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[PickledGear]

I have several questions and I want your guys' opinions/answers on them.

We all have our own origin stories but in the end many of us chose Leliana as our love. This love seems pure just as Wynne states it to be after talking to her about you and Leliana's relationship.

1st thing is if you allowed Marjolaine to live and return to Orlais, she knows about your relationship between the warden and Leliana now. Years later Marjolaine still might want to carry out her plan, And that could be even assassinating or capturing the warden to force Leliana never to tell or to give herself up once more.

Do you think Marjolaine could do that?

2nd question is this, no matter what Leliana will stay with you on what you choose at the end if you love her, Although they don't even hint it, would Leliana and the Warden (male) marry? Or is Leliana the type where she wishes to stay lovers but not become a wife?

3rd question and final, for the human noble side of the story seeing as the male origin story has you as Teyrn of Highever once your family members leave for ostagar, with the tragedy of Fergus' family being killed by Howe in some way Fergus could take his life (he seems to be the type not to remarry)

Making you the Teyrn once more, and relating with the 2nd question again if you were made the Teyrn once more (that is if you accepted the title) and you had or were planning to marry Leliana I wonder if she would accept being Teyrna?

[mousestalker]

1. Yes.

2. If you do not harden her she would likely prefer to get married. Mostly because unhardened she wants to be conventional.

3. She might, but you will never be Teyrn. You gave up your rights to it when you joined the Grey Wardens.

[PickledGear]

3. Ah yes, totally forgot about that thanks for the clarification on that.

[Cuddlezarro]

3. She might, but you will never be Teyrn. You gave up your rights to it when you joined the Grey Wardens.

you can become Teyrn of Gwaren actually and thats given to you *after* you became a grey warden

Modifié par Cuddlezarro, 20 février 2010 - 03:55 .

[mousestalker]

Cuddlezarro wrote...

3. She might, but you will never be Teyrn. You gave up your rights to it when you joined the Grey Wardens.

you can become Teyrn of Gwaren actually

I didn't know that. Is that one of the rewards offered at the end? Which boon do you ask for from whom to get it?

{something new to try!)

[Gilsa]

1. I never saw an upside to sparing Marjolaine. Her walking away from Leliana in Denerim is too easy. Better safe than sorry.

2. Considering that an unhardened Leliana commits suicide to be with the PC if you do the Ultimate Sacrifice, yeah, I'd say she's definitely the marrying kind.

3. Dunno.

Edit: mousestalker, ask for titles and riches when the king/queen asks you what boon you want.

Modifié par Gilsa, 20 février 2010 - 03:59 .

[Cuddlezarro]

ask for the title and riches reward at the end



Anora/Alistair will name you Teyrn(a) of Gwaren and give you Loghains fortune



this option isnt limited to nobility either my MAGE became Teryna of Gwaren I bet that pissed the chantry off alot

[Creature 1]

SPARTAN 089-Gary wrote...
1st thing is if you allowed Marjolaine to live and return to Orlais, she knows about your relationship between the warden and Leliana now. Years later Marjolaine still might want to carry out her plan, And that could be even assassinating or capturing the warden to force Leliana never to tell or to give herself up once more.

Do you think Marjolaine could do that?

She betrayed your girlfriend so she was captured, tortured, and raped.  Why are you letting her live?

[mousestalker]

Cuddlezarro wrote...

ask for the title and riches reward at the end

Anora/Alistair will name you Teyrn(a) of Gwaren and give you Loghains fortune

this option isnt limited to nobility either my MAGE became Teryna of Gwaren I bet that pissed the chantry off alot

Well, as Grey Warden you are unlikely to reproduce so they may take the long view. It depends if you get to name your heir. The title may revert to the crown upon your death. Kings are sneaky like that.

[Cuddlezarro]

mousestalker wrote...

Cuddlezarro wrote...

ask for the title and riches reward at the end

Anora/Alistair will name you Teyrn(a) of Gwaren and give you Loghains fortune

this option isnt limited to nobility either my MAGE became Teryna of Gwaren I bet that pissed the chantry off alot

Well, as Grey Warden you are unlikely to reproduce so they may take the long view. It depends if you get to name your heir. The title may revert to the crown upon your death. Kings are sneaky like that.

its still possible though your not completely sterile (you get morrigan preggers if you sleep with her even if you dont do the ritual)

also if your a male dwarf noble you can get a noble hunter preggers in the origin story

Modifié par Cuddlezarro, 20 février 2010 - 04:31 .

[mousestalker]

Cuddlezarro wrote...

mousestalker wrote...

Cuddlezarro wrote...

ask for the title and riches reward at the end

Anora/Alistair will name you Teyrn(a) of Gwaren and give you Loghains fortune

this option isnt limited to nobility either my MAGE became Teryna of Gwaren I bet that pissed the chantry off alot

Well, as Grey Warden you are unlikely to reproduce so they may take the long view. It depends if you get to name your heir. The title may revert to the crown upon your death. Kings are sneaky like that.

its still possible though your not completely sterile (you get morrigan preggers if you sleep with her even if you dont do the ritual)

also if your a male dwarf noble you can get a noble hunter preggers in the origin story

The first comes about through a dark magic ritual (but I'll concede the possibility)

The second happens because you had your night o' fun before you became a Grey Warden.

[Cuddlezarro]

The first comes about through a dark magic ritual (but I'll concede the possibility)

read what i said again



if you slept with her at any point in the game and REFUSED to do the dark ritual with her she will get the "pregnant" ending slide

[Stuffy38]

1. No. Any one of my Wardens could snap Marjolaine's neck like a twig.
2. I'd pop the question with Leliana, sure.
3. Technically you are a Grey Warden, not Tyern. However Alistair quit to become king so there's no reason why you should not be able to do the same thing. That's going on the hypothetical idea that Fergus would off himself, which I think is about as likely as Oghren farting peppermint.

Modifié par Stuffy38, 20 février 2010 - 04:46 .

[PickledGear]

In some way, I feel the warden and Leliana would do a quest of some sort if they wanted a child, the magi or the chantry could have something or even blood magic.

[Dave of Canada]

SPARTAN 089-Gary wrote...

In some way, I feel the warden and Leliana would do a quest of some sort if they wanted a child, the magi or the chantry could have something or even blood magic.

Female players would be excluded though.

[PickledGear]

theres always adoption lol

[Funny_chan]

SPARTAN 089-Gary wrote...

In some way, I feel the warden and Leliana would do a quest of some sort if they wanted a child, the magi or the chantry could have something or even blood magic.

Actually, I always considered the possibility of the warden being able to have a child if you leave the Urn of Sacred Ashes intact. The same way that the ashes cured Arl Eamon, they could cure the wardens inability to have children.

[PickledGear]

You never know, maybe the reasoning Leliana may not be in Awakening for players who chose her (hardened) is shes settling down with the new family? But I highly doubt she would allow her love to leave without her unless there was a child maybe.

[sylvanaerie]

hmm I never take it as an inability to have children (since obviously it does happen) more as an "undesirability" to have children with the taint inflicting who knows what deformities on the babe. Man that must be one scary child Morrigan is gonna spawn...



1. Yes, in a heartbeat. I am surprised in fact that she just walks out considering what she has hidden in the room.



2. Hardened or unhardened she probably would (more likely if she is unhardened though I think)



3. Won't really happen as Fergus is still alive and doesn't seem the suicide type. However its a viable question if you talked to Dairren in the Origin. He says most people feel that the PC would be a more likely candidate to be made Teryn over his/her brother. I get the feeling Fergus is more the lets go to war type and PC is more the responsible one who has to shoulder the drudge work of day to day Keep management.

[Maria Caliban]

Creature 1 wrote...

She betrayed your girlfriend so she was captured, tortured, and raped.  Why are you letting her live?

When Leliana talks about Marjolaine, I don't hear rage, but a bittersweet affection. Even though Marjolaine did something unforgivable to her, I believe Leliana still loves and cares for her. She might understand intellectually ‘this is best,’ but emotionally, I think watching Marjolaine being hacked to bits would not be good for her.

[PickledGear]

Exactly, I chose to spare Marjolaine just for the fact that I did not sense a bit of revenge in her words when she told the stories to me. The fact she was comforted afterwards by the warden for telling her (my way anyways) that evil people do not strive to be good, shows that although a part of her wanted revenge another large part didn't, and that she would be scarred from her long friend being killed by her "love" is a bad thing.



In most ways we all will have to come up with our own stories and thoughts on how Leliana and the warden lives their lives which is what Bioware wanted. So for me, my warden, after a couple of years traveling through the free marches and Antiva with Leliana decides to propose to Leliana. Going along with her Maker beliefs, she has another vision in which she will bare a child, that of the warden.



So they settle down (in ferelden or in Orlais whatever she wants) and after marrying they have a child. This is my story and hope for them, but that might change after I listen to her short cameo in Awakening.