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Keep it Secret! Keep it Safe! (Andraste's Ashes)


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#26
Thor Rand Al

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Allerleihrau wrote...

My first character let Genitivi live and return home, but warned him about the consequences. A warning that didn't seem to impress him in the slightest, because in my epilogue I read all about the Chantry's exploitation of the discovery and my (unhardened) Leliana was leading an expedition there.

That means from now on, Genitivi gets a knife in his head (and I'm a bit ashamed to admit it, but this cutscene always makes me laugh, perhaps there is something wrong with me) and Leliana undergoes her hardening (she's better of investigating the Darkspawn I think).



You can do this without killing him. Just send him home, do your quest but don't go back n report anything to him in his home in Denerim.  Lel will still say she's going to do the chantry's expedition but the epilogue card at the end says that the Urn was never found :) unless you like to kill Genitivi lol

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SarEnyaDor

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Oh, I like Brother Genitivi - here he is laying on the floor bleeding and he has the nerve to sass me, I respect that.

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Allerleihrau wrote...

DaerogTheDhampir wrote...

*snip*
(although, it would be best if the ashes just get guarded and not used except in dire circumstances).


Yes, but who decides what qualifies as "dire circumstances"? The severity of the illness that needs to be cured? Or the status of the person who needs to be cured?


Whenever the king gets a tummy ache. I personally don't care about the power of the ashes, other than healing the good ol' Arl of Redcliffe, but my point was that people should know the location of their savior's tomb. Whatever happens to it, happens, good or ill, but it's better than having it be completely forgotten and unnoticed. Just an opinion of course...

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A Golden Dragon wrote...

They do, if you kill the Dragon.


Some do. Many pilgrims come to the mountain, but that doesn't mean all of them get to the ashes.

bythebarricades wrote...

I am leaning towards the Maker being real now. Everytime I do the Gauntlet, it's just like "Then how is this here if he isn't!?"


It's not the ashes, it's the mountain.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 20 février 2010 - 09:55 .


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Hmmm... It should also be noted that if you DO let Genitive spread the word, but leave the Dragon alive, the Ashes still disappear. The Dragon destroys the Temple and departs. The Chantry makes an excavation at the site, and finds nothing.



Speculations on this: The Dragon took them; A Secret Cult took them; the Maker Judged mortals laking and removed them; They Never were there to begin with.



Personally, I wonder what Leliana does when she gets to the Mountaintop and finds that the Ashes aren't there anymore...

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errant_knight wrote...

I suggest that it's not a good idea--Alistair has a pretty funny response to that, but I'm not going to kill a nice old man just for being a typical scholar and being a little naive. I don't kill the dragon, either. If the chantry behaves with a lack of good sense and starts bringing tours through, it's not my fault.


That's exactly how I approached it as well.  I don't remember Alistair's response, though...maybe I had a slightly different conversation line?  He was definitely with me at the gauntlet, so he must have been there.

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I once told Genitivi to get lost, and didn't visit him. Thankfully, they vanished. I murder knifed him once. That was funny. Alistair didn't like it, but I gave him an action figure in camp, and he forgot all about it.



Knight of Phoenix has a good point: Holy shrines are big business. I usually tell Genitivi that it's on him if bad things happen, but he doesn't care.



I like Zevran's suggestion: charge admission. Maybe open up a tacky souveneir booth and sell guide booklets. The dragon always dies, though. That much loot and XP are simply too much to pass up on, and I felt gyped when I killed Flemeth and got a lousy book and more tacky robes out of the deal. If Flemeth was better loaded up, the dragon might have lived.



Shame on Bioware. I really wanted to leave the pretty dragon alone to eat the religious folk, but they forced my hand. Poor dragon.

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My City Elf was disappointed she didn't get to ask for the concession rights. "Andraste's Ashes pre-packaged in a convenient salt shaker", "Mother Andraste's Sure Fire Quick Cure", Souvenir maps, Action figures, Gauntlet guides, a sketch artist positioned by the ashes to capture the pilgrims expressions on canvas, an elf could make a fortune with trinkets alone.

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Think about it.if you discovered Jesus corpse.That could create war for the right to own the corpse.

Modifié par Suprez30, 21 février 2010 - 03:35 .


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Maria Caliban

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Suprez30 wrote...

Think about it.if you discovered Jesus corpse.That could create war for the right to own the corpse.


In a world where the only Christian denomination was the Catholic Church and a sect that didn't believe Jesus was anything other than a normal dude, I'd think the potential for war would be far less.

As Ferelden is already a Chantry nation, I don't see war as being likely.

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Ya, I don't see war over the temple happening. The Chantry would care, but the Imperial Chantry may not care at all and just say: Oh, that's nice, dealing with the Qunari now...