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Railstay

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The Shadow Broker.

  • He is extremely influential and powerful.  The only way Miranda could protect herself from him is not by hiding herself, but by working for a man even the Shadow Broker can't afford to cross:  The Illusive Man.
  • Miranda and the Illusive Man have a mutually beneficial relationship.  She guarantees protection for herself and the resources to hide her sister, while the Illusive Man gains a hostage.  The Shadow Broker would never dare cross the Illusive Man because of this.
  • Miranda's father is obssessed with maintaining a dynasty, grooming his daughters for absolute perfection and teaching them that every desire comes with a string attached.  If the Shadow Broker is a title that could be inherited rather than an individual, these motivations begin to make sense.  Even the appearances of the Lawson sisters are engineered, presumably so they could more easily extract information or gain trust.
  • Miranda says that the Illusive Man found her and recruited her at an early age.  When pressed about this, she replies that she was, "Old enough to know this is what I wanted."  Going with the theme of Miranda's father giving her anything she wanted with an angle for the long-term plan, it suggests that Miranda understood the implications of Cerberus hiring her.  Cerberus protects her and gives her the resources to keep tabs on her father and hide her sister, but it also means she is essentially a hostage that the Illusive Man can use as leverage over her father, the Shadow Broker.  Miranda understands and accepts this.
  • Miranda says her father donated generously to Cerberus until she joined them, at which point he stopped.
  • Miranda discovered Cerberus, and joined them due to her father's connections, in her own words.  She explicitly says she also joined them to protect herself, most likely because she knew hiding from the Shadow Broker would be futile.
  • Miranda says her father is motivated by completely selfish agenda (According to Barla Von, the Shadow Broker sells information to anyone who pays the highest bidder) while Cerberus' is concerned with the survival of humanity.
  • The Shadow Broker and Illusive Man are hinted to be enemies, or at the very least uneasy associates.  This is confirmed when Shepard asks the Illusive Man about Liara.  The Illusive Man says that Liara is not to be trusted, because according to his agents, she is working for the Shadow Broker.
  • The Shadow Broker was the first person to obtain Shepard's body.  It was his/her intent to sell Shepard to the Collectors.  This plan was thwarted when Liara recovered Shepard's body and gave it over to Cerberus, so obviously, there is friction there.  And yet what keeps the Shadow Broker from making a move on Cerberus to recover the most valuable individual in the entire galaxy?  The only explanation is that the Illusive Man holds a resource that the Shadow Broker would never risk losing -- this resource seems to be Miranda herself.
  • The game makes it a point to never name or place Miranda's father.  What we do know of him from her descriptions is his wealth, enormous influence and ego.  Who has influence enough to find Miranda no matter where she'll go?  Miranda would understand that hiding is pointless, so she realizes the only way to stay safe is to ally herself with an organization that could keep her safe.

Modifié par Railstay, 25 février 2010 - 08:40 .


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Count Viceroy

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No, Mirandas father is

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Modifié par Count Viceroy, 19 février 2010 - 07:25 .


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ItsFreakinJesus

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Miranda's father is some nameless, faceless entity that never needs to make an on-screen appearance in a Mass Effect game.

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boardnfool86

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can't be, miranda's father is well known, wealthy and ego maniacal... the shadow broker's face never gets seen... plus Miranda's father use to give generously to cerberus

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Mirand's father will have a major role in ME3. He was just busy in 1 and 2 trying to get a refund so once he finally gets his refund in 3 all hell breaks loose.

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I think we know Miranda's father pretty well. Some of us gave him a space station as a present.

Modifié par Michoss, 19 février 2010 - 07:28 .


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Johnters

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I want it to be Udina.

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Cutlass Jack

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Miranda is her father.

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Kaiser Shepard

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Armistan Banes.

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Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien

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Railstay wrote...

The Shadow Broker.

That is all.

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sergio71785

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If it were the Shadow Broker, I doubt Miranda would've been able to escape for very long.

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Valmy

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Councilor Udina is Miranda's father. It is an OUTRAGE that she foiled his plans to take back his daughter. A political ****storm is going to follow.

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Udina is a natural choice for being Miranda's father but I believe an incorrect one. Udina is a diplomat and without the resources and time to build someone like Miranda. However, her father could be pulling Udina's strings no problem. T

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That's a very good question. My guess is he's the Shadow Broker and you have to help Liara hunt him down. We don't know how long the Shadow Broker has been operating, and the rich tycoon would be the Bruce Wayne front he needs to keep it all secret.



Remember, the Shadow Broker wanted information about Cerberus in ME1. Who did Miranda's father used to support but doesn't anymore?



Besides, how crazy awesome would that be in ME3 or a DLC? Go to Earth (first time in ME), hunt down the galaxy's biggest pain in the ass, who turns out to be a potential LI's father, another potential LI's nemesis, and potentially Udina's source of intel that lets him operate so well on the Citadel?



Juicy.

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Nastrod

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In all seriousness the Miranda's father is the Shadow Broker need to stop. From all the stuff Miranda has said and her loyalty quest the most powerful information broker sure has trouble finding information about his family.

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Acero Azul

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Her father is conrad verner and her mother is Doctor chakwas

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JMA22TB

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I doubt the Shadow Broker is omniscient. Really, really good but not omniscient.



Cerberus and the Illusive Man are pretty diligent about covering their tracks; Shepard's been the only person to really uncover the goods about their operation. If the Shadow Broker had to ask Shepard for information, how much does he really know?



Just something to think about. You have to admit the idea would be a good one.

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Jeremy Winston

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Well... the shadow broker seemed to know pretty damn quick that I HAD information about Cerberus that he could get. Heck.. I barely had my field armor off before his representative called me.

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Genetic modifier? Scientist?



It's definitely Warlord Okeer.

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ian528

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To further lampoon the Shadow Broker is her father bit, the Shadow Broker seems to have been around for some time and the likely hood of it being a title for a series of different people is high. I would more likely expect the Shadow Broker to be a volus or asari.

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People... it is pretty obvious... her father is TIM. That man she calls father is just an agent of TIM to create the illusion that is her life. Duh....

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Miranda......I am your father:

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Hmm, I have a feeling the Shadow Broker is Udina, and he isn't Miranda's Father. Plus, she CAN die, so what relevance would her Father being the shadow broker have if she is dead.

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Talogrungi

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TIM is her daddy. False mammary memory implants to enforce loyalty.

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boardnfool86 wrote...

can't be, miranda's father is well known, wealthy and ego maniacal... the shadow broker's face never gets seen... plus Miranda's father use to give generously to cerberus


How's that not make him the Shadow Broker?  Everyone knows who he is.  She never mentioned anything about people knowing his face or his true identity.  The Illusive Man and him both obviously have a lot of friction with one another, even if Miranda's father may donate to Cerberus (supposedly).  When you ask the Illusive Man about Liara after being revived, the Illusive Man says that she may work for the Shadow Broker, and therefore is not to be trusted.

Having Miranda on Cerberus is a trump card.  She is essentially a hostage in the Illusive Man's eyes, which is why the Shadow Broker would never dare cross him, and receiving "donations" from him could be a sort of tribute.