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[Sphynx118]

The Angry One wrote...

Sphynx118 wrote...

They always record lines for every occasion when they have the actors doing it so that they dont have to go back and hire them again. Doesnt mean it was supposed to happen an then got cut.
 Tali and legion have recorded dialogue for jacks recruitment and Horizon.

So how come there's so dialog for any homosexual romance in ME2? Hmmmm?
I smell fish.

They like to keep all options open perhaps. If they suddenly wanted to implement a gay romance in the final stage then they wouldnt need to rehire the voice actors a second time

[Aradace]

The Angry One wrote...

AM50 wrote...

I wouldn't care. I like the story of the game. If they cut the romances, bummer, but life goes on. I will still love the trilogy the same. Its just a game people. So what, Bioware didn't put in gay romance scenes. Let's assume that the EVIL fox news and media had something to do with it. It's their game, their project, their time, they can do with it as they please.

Yeah, maybe ME3 should have you play only as a Volus in a red and blue suit.
And all gameplay involves jumping over barrels and throwing hammers at gorillas.
It's their game, their project, their time, they can do with it as they please.

Prefer this over a "gay" scene any day of the week lol...I even went out of my way every single time in DA:O to kill Zevran because I didnt want him in my party...So, as a compromise, as long as I can "kill" the "gay" character or just out right not recruit them in ME3, then by all means.  Go ahead and let them add it but I seriously dont want the crap stuffed down my throat so I want that option to just not have that particular character at all.

[Ailith Tycane]

Luc0s wrote...

Miranda is not bisexual and I rather see it stays that way. Screw you horny femShep playing fans who demand lesbian "sex" in ME. You have Garrus, Thane and Jacob. We have Tali, Miranda and Jack. Don't like the femShep romances? Play maleShep. Don't like maleShep either? Well that's your problem.

Oooo, someone's grouchy.

Here, this smiley always makes me feel better when I'm butt hurt. 

[The Angry One]

Luc0s wrote...

Miranda is not bisexual and I rather see it stays that way. Screw you horny femShep playing fans who demand lesbian "sex" in ME. You have Garrus, Thane and Jacob. We have Tali, Miranda and Jack. Don't like the femShep romances? Play maleShep. Don't like maleShep either? Well that's your problem.

Oooh someone's angry.
Then again I would be too if I lacked any imagination and played as Sheploo.

And yes I realise the irony of that statement given my name.

Edit: Btw, Garrus >>>> Miranda/Jack/Tali/Thane/Jacob

Modifié par The Angry One, 19 février 2010 - 09:11 .

[The Angry One]

Aradace wrote...

Prefer this over a "gay" scene any day of the week lol...I even went out of my way every single time in DA:O to kill Zevran because I didnt want him in my party...So, as a compromise, as long as I can "kill" the "gay" character or just out right not recruit them in ME3, then by all means.  Go ahead and let them add it but I seriously dont want the crap stuffed down my throat so I want that option to just not have that particular character at all.

Tolerance!

[Ailith Tycane]

Luc0s wrote...

Ailith430 wrote...

Luc0s wrote...

Miranda is not bisexual and I rather see it stays that way. Screw you horny femShep playing fans who demand lesbian "sex" in ME. You have Garrus, Thane and Jacob. We have Tali, Miranda and Jack. Don't like the femShep romances? Play maleShep. Don't like maleShep either? Well that's your problem.

Oooo, someone's grouchy.

Here, this smiley always makes me feel better when I'm butt hurt. 

Noo..noo... noooooooooooooooo! I HATE wizards.
Why doesn't this forum have a pirate smiley?

PS: My butt is fine thank you.

You're welcome.

[Sphynx118]

The Angry One wrote...

Luc0s wrote...

Miranda is not bisexual and I rather see it stays that way. Screw you horny femShep playing fans who demand lesbian "sex" in ME. You have Garrus, Thane and Jacob. We have Tali, Miranda and Jack. Don't like the femShep romances? Play maleShep. Don't like maleShep either? Well that's your problem.

Oooh someone's angry.
Then again I would be too if I lacked any imagination and played as Sheploo.

And yes I realise the irony of that statement given my name.

Hey no hate on sheploo! Im a straight guy and i can admitt that the model for shepard looks hot and i would totally marry him if i was teh gay

[gemc123]

Aradace wrote...

Prefer this over a "gay" scene any day of the week lol...I even went out of my way every single time in DA:O to kill Zevran because I didnt want him in my party...So, as a compromise, as long as I can "kill" the "gay" character or just out right not recruit them in ME3, then by all means.  Go ahead and let them add it but I seriously dont want the crap stuffed down my throat so I want that option to just not have that particular character at all.

...please tell me you're joking? about the 'killing a character coz they're gay' thing? please?



I'm scared.

[AM50]

Ailith430 wrote...

Yeled wrote...

AM50 wrote...

I wouldn't care. I like the story of the game. If they cut the romances, bummer, but life goes on. I will still love the trilogy the same. Its just a game people. So what, Bioware didn't put in gay romance scenes. Let's assume that the EVIL fox news and media had something to do with it. It's their game, their project, their time, they can do with it as they please.

And we are free to discuss those decisions and, if we like, be disappointed in them as we please.  Its our time, our posts, our experiences of the game...we can do with it as we please.

Exactly. I don't see any harm in discussing it.

Discussing? No. No harm in that. Its what the threads always turn into though. Its all about the "Evil" fox news and the "evil" media making Bioware cut the scenes. The point is, nobody knows except the Bioware staff. And more than likely it will stay that way.

But the problem with these threads is they become a political flame war. With one side saying they hate gays and the other side saying those who don't agree with same-sex are ignorant and stupid. Obviously, not everyone is like that, but a good majority fall on those sides of the spectrum. That's why I don't like the discussions on it.

I don't agree with gay marriage but I shouldn't get called ignorant for believing that. Its the ultimate hypocracy. If you believe in homosexuality, fine. So be it. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. But to both sides, don't demonize the other side if you don't believe in what they do.

/end-rant

[newcomplex]

Sphynx118 wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Sphynx118 wrote...

They always record lines for every occasion when they have the actors doing it so that they dont have to go back and hire them again. Doesnt mean it was supposed to happen an then got cut.
 Tali and legion have recorded dialogue for jacks recruitment and Horizon.

So how come there's so dialog for any homosexual romance in ME2? Hmmmm?
I smell fish.

They like to keep all options open perhaps. If they suddenly wanted to implement a gay romance in the final stage then they wouldnt need to rehire the voice actors a second time

This is correct.    Even Kasumi's files are in the game, i would be willing to bet all dialogue until ME3/major ME2 expansion are already done, with the content itself getting finished, bug tested, getting localized etc.     It would be an incredible hassle to get those high ranking voice actors again, while such large quantiities of dialogue are probably done via contract throughout many days, not on an hourly rate, so they might as well get as many dialogues as possible.

In most game development studios, the people getting ahold and recording and working with voice do not work hand in hand with game developers, though I'm sure the guys at bioware work relatively closely.   

[newcomplex]

AM50 wrote...

Ailith430 wrote...

Yeled wrote...

AM50 wrote...

I wouldn't care. I like the story of the game. If they cut the romances, bummer, but life goes on. I will still love the trilogy the same. Its just a game people. So what, Bioware didn't put in gay romance scenes. Let's assume that the EVIL fox news and media had something to do with it. It's their game, their project, their time, they can do with it as they please.

And we are free to discuss those decisions and, if we like, be disappointed in them as we please.  Its our time, our posts, our experiences of the game...we can do with it as we please.

Exactly. I don't see any harm in discussing it.

Discussing? No. No harm in that. Its what the threads always turn into though. Its all about the "Evil" fox news and the "evil" media making Bioware cut the scenes. The point is, nobody knows except the Bioware staff. And more than likely it will stay that way.

But the problem with these threads is they become a political flame war. With one side saying they hate gays and the other side saying those who don't agree with same-sex are ignorant and stupid. Obviously, not everyone is like that, but a good majority fall on those sides of the spectrum. That's why I don't like the discussions on it.

I don't agree with gay marriage but I shouldn't get called ignorant for believing that. Its the ultimate hypocracy. If you believe in homosexuality, fine. So be it. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. But to both sides, don't demonize the other side if you don't believe in what they do.

/end-rant

I support gay marriage, but this is the single most rationale and intelligent opinion on this thread.

<3  (in a straight way?)

[Aradace]

The Angry One wrote...

Aradace wrote...

Prefer this over a "gay" scene any day of the week lol...I even went out of my way every single time in DA:O to kill Zevran because I didnt want him in my party...So, as a compromise, as long as I can "kill" the "gay" character or just out right not recruit them in ME3, then by all means.  Go ahead and let them add it but I seriously dont want the crap stuffed down my throat so I want that option to just not have that particular character at all.

Tolerance!

I am a tolerant person tooth-be-told...And would seriously compromise on above said action.  As long as the player has the "option" whether to recruit the character or not, I wouldnt have a problem with it because I could just bypass the character all together.  Those that wanted to "persue" said character in question could get him/her.  This way the "issue" isnt forced completely upon those that dont want to see it, and the option is there for those that do.

[Ailith Tycane]

AM50 wrote...
Discussing? No. No harm in that. Its what the threads always turn into though. Its all about the "Evil" fox news and the "evil" media making Bioware cut the scenes. The point is, nobody knows except the Bioware staff. And more than likely it will stay that way.

But the problem with these threads is they become a political flame war. With one side saying they hate gays and the other side saying those who don't agree with same-sex are ignorant and stupid. Obviously, not everyone is like that, but a good majority fall on those sides of the spectrum. That's why I don't like the discussions on it.

I don't agree with gay marriage but I shouldn't get called ignorant for believing that. Its the ultimate hypocracy. If you believe in homosexuality, fine. So be it. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. But to both sides, don't demonize the other side if you don't believe in what they do.

/end-rant

Well, I can see your point, and yes thats happened before in the past, but so far the trolls have been down to a minimum in this thread I'm hapy to say.

...And just out of curosity, how does one "believe" in homosexuality?

[The Angry One]

AM50 wrote...

Discussing? No. No harm in that. Its what the threads always turn into though. Its all about the "Evil" fox news and the "evil" media making Bioware cut the scenes. The point is, nobody knows except the Bioware staff. And more than likely it will stay that way.

BioWare's cowing to the puritan media is blatantly obvious.
Let me repeat myself: Tasteful nudity in ME1 gave way to clothed dry-humping in ME2. Why? It looks silly. There was nothing wrong with ME1's scenes... oh except the media didn't like it. Now they're gone. Coincidence? Bite me.

And if BioWare cowed to that.. who knows what else they decided not to do based on media pressure and a desire to maximise sales in the American "sex = evil, violence and hardcore death = good!" market.

[Aradace]

gemc123 wrote...

Aradace wrote...

Prefer this over a "gay" scene any day of the week lol...I even went out of my way every single time in DA:O to kill Zevran because I didnt want him in my party...So, as a compromise, as long as I can "kill" the "gay" character or just out right not recruit them in ME3, then by all means.  Go ahead and let them add it but I seriously dont want the crap stuffed down my throat so I want that option to just not have that particular character at all.

...please tell me you're joking? about the 'killing a character coz they're gay' thing? please?



I'm scared.

IRL, no, I wouldnt "kill" them lol...IRL, I just punch them in the face when they make passes at me (which more than one gay man has in my life).  But as long as they leave me be, Im fine with them.  Now in game, yes, I wouldnt hesitate to kill said character because it is precisely that, a game. 

[The Angry One]

Ailith430 wrote...

...And just out of curosity, how does one "believe" in homosexuality?

Ah yes, "homosexuality". An alleged sexual preference of one's own gender. We have dismissed these claims.

[newcomplex]

Ailith430 wrote...

AM50 wrote...
Discussing? No. No harm in that. Its what the threads always turn into though. Its all about the "Evil" fox news and the "evil" media making Bioware cut the scenes. The point is, nobody knows except the Bioware staff. And more than likely it will stay that way.

But the problem with these threads is they become a political flame war. With one side saying they hate gays and the other side saying those who don't agree with same-sex are ignorant and stupid. Obviously, not everyone is like that, but a good majority fall on those sides of the spectrum. That's why I don't like the discussions on it.

I don't agree with gay marriage but I shouldn't get called ignorant for believing that. Its the ultimate hypocracy. If you believe in homosexuality, fine. So be it. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. But to both sides, don't demonize the other side if you don't believe in what they do.

/end-rant

Well, I can see your point, and yes thats happened before in the past, but so far the trolls have been down to a minimum in this thread I'm hapy to say.

...And just out of curosity, how does one "believe" in homosexuality?

The same way you believe in the little choo choo that could, or your uncle who is trying to be the first astronaut to go to mars

encouragement .

If your uncle is trying to go to uranus however, please, encouragement should not be the apt response.


Either way, I don't particularily care about gay in this game.    I just want my talimance on femshep.    If gays get a gay romance but I still don't have my talimance, I'm going to pretend to be a lesbian girl, make a new account, have everyone call me a pirate, and rant about why bioware is biased against lesbians, but not gays, and how they are all bigots (sound familiar?)

Modifié par newcomplex, 19 février 2010 - 09:18 .

[Sphynx118]

The Angry One wrote...

AM50 wrote...

Discussing? No. No harm in that. Its what the threads always turn into though. Its all about the "Evil" fox news and the "evil" media making Bioware cut the scenes. The point is, nobody knows except the Bioware staff. And more than likely it will stay that way.

BioWare's cowing to the puritan media is blatantly obvious.
Let me repeat myself: Tasteful nudity in ME1 gave way to clothed dry-humping in ME2. Why? It looks silly. There was nothing wrong with ME1's scenes... oh except the media didn't like it. Now they're gone. Coincidence? Bite me.

And if BioWare cowed to that.. who knows what else they decided not to do based on media pressure and a desire to maximise sales in the American "sex = evil, violence and hardcore death = good!" market.

You got a point with the sex scenes. They went from tastefull and gorgeous to christian sidehugs

[The Angry One]

Luc0s wrote...

My imagination goes way beyond your comprehension.

Sheploo > 90% of all custom Sheps (customize options kinda suck in both ME1 and ME2).

Hahahahahaha...

Good, then by all means stick with Garrus and lets stop this "we demand girl-on-girl with Miranda and Tali in ME!" nonsense.

No, since variety is good.

[Aradace]

The Angry One wrote...

Ailith430 wrote...

...And just out of curosity, how does one "believe" in homosexuality?

Ah yes, "homosexuality". An alleged sexual preference of one's own gender. We have dismissed these claims.

god dammit lol..you beat me to it lol

[Sphynx118]

Aradace wrote...

gemc123 wrote...

Aradace wrote...

Prefer this over a "gay" scene any day of the week lol...I even went out of my way every single time in DA:O to kill Zevran because I didnt want him in my party...So, as a compromise, as long as I can "kill" the "gay" character or just out right not recruit them in ME3, then by all means.  Go ahead and let them add it but I seriously dont want the crap stuffed down my throat so I want that option to just not have that particular character at all.

...please tell me you're joking? about the 'killing a character coz they're gay' thing? please?



I'm scared.

IRL, no, I wouldnt "kill" them lol...IRL, I just punch them in the face when they make passes at me (which more than one gay man has in my life).  But as long as they leave me be, Im fine with them.  Now in game, yes, I wouldnt hesitate to kill said character because it is precisely that, a game. 

Gay men hit on you? lol m8 you must look teh gay

[HAGA NAGA]

Thank you for the link OP. very hot! i love it and i agree with you completely on f/f romances. shoulda been in the game.

[Mox Ruuga]

Aradace wrote...

IRL, no, I wouldnt "kill" them lol...IRL, I just punch them in the face when they make passes at me (which more than one gay man has in my life).  But as long as they leave me be, Im fine with them.  Now in game, yes, I wouldnt hesitate to kill said character because it is precisely that, a game. 

You physically assault people "who make passes" at you?