay man has in my life).  But as long as they leave me be, Im fine with them.  Now in game, yes, I wouldnt hesitate to kill said character because it is precisely that, a game. 

This is what passes for enlightenment these days.  I especially like the 'lol' and the big smiley face at the end.  Its like the cherry on top.

you're welcome

[Ailith Tycane]

The Angry One wrote...

Luc0s wrote...

Yes, and making every character bisexual because you want so isn't.

If it doesn't subvert their characteristics, why not?

Exactly what I've been saying the whole time, lol.

[The Angry One]

newcomplex wrote...

I like how "kill" is in quotation marks.

I wouldnt "kill" them either. I would just tie them to the back of my pickup truck. If they die, its not my fault.

I hope my joke is accepted as a joke and does not warrant FBI investigation

[newcomplex]

Aradace wrote...

Sphynx118 wrote...

Aradace wrote...

gemc123 wrote...

Aradace wrote...

Prefer this over a "gay" scene any day of the week lol...I even went out of my way every single time in DA:O to kill Zevran because I didnt want him in my party...So, as a compromise, as long as I can "kill" the "gay" character or just out right not recruit them in ME3, then by all means.  Go ahead and let them add it but I seriously dont want the crap stuffed down my throat so I want that option to just not have that particular character at all.

...please tell me you're joking? about the 'killing a character coz they're gay' thing? please?



I'm scared.

IRL, no, I wouldnt "kill" them lol...IRL, I just punch them in the face when they make passes at me (which more than one gay man has in my life).  But as long as they leave me be, Im fine with them.  Now in game, yes, I wouldnt hesitate to kill said character because it is precisely that, a game. 

Gay men hit on you? lol m8 you must look teh gay

Admittedly, Im a goth so yea, by society's standards that puts me in that bracket probably which I have accepted long ago.  Dunno why, but that's just how its always been.  I guess some gay men are attracted to goth guys lol...Either way, it was fun pounding their faces and then breaking their noses with my head Jubei from Ninja Scroll style lol

Go figure.

I've punched goths simply for being goth in the past.  

Ailith430 wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Luc0s
wrote...

Yes, and making every character bisexual because you
want so isn't.

If it doesn't subvert their
characteristics, why not?

Exactly what I've been
saying the whole time, lol.

Having everyone on my ship being bisexual hurts immersion.   

I mean, if homosexuality is 100% accepted in the future, thats great.    That doesn't mean everyone would suddenly become bisexual for no reason.

That being said, i want talifemance.

NAOW

Modifié par newcomplex, 19 février 2010 - 09:29 .

[Sphynx118]

The Angry One wrote...

Luc0s wrote...

Yes, and making every character bisexual because you want so isn't.

If it doesn't subvert their characteristics, why not?

Some people will se them differently so it does actually change the character you know

[Yeled]

Aradace wrote...

Admittedly, Im a goth so yea, by society's standards that puts me in that bracket probably which I have accepted long ago.  Dunno why, but that's just how its always been.  I guess some gay men are attracted to goth guys lol...Either way, it was fun pounding their faces and then breaking their noses with my head Jubei from Ninja Scroll style lol

I guess they don't make goths like they used to back in my day.

/old person rant

[The Angry One]

Sphynx118 wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Luc0s wrote...

Yes, and making every character bisexual because you want so isn't.

If it doesn't subvert their characteristics, why not?

Some people will se them differently so it does actually change the character you know

Why? This is the future, we should be beyond that.

[AM50]

Cutlass Jack wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Ailith430 wrote...

...And just out of curosity, how does one "believe" in homosexuality?

Ah yes, "homosexuality". An alleged sexual preference of one's own gender. We have dismissed these claims.

Brilliant.

See above post. I meant to say support.  kthanxbai

[Sphynx118]

The Angry One wrote...

Sphynx118 wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Luc0s wrote...

Yes, and making every character bisexual because you want so isn't.

If it doesn't subvert their characteristics, why not?

Some people will se them differently so it does actually change the character you know

Why? This is the future, we should be beyond that.

We should be alot of things:P THat is one of them. But sadly some arent

[Cutlass Jack]

Sphynx118 wrote...

Some people will se them differently so it does actually change the character you know

People who persue only 'straight' options would never see them differently though.

[CmdrFenix83]

The Angry One wrote...

Abirn wrote...

Since when does the media matter?  Much less fox "news" which is a complete joke.

Ask BioWare. Or you tell me why tasteful nudity has given way to gratuitous clothed dry-humping.

At least ME2 tried to mask it for the most part.  The DA:O scenes were on the level of comedy rather than romantic.

[Nozybidaj]

The Angry One wrote...


Why? This is the future, we should be beyond that.

Kelly Chambers:  "It is the character of a person that matters.  Not race or gender."

[Aradace]

Guess I fall into the "cute" category then lol

[CrassKid]

At first, I disagreed with the OP.  Here's what I was thinking. If the writers decided that the ME2 LIs are all heterosexual, then that is just the way it is and changing them to be bisexual doesn't make sense. No, sexual orientation does not define character, but it is a personal attribute. It's like handedness. Some people are right handed, some people are left handed, and some people are ambidextrous. A fictional universe where everyone is ambidextrous would seem odd because that's just not the way it works. Likewise making everyone bisexual would just seem odd. Yes, I'm aware that in the ME2 it seems all major characters are hetero. I'd have nothing against BW adding LIs that are ******/bisexual. If that's what a character is, then so be it.

Given that player control over the story is one of Mass Effect's main features, however, I have to agree those who support the idea. Extra VA work aside, I see no harm with allowing each player decide who (s)he wants to romance and the nature of that romance. If someone wants their ManShep to have an intimate relationship with Garrus, then more power to them.

Modifié par CrassKid, 19 février 2010 - 09:31 .

[tmp7704]

The Angry One wrote...

Sphynx118 wrote...

Some people will se them differently so it does actually change the character you know

Why? This is the future, we should be beyond that.

Common sense and nothing to do with time travel -- it's pretty normal to perceive differently the same person depending whether they can see you sexually attractive, as it can alter the character's perception of your own character and the attitude towards you (or reasons behind that attitude)

Modifié par tmp7704, 19 février 2010 - 09:32 .