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#151
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Right.  I'm so sure Liara would know her father is a pureblood, based on never actually meeting him/her and just miming what she's been told by her mother.  That's not "in-game" confirmation.  That's just confirmation she believes her father is a pureblood based on what she's been told.  It would only be confirmation if she's actually met him before -- and again, given Bioware's track record, the fact that the identity of Liara's father is shrouded to the point of her never actually seeing him/her, not even a picture or holovid, means that something larger is at work.

And I'll ask again, read the opening post.  Most of the attacks on my theory are already answered there in my bullet points.  It is pointless to try to hide from someone as powerful as the Shadow Broker.  He will always know where you are and how to find you, so Miranda takes the intelligent option, which is to ally herself with someone the Shadow Broker will not dare cross:  The Illusive Man.  She's not trying to hide herself in Cerberus.  She's trying to protect herself with Cerberus.  You even blatantly ignored the very post you quoted to reply to me.

Also, it may be possible that the Shadow Broker is a heretic geth AI, because of the SB's intent to sell Shepard to the Collectors, but that still does not explain why the Shadow Broker would refuse to move on Cerberus and recover the body.  Again, we're talking about losing the single most important person on the galaxy.  The point of this thread is to discern the validity of SB being Miranda's father based on the consistence of actions of various characters in the game, not grasping at possibilties about capability or scope.


how do you know liara didn't meet her "dad" it's not confirmed one way or another. as i said she specifically mentions knowing who "he" is during the "pureblood" conversation - that's in-game FACT, not your suppositions. as for "something larger being at work" just because they don't mention it? C'mon - not everything in the universe has to be a. linked; or b. part of a grand consipracy. for instance the asari matriarch bartender on illium makes pointed references to having a "pureblood" child about a century ago - Liara's age and type, are we supposed to assume "he" is a more correct candidate for being Liara's dad than your theories? there's certainly more evidence for it... (i personally don't believe it - BW like throwing little nuggets in their games for the knowledeable fans).


Probably because Liara herself says, "I have never met my father."  That's a give away, isn't it?  I suppose everyone referring to Sovereign as "Saren's flagship" meant that it was a non-sapient machine, despite having no POV of anyone in the game who has actually boarded the ship?   Also, within Mass Effect there are a bunch of pureblood asari in the game.  Singling the bartender out as her mother is unlikely, but Miranda's actions and the unwillingness of the Shadow Broker to act on Cerberus are all consistent.

as for your tenous "miranda's hiding with cerberus because they wouldn't cross the illusive man" argument, what?! really? the pre-eminent information broker that deals with everyone from the collectors down- (and just having dealings with them puts him/her/them in a league above pretty much anyone) is scared of the illusive man's wrath? yeah, right.

sometimes you have to accept the evidence as it is, until it is contravened by more evidence (not opinion), and then you can further refine your hypothesis.


This is the second time you are completely wrong.  Miranda says verbatim herself, "My father would never dare cross the Illusive Man".  And if the Shadow Broker is as fearless as you claim, why would he allow the most important asset in the galaxy (Shepard) to fall into Cerberus' hands, and make no effort to reclaim it?  Or send his agents to subdue, capture and sell Shepard back to the Collectors once Shepard is recovered and revealing himself? 

You haven't cited a single credible source in any of your arguments.  I've linked various YouTube links where people have been flat out disproved.  "Pit the Council races" against one another.  Uh huh.

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Its easy everybody!
Shadow broker=TIM=Shepard=The consort=Uldina=Darth vader=Blasto=Liara's Father
See.........


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#153
Jebel Krong

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Railstay wrote...

This is the second time you are completely wrong.  Miranda says verbatim herself, "My father would never dare cross the Illusive Man".  And if the Shadow Broker is as fearless as you claim, why would he allow the most important asset in the galaxy (Shepard) to fall into Cerberus' hands, and make no effort to reclaim it?  Or send his agents to subdue, capture and sell Shepard back to the Collectors once Shepard is recovered and revealing himself? 

You haven't cited a single credible source in any of your arguments.  I've linked various YouTube links where people have been flat out disproved.  "Pit the Council races" against one another.  Uh huh.


1. you are an idiot. bending the game to your own "reality" doesn't make your opinions fact...
2. "My father would never dare cross the Illusive Man" kinda rules out the shadow broker as a candidate, then doesn't it? because the shadow broker is stated to be his nemesis, by TIM, more than once.
3. read the comics, although i don't particularly like them it does deal with how cerberus recovers shepards body quite clearly, and the shadow broker's involvement.
4. my "credible source" as you so put it - is what is stated in the damn game - the only canon source there is.

#154
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I think the fact that we have never actually met TIM in person makes me think he may just be some sort of computer AI or something. Miranda's father is directly linked to leading Cerberus.

#155
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I dunno who her biological daddy is but she calls me daddy all the time...



That actually sounds rather wrong...

#156
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I really hope ME3 have a good ending for all of this.