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[ohsosweet]

I am sorry, I just think that anyone that thinks this is good needs to go on to Mass effect or The Witcher - both are far superior games, much better game play, better story lines, better graphics, better everything!  (oh apart from the issues you may have getting them to work in the first place - yeah that is something I guess!)
I have got so bored with this one - I am even replaying The Witcher rather than continue with playing it!  I may pursue it every now and then - it depends on how bored I get with life..... Oh and despite previous posts opinions - for goodness why on earth is this an 18???  Has anyone seen inside the 'SUN' newspaper that is available to all children in the households or read its language??  Or even watched a 12 movie??? 15??? 18 no - grow up sensors.

[Chillwill]

I always wondered, why people bothered staying on forums of games they don't like.

[knittzu]

Many of us who love this game have, in fact, played Mass Effect and Neverwinter Nights and The Witcher. I love all of those games plus most everything else BioWare has done, but Dragon Age: Origins is my favorite. YM, of course, MV.



This game is rated 18 and up because of the sex and violence. Just like movies are often rated "R" due to sex and violence... regardless of what is featured in various tabloids.

[Grimmwor Runeforger]

Isn't anyone else finding this far to similar to Neverwinter Nights 2

No.  Not at all.  Not even remotely.

Modifié par Grimmwor Runeforger, 19 février 2010 - 10:54 .

[Eurypterid]

Sure, there are similarities to NWN2: fantasy setting, RPG style story and game, party-based play, etc.



Keep in mind opinion on what is good and what isn't are completely subjective though. I've played NWN2, The Witcher, and the ME games. I liked them all. I like Dragon Age as well. All have their good and bad points. My opinion is different than yours though, in that I don't think the others are far superior. *shrug* Opinions differ. Not exactly sure what your post was trying to accomplish though.

[carlosjuero]

To the OP: Theres a thing called opinion. I have noted and rejected yours as you reject the idea that anyone could possibly like this game just because you do not.



The similarities to NWN stop at it being a party based RPG in a fantasy world. If this is 'just like' NWN then so is any other Party Based 3rd Person Top Down/Third Person RPG.

[maxernst]

Having played NWN2 (not mass effect or Witcher)...well, as a single player game, I consider DA:O much better, mostly because of its companion characters and more convincing setting.



Now, when you consider multiplayer NWN2 becomes a much more impressive game if you can get on a good server, but that's another story.

[Emma-Lath]

If you don't like the game than why are on this forum, and why are you complaining about it to people who do like this game. All you are doing is trolling, which is pointless and annoying.



If you like mass effect and the wicker so much then go post on those forums.

[Maria Caliban]

Chillwill wrote...

I always wondered, why people bothered staying on forums of games they don't like.

1. The original poster likes Mass Effect, and Dragon Age shares a forum with that game.

2. I assume they post on this forum for the same reason people who like the game do: to give their opinion. Most people enjoy giving their opinion.

[Spitz6860]

i'm surprised that nobody mentioned combat similarities.

[Maria Caliban]

lala_lover wrote...

If you don't like the game than why are on this forum...

To give their opinion.

All you are doing is trolling, which is pointless and annoying.

Your reasoning seems to be that posting a negative opinion is trolling. By that definition, you are trolling.

If you like mass effect and the wicker so much then go post on those forums.

Why do you assume that they haven't done just that? It's not like you can only post on one forum; I'm registered with over a dozen.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 19 février 2010 - 11:22 .

[Stuffy38]

@ OP:

I found NWN2 very frustrating to play, I think mainly because it was an interface nightmare. The story was alright but really it can't hold a candle to DA:O. As far as Mass Effect 2 goes, I've completed it a couple of times, but I have a couple of Shepherds sitting in limbo part way through. Realistically I don't think I'll complete those run throughs any time soon.

Dragon Age on the other hand, well I'm still occasionally playing it for a few hours here and there.

Great thing about opinions, your own is never wrong

[ShinsFortress]

"I may pursue it every now and then - it depends on how bored I get with life..... "



Oh, how magnanimous of you.

[Loerwyn]

Having completed both Dragon Age and Neverwinter Nights 2, I will respectfully disagree. Strongly.

Dragon Age: Origins is not tied to the heavy (and slightly clumsy) ruleset of 3.5ed D&D w/ Forgotten Realms campaign module.

If you think The Witcher and Mass Effect have better graphics, then you're doing something wrong. Dragon Age's are a lot cleaner than Mass Effect's (also a lot smoother) and The Witcher's aren't bad but they're not as detailed as Dragon Age's. I'll agree that Dragon Age does have a problem with the models used for Dwarven Females at least (possibly some other races/genders), but otherwise it's fine.

Dragon Age has superior voice acting to the relatively poor voices in The Witcher (even the Enhanced Edition). Geralt, for example, has a very wooden VA.

Dragon Age and Neverwinter Nights 2 both use similar engines (both engines were made by BioWare and I think they're descendants of the BG engine), utilise companions and are in the darker ends of Fantasy but I think that's where the similarities end. The Witcher also uses a BioWare engine and as such it has a familiar feel to it. Mass Effect? Non-comparable. It's a different kind of game!

As for the rating of the game? Aside from the innuendo-laden cutscene, the characters covered in blood and the swearing (not to mention dark themes of the game), I think it's fitting. It also covers BioWare in regards to nude PC mods. Take the issue up with the BBFC, it was not the decision of BioWare nor EA. The Sun, by the way, only shows bare breasts - it is not adult material at all. Don't forget that books and printed media aren't rated (PEGI applies to games, BBFC to games and films - Gaming magazines are rated due to the discs they often come with), so your point doesn't make much sense.



You're entitled to your opinion, of course, but I suggest that if you're going to make claims that you back them up with some form of evidence/reasoning instead of "It's just better!".

[RangerSG]

I liked The Witcher. I liked Mask of the Betrayer. But I'd say DA is preferable on every level to both. As for Mass Effect, aside from the fact the PC port was such a debacle that I couldn't play it...

[CybAnt1]

Isn't anyone else finding this far to similar to Neverwinter Nights 2
No.  Not at all.  Not even remotely.

Biggest diff. for me:

NWN was designed for multiplayer, with single player very much as an afterthought. 
NWN2 is slowly moving toward single player party-based friendliness, but only recently arrived at a very close destination with the Storm of Zehir campaign. (IMHO, still not completely there yet.) 

DA:O has no multiplayer (although of course many want it). It's all single player. 

The similarity is both have a Toolset. But what that means for me, really, is what I've always wanted: a single player game with lots of mods! 

Hopefully, even in the future, as people master it, complete user-made campaigns/modules/settings ... for the single player. 

[Ima Nutcracker]

I tried really hard to like Witcher but just never did. For one thing, the dialog was utterly confusing most of the time and I constantly had to consult my journal to see what I was supposed to be doing. I often did not know why I was supposed to be doing something, but I did it anyway becuase my journal said I was supposed to. I understand some others really liked it, though.



I like NWN2 a great deal, however, and do see many similarities between it and DAO. I suppose I disagree with CybAnt1, though, as I think that NWN2 is intended to be a single player game (and we need all good the single-player games we can get).

[Haryosto]

Well...the best rpg i have played is torment..but nevertheless...origins is a great game...(i like mass effect more) but still..is amazing! On the other hand...neverwinter nights was the only game by bioware i was bored a little...(but i am sure that one reason for that was the adnd 3rd edition gameplay which sucks in comparison with adnd 2nd edition(aka baldurs gate)).

[Wyndham711]

Witcher was interesting, NWN2 was off-putting, Dragon Age was a complete masterpiece.

[AlanC9]

Well, at least the OP likes The Witcher.

Nothing wrong with being like NWN2. The OC wasn't great (though MotB was), but it was pretty good.

[CalJones]

I played NWN2 directly before DA:O. It's similar in that both are fantasy RPGs. Otherwise, no. (Incidentally I did enjoy NWN2 - OC and MotB. More than I expected, too).

[wanderon]

I played NWN2 from the day it was released until the day I got DA:O They are both my favorite type of game - party based CRPG - one based on D&D the other is not - both great games.



I also purchased the Witcher - didn't care for it much never got to chap 2 as I recall - had no real interest in mass effect - I prefer medieval fantasy to sci-fi.



Also played all the IE games in fact I was still playing BG2 until I got NWN2 liked all those games as well - again all party based CRPGs.

[AmstradHero]

Having played a lot of and modded for both NWN2 and DA:O, I can quite happily say that I don't feel there's a lot of similarities between them, apart from what other people have said - They're both fantasy RPGs. I enjoyed both, although NWN2's OC was a bit average, whereas Mask of the Betrayer was quite brilliant.



DA:O is an excellent game with lots of choices, interesting characters and a decent plot. I love Mass Effect 1 and 2 as well.



I found the Witcher to be kind of like WoW, except without the multiplayer aspect, which means it's... oh, wait... a tedious grind fest.



You're entitled to your opinion, but I don't share it. I'm not sure of the point of your post... and actually, to be honest, I'm not sure why I even bother typing out a reply. The great thing about the world is that there's lots of people who all have different opinions, and everyone's opinion is equally valid.

[Qkrch]

I'm going with the OP's opinion.



I think that NWN2 and DA:O are far more similar than people thinks, the main difference is that NWN2 (and the witcher) were released with 3 years of distance regarding DA, and for me those 3 years haven't been a big deal of changes.



The differences are obvious, one is D&D and DA don't, one is very focused to single player... etc etc. But really, I was expecting DA to have major changes in respect to NWN2 but there aren't (note that i'm talking about the engine, not the gameplay, storyline...), in fact I believe that a strong group of modders can do DA:O with their NWN2 toolsets, wasting a lot of time, but perfectly doable.



Even in terms of modding I think DA is more limited than nwn2 and the same problems persist in both games (complicated toolset, plain walmeshes, lack of z axis) and even adding impossibility of making interface.



So basically, yes, DA can be more exciting, with a better plot, character design, funnier, wow like strategy... but technically I haven't found any real differences with two videogames (nwn2 and TW) that were released 3 years ago.



PS: hate to see people saying witcher's VO is bad, the game was originally written in polish... blame Atari US cause my spanish VO is wonderful.