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[The Angry One]

crimzontearz wrote...

please dear god please no more loyalty missions

seriously

"Hey shepard.....I know you are my lover, you helped me complete my pilgrimage, saved my lovely Quarian hips from being exiled AND took my sweet Quarian cherry.............but........I am still not 100% loyal"

Oh please, you know Tali rode Kal'Reegar before ManShep.

[Pocketgb]

Deltaboy37-1 wrote...

I think it is time to do away with recruiting new squad members in ME3. I hope BioWare lets our Shepard start uniting the galaxy in place of recruiting missions.

Personally I think this is where ME3 is going to be different from ME1 and ME2. I think we have our team now, and its now time to get the galaxy united against the reapers.

What are your thoughts?

Agreed completely.

Also, does anyone else feel a bit of "unease" when looking at how much you're "cut-off" from things in DA: Awakenings? It seems like a giant step-back for Bioware in terms of character continuation. I'm praying to bajeezus that ME3 doesn't follow a similar route D:

crimzontearz wrote...

please dear god please no more loyalty missions

seriously

"Hey shepard.....I know you are my lover, you helped me complete my pilgrimage, saved my lovely Quarian hips from being exiled AND took my sweet Quarian cherry.............but........I am still not 100% loyal"

What it should be like in ME3, assuming that the loyalty system still lies in place and that Tali is still a squadmember, that she starts loyal with you, but if you mess things up then you go back to unloyal and be forever screwed.

Modifié par Pocketgb, 20 février 2010 - 03:49 .

[crimzontearz]

The Angry One wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

please dear god please no more loyalty missions

seriously

"Hey shepard.....I know you are my lover, you helped me complete my pilgrimage, saved my lovely Quarian hips from being exiled AND took my sweet Quarian cherry.............but........I am still not 100% loyal"

Oh please, you know Tali rode Kal'Reegar before ManShep.

she specifically says she did not

[CROAT_56]

AntWrig wrote...

CROAT_56 wrote...

after reading this thread i am nervous for me3 i hope its the same cast as ME2 with liara and ash/kaiden joining again and maybe one or twon new guys for those who killed all there squaddies in me2 tough cookies for them it should reward those who worked to get there squad to survive and newbies can read the codex about what happened and leave the squad the same

What?

sorry am tired can't type will split my original post into points

1.  After reading this thread i am nervous for me3.
2.  I hope its the same cast as ME2 with Liara and Ash/Kaiden joining again and maybe one or two new guys.
3.  For those who killed all there squaddies in me2 tough cookies for them, it should reward those who worked to get there squad to survive.
4.  Newbies can read the codex and find out how the crew was formed and there backstories to the point of the start of ME3.
5.  Leave the squad the same.

I hope that clears things up for you i am horrible at grammer

Modifié par CROAT_56, 20 février 2010 - 04:29 .

[JPfanner]

Pocketgb wrote...

Also, does anyone else feel a bit of "unease" when looking at how much you're "cut-off" from things in DA: Awakenings? It seems like a giant step-back for Bioware in terms of character continuation. I'm praying to bajeezus that ME3 doesn't follow a similar route D:

You mean like being cut off from the Alliance, Council, and your LI?

[Wild Still]

XX55XX wrote...

We don't need a Dragon Age in Space.

You must master your taint!

[Pocketgb]

JPfanner wrote...

Pocketgb wrote...

Also, does anyone else feel a bit of "unease" when looking at how much you're "cut-off" from things in DA: Awakenings? It seems like a giant step-back for Bioware in terms of character continuation. I'm praying to bajeezus that ME3 doesn't follow a similar route D:

You mean like being cut off from the Alliance, Council, and your LI?

At least your LI makes an appearance, and with Liara a very captivating one at that. There hasn't even been a single mention if the DA:O LI's make a cameo.

Of course I need to follow my "wait and see" motto, but we haven't gotten a whole lot of good news regarding what we accomplished in DA:O before Awakening.

Modifié par Pocketgb, 20 février 2010 - 04:00 .

[Nozybidaj]

Pocketgb wrote...

JPfanner wrote...

Pocketgb wrote...

Also, does anyone else feel a bit of "unease" when looking at how much you're "cut-off" from things in DA: Awakenings? It seems like a giant step-back for Bioware in terms of character continuation. I'm praying to bajeezus that ME3 doesn't follow a similar route D:

You mean like being cut off from the Alliance, Council, and your LI?

At least your LI makes an appearance, and with Liara a very captivating one at that. There hasn't even been a single mention if the DA:O LI's make a cameo.

Of course I need to follow my "wait and see" motto, but we haven't gotten a whole lot of good news regarding what we accomplished in DA:O before Awakening.

Hey, I'm not saying that Awakening not including your LI doesn't suck, but, lets not pretend the ME1 LI appearances in ME2 are some sort of great literary work of character development and continuity. 

A 3 minute "reunion" where the two of them don't even make mention that they ever even were an item isn't some great step forward for character progression in trilogies everywhere.  In fact, it could be considered even worse since they are basically ignoring you instead of acting the way a real LI should.  At least if the LI isn't there they can't ruin and ignore what came before.

[JPfanner]

Pocketgb wrote...

JPfanner wrote...

Pocketgb wrote...

Also, does anyone else feel a bit of "unease" when looking at how much you're "cut-off" from things in DA: Awakenings? It seems like a giant step-back for Bioware in terms of character continuation. I'm praying to bajeezus that ME3 doesn't follow a similar route D:

You mean like being cut off from the Alliance, Council, and your LI?

At least your LI makes an appearance, and with Liara a very captivating one at that. There hasn't even been a single mention if the DA:O LI's make a cameo.

Of course I need to follow my "wait and see" motto, but we haven't gotten a whole lot of good news regarding what we accomplished in DA:O before Awakening.

This isn't really the thread for it, but I don't think an abortive kiss, a picture on a desk, and no relationship dialog constitutes "captivating".  If it was then I don't there would be so much frustration being expressed in other threads, or using the appearance as justification for moving on for other people.

So for me, and I'd imagine some others, what is being done in that Awakening expansion isn't all that new sounding.  And I have both games and so it's like twice the annoyance.

[Urazz]

Kabraxal wrote...

ME1 and ME2 squadies need to make up 90 percent of the squad in ME3. I can understand slotting in a familiar face from ME1 or ME2 as a new squaddie, but no brand spanking new members are necessary. We have our team. We don't need another new squad.

That's what I feel.  At the most, I'll be fine with 1 or 2 new squadmates that you get in the middle of a mission.  Otherwise, we'll have a fairly big squad selection from what we can get from ME1 and 2 even if half of them won't be available due to something else keeping them from joining you in ME3.

[The BS Police]

I think we should atleast have the ability to recruit Liara and Ashley/Kaiden.

[Collider]

Not having Mass Effect 2 squad mates return as squad mates severely diminishes the consequences of the suicide mission, if not make them negligible. The suicide mission is reduced to a gimmick if all of the squad mates are delegated to short cameos if not gone virtually altogether. We invested time into these squad mates, making sure they were loyal and survived the mission.



The romance subplots have not concluded yet and there is plenty of room for closure. As it stands, the romance thus far have invariably been talk a few times and then be intimate before the final mission. The romance subplots are most easily continued by having them as squad mates.



It is more work to create new squad mates than to use those whose backgrounds have already been created. As Mass Effect 3 is reusing much of Mass Effect 2's resources, the relative ease of using preexisting squad mates is further evidenced.



The Mass Effect 1&2 squad mates are also fan favorites. It would be a lie to say that Bioware does not listen to its fans, and there seems to be little reason to believe they somehow won't for Mass Effect 3. This is part of the reason why Bioware is so loved. The fans want to see the squad mates back, and some of us won't even buy the last game if we don't get closure.

[Sharn01]

Collider wrote...

Not having Mass Effect 2 squad mates return as squad mates severely diminishes the consequences of the suicide mission, if not make them negligible. The suicide mission is reduced to a gimmick if all of the squad mates are delegated to short cameos if not gone virtually altogether. We invested time into these squad mates, making sure they were loyal and survived the mission.

The romance subplots have not concluded yet and there is plenty of room for closure. As it stands, the romance thus far have invariably been talk a few times and then be intimate before the final mission. The romance subplots are most easily continued by having them as squad mates.

It is more work to create new squad mates than to use those whose backgrounds have already been created. As Mass Effect 3 is reusing much of Mass Effect 2's resources, the relative ease of using preexisting squad mates is further evidenced.

The Mass Effect 1&2 squad mates are also fan favorites. It would be a lie to say that Bioware does not listen to its fans, and there seems to be little reason to believe they somehow won't for Mass Effect 3. This is part of the reason why Bioware is so loved. The fans want to see the squad mates back, and some of us won't even buy the last game if we don't get closure.

I am not disagreeing with you at all, in fact this is what I hope will happen.  But with a few subtle changes to your post it would be identical to the argument's made by the ME1 player's in regard's to ME2 coming out and dismissing the ME1 LI and Wrex, though Wrex did have a fairly satisfying role. 

Bioware is showing a pattern of hitting the reset button on what your character accomplishes in past games as well, and not just with ME2.  Look at Ascension for Dragon Age, in my game as an example, the epilogue showed my Rogue, going off to fight the remaining darkspawn with his lover Leliana, his faithful dog and his good buddy Zevran, all of whom apparently dropped off the face of the planet in Ascension with out so much as a reference.

[Harcken]

No thanks, flying around to random space ports to gather some signed treaties culminating in a 30 minute final mission battle thingy with the Reapers isn't my ideal vision of ME3. However, I definitely think the recruiting part of ME3 is going to be minor, compared with its predecessor. I wouldn't be surprised if at the start of the game Bioware just lets you choose around 6-8 of your previous companions, then throw you a couple more as the game progresses.

[Ajspeed]

While i like the idea of this thread id like both not too much recruiting but a few more colourful characters

[Cutlass Jack]

Pocketgb wrote...

Also, does anyone else feel a bit of "unease" when looking at how much you're "cut-off" from things in DA: Awakenings? It seems like a giant step-back for Bioware in terms of character continuation. I'm praying to bajeezus that ME3 doesn't follow a similar route D:

Very much so. So much in fact that I cancelled my pre-order on Awakenings. Buying it would only encourage that sort of nonsense.

[Onyx Jaguar]

As long as they address not having a full compliment in a squad while making enough levels I am good with this.

[Edrick1976]

Liara and Ashley/Kaiden from ME1 the reason is because of love interests posibilities. I cant honestly say who would be free to stay with you from ME2. Thane would be spending his last days with his son. Miranda would be gone to protect her sister from the Illusive Man. Jack would be... well doing what Jack does best, kicking ass and becomming queen of the Crime/underworld. Grunt would be help keeping Wrex in charge and being used as a symble to unite their race.

Mordin is proably working a cure for Wrex. Tali would be on the Admeralty (spelling?) Board helping them get ready for war againsed the Reapers and trying to make peace with the geith. Legion would be doing the same with his people. Samara did say she would be willing to aid you if you called on her (if you are a paragon) but her code might make this a problem. Zaeed is an ass and I dont think sheppard will have the money to pay for his services. That leaves Jacob, Garrus and I believe the new person they will be putting as another DLC. Garrus and Jacob I could see sticking around now that I am thinking about it, I could see them staying if they survived. 

I really hope Tali, Garrus, Mordin, Liara, Ashley/Kaiden will be joinning you from ME1 and ME2, with maybe 2-4 new characters we have not seen OR characters that where apart of ME1 or ME2 but where just their in the background, like that Asari bartender on Illium, or Shiala from ME 1 (if you did not kill her).

You know after typping all of this out I dont even remmember what this post is about lol hope its on topic. Sorry for the bad grammer and spelling errors BTW

[DigitalMaster37]

Harcken wrote...

No thanks, flying around to random space ports to gather some signed treaties culminating in a 30 minute final mission battle thingy with the Reapers isn't my ideal vision of ME3. However, I definitely think the recruiting part of ME3 is going to be minor, compared with its predecessor. I wouldn't be surprised if at the start of the game Bioware just lets you choose around 6-8 of your previous companions, then throw you a couple more as the game progresses.

I dont mean a mock DAO campaign, but more in the lines of how Wrex is readying the Krogan, we can go and get the council to finally see through their foggy glasses and get with the program, but in a more involved way other than gathering treaties and such like DAO. I dont really know how they can make missions surrounding this idea, but anything other than recruiting another round of squadmates who we then have to spend precious "galaxy saving time" to play the "getting to know you" game. Dont get me wrong, I love ME2 and most of everything it has to offer, but for ME3, I think its time to move to actually being fully occupied saving the galaxy rather than a bunch of meet and greets.

Again though, I kinda think this is the direction they are indeed gonna go anyhow. I think BioWare knows what they are doing as I always say and I think we will see less recruiting and more saving the galaxy in this last in the trilogy.

Modifié par Deltaboy37-1, 20 février 2010 - 05:46 .

[Neccrid]

Yes.. Uniting is more so the way to go than more recruiting, ugh. We have our familiar faces. Let's not add a bunch more in the final chapter.



On a side note, How many Spectres are there exactly? Why haven't we heard about any others besides Saren, Nihilus, and Shepard really?

[The Angry One]

crimzontearz wrote...

she specifically says she did not

She LIES.

[Mox Ruuga]

I think there's no point in gathering up allies for some final battle. The Reapers are not the Dark Spawn, in their army, every Reaper is the equivalent of an "Arch Daemon". Only ne of them devastated both the defenses AND the reinforcements at the battle of Citadel. I can't see even the combined forces of all intelligent life in the Galaxy successfully defeating more than a score of them at best, and the price for that would be annihilation of the participating forces.

Nah, I may be more critical towards the writing team than most others here, but they wouldn't wussify the Reapers like that. They will be defeated in some other way. Perhaps something that still requires huge sacrifices? I've been thinking of the dying star and dark energy. Might be that it ends up used as a super weapon, and while the Reaper fleets are lured to sacrificial worlds, Shepard and co suicidally make the suns go supernova? Entire habitated systems end up being destroyed, but so do most of the Reapers. Of course, for maximum impact, Sol would potentially end up as one of the systems chosen. Paragon / Renegade choices galore follow. Would allowing Earth to be destroyed actually be a Paragon choice?

[Mox Ruuga]

Neccrid wrote...

On a side note, How many Spectres are there exactly? Why haven't we heard about any others besides Saren, Nihilus, and Shepard really?

The Alliance estimates were below a hundred.

There's also the asari Spectre mentioned in the Cerberus Daily News reports. She handled the hacking of financial data operation, where the perps ended up "shooting themselves"...  Mission accomplished.