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[Pocketgb]

He's awesome to talk to, shame he's 2h.

[anjii21]

Sten is awsome, I use him a lot and find as a zerker he pawns... I do STR and CON and yes he has some interesting dialogue while wandering Ferelden and below, I personally like his conversations with shale, stupid squishy mortals, in my eyes-Sten=Candorues / Shale=HK47

[Gecon]

Anyone found a fix for him yet ?



He missed 4 attribute points and one specialization point (at level 7 - he gets one with level 14, though).



Tad annoying to be honest.

[Basil_Abdef]

Supposedly, Sten doesn't fit any of the specializations lore wise, but that's hardly a justification for permanently gimping him. He should at least have some sort of special ability to make up for it all.

[RamsenC]

Gecon wrote...

Anyone found a fix for him yet ?

He missed 4 attribute points and one specialization point (at level 7 - he gets one with level 14, though).

Tad annoying to be honest.

Pretty much the reason I will never use him. 

[Brako Shepard]

Although the game is great to play, I have never played a game before where I have hated so many of the characters on my team.



But the dog and Shale are firm favourites, some of the comments and the chicken scene had me in stitches. All the rest are whiny or just ignorant tools.

[Korva]

This a NON-SPOILER forum, folks. Putting a spoiler warning into your post doesn't make it okay.

Sten is ... okay, I guess. A bit too hard to crack, I don't like it when I feel interaction with an NPC is all one-sided with my character the active/interested and the other the utterly passive/disinterested party. Sadly, DA falls squarely into that old trap again except with Wynne, and Sten makes you "work" extra hard. It does suit him, no doubt, but it is a tad tiresome. Still, I may fit him into one of my "alts'" playthroughs once I can muster the energy to restart.

What specialization would you consider the most IC for him? I'm leaning towards Champion. Can't picture him as a Berserker or Reaver at all. Templar, maybe, but Champion strikes me as the most fitting for his background.

[Mary Kirby]

scootermcgaffin wrote...
As far as I've experienced, Sten doesn't get a point at level seven at all.

Yeah, this is a bug.  He was supposed to get a point at level 7 and didn't because all the other followers come with that point already. 

[The Angry One]

So was he supposed to be a blank slate then? Or have a spec?

Personally I would've pegged him as a Berserker given his tendency to panick and slaughter entire families in a blind rage...

[Mary Kirby]

The Angry One wrote...

Personally I would've pegged him as a Berserker given his tendency to panick and slaughter entire families in a blind rage...

If that's how we worked out specializations, then Loghain's would have to have been "Strategic Retreater," the PC and Alistair would automatically earn, "Rescued by Crazy Old Ladies" specialization after Ostagar, and Oghren's would have been, "Divorcee."

[The Angry One]

Hey I could see a use for Strategic Retreater, especially when a bloody fireball knocks half my party out of nowhere.

[Statulos]

David Gaider wrote...

I will say that Sten is someone who you're only going to learn a limited amount about if you don't actually take him with you in the active party. Unlike other party members, he doesn't divulge a lot of information about the Qunari when asked directly. What happens instead is that, while adventuring around the world, he will comment on things he sees and mention certain things when bantering with other party members -- and THEN you can ask him about those things later, but only then.

This doesn't mean you can't talk to him about other things, but this is the only way you're going to get him to talk about the Qunari specifically.

OK; so here´s the question Mr. Gaider:

Sten has mentioned a lot of things with my other companions while playing such as his remarks to Morrigan about her flirting to him; Leliana calling him "softie", the growling between him and the dog, his definition about the urn as a "trashcan"... And I never got the chance to ask him about any topic of those when I talk to him in camp or somewhere else.

Is this bugged or the way it is supposed to be? I mean, I would looooove to get to know his real name after Zev comments about Sten being a rank, not a person´s name (or otherwise in the dream part of the Fade). Of course I´d expect him to tell me a simple "no" followed by "I will not tell that even to the Arishok" or something like that, but in the end, it is an aswer, not the one I wanted, but an answer.

Modifié par Statulos, 09 décembre 2009 - 10:20 .

[Dunhart]

Mary Kirby wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Personally I would've pegged him as a Berserker given his tendency to panick and slaughter entire families in a blind rage...

If that's how we worked out specializations, then Loghain's would have to have been "Strategic Retreater," the PC and Alistair would automatically earn, "Rescued by Crazy Old Ladies" specialization after Ostagar, and Oghren's would have been, "Divorcee."

Delicious Bioware burn, I must sample some of this.

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Sten doesn't really agree with my usual playstyle at all. He's basically a male version of Morrigan, constantly nagging at the choices I make and trying to pick away at the warm, fuzzy feeling I get for doing good things. That's why he usually gets to stay at camp and watch pretty paintings.

[Mary Kirby]

Statulos wrote...

OK; so here´s the question Mr. Gaider:

Sten has mentioned a lot of things with my other companions while playing such as his remarks to Morrigan about her flirting to him; Leliana calling him "softie", the growling between him and the dog, his definition about the urn as a "trashcan"... And I never got the chance to ask him about any topic of those when I talk to him in camp or somewhere else.

Is this bugged or the way it is supposed to be?

There are specific comments he makes that open up new dialogue with Sten.  Usually, they aren't banters with another NPC, they're just single remarks he makes as you're wandering around.

Since this is the spoiler forum:

One of them always occurs near a chantry.
One of them is in the Brecilian Forest.
One of them is in the Denerim market (it's extremely tricky to get this one, actually. )
One of them is at the Circle Tower.

[The Angry One]

The difference with Sten and Morrigan is you can usually persuade Sten to see things your way, to which you'll at least get a "mrmhrm.. fine ifyousayso.." response whereas Morrigan is always "saving kittens is bad! I disapprove -50!" no matter what.

[Mikka-chan]

Take Sten out with Zev. After a few banters, Zev questions Sten about having once met a Quanari in Antiva, which Sten disputes. You then get to ask Sten I believe two questions about it (the main, then a follow-up): it might be three. Same as if you take him to the Mage Tower lobby or if you take him to the Chantry in Redcliffe. They're in the 'I want to talk about something you said' category.

I think there's one more I found, but I can't remember what it was. I have to find if there are any more... I want to find all the Sten triggers. I'm quite fond of him, really. Personality-wise, he may be my favorite character. However, as said, the missing specialization (and I believe missing attribute points) make him one of the worst characters gameplay-wise in the game... and as Oghran is set up to be the same, there's really no reason to take him instead of the dwarf save for liking his personality. That's not a bad thing, but I wish it was a bit more even.

[Bhatair]

Sten is by far my favorite character in this game. I admit that no matter what type of character I'm playing I always have him join my crew and work on his approval. My latest playthrough is actually the first one where I haven't taken him with me though =/ I miss his banter heh.

[Statulos]

OK; seems like I´ll have to play the whole game again, hi hi. Thanks to give me an excuse to do it.

On the other hand, Sten is among my faves; to me he´s like the embodiment of the Philosopher pointed out by Plato: he has seen the world as it is, he has seen the light of the ideas and he´s unable to understand why the rest of the beings are so blind.

As DLC propposal, I´d love new specializations for every cathegory, stuff like "marskman" for rogue, or Beereshad for warrior (a basicaly opposite class to berserker).

Modifié par Statulos, 09 décembre 2009 - 10:37 .

[OneBadAssMother]

Sten's serious yet completely unexpected humor at times makes me worthwhile. Oghren is still more funny though in my opinion. I still don't see how people don't know how to use 2handers though...

[tmp7704]

Mary Kirby wrote...

One of them is in the Denerim market (it's extremely tricky to get this one, actually. )

Gah now i'm curious. What is this one about? I just wonder if i got it... i didn't take Sten to the tower so probably missed out on whatever he says there. Though we did have some discussion about the magic and its uses so wonder if maybe i got that one somehow too...

[SinYang]

Bhatair wrote...

Sten is by far my favorite character in this game. I admit that no matter what type of character I'm playing I always have him join my crew and work on his approval. My latest playthrough is actually the first one where I haven't taken him with me though =/ I miss his banter heh.

Same here, I cant believe how I misjudged him so quickly, first time thru Lothering..

He just looked like some crazy murder in a cage, books n covers I acually didnt know he was an NPC either..
Because I brought DA on a whim... it didnt sound like my kind of game, when i read the old forums few years back, thus i didnt keep up to date on information/spoilers etc^
Im so glad, i was completely wrong, heh for record I brought BG1 this way too (on a whim). which led to BG2, NWN1.

Back to Sten, hes my preference for a tank everytime now.. not only because I seem to mold with him, gaining 80% approval very early game, his whole warrior aspect is very interesting. Amusing banters with Leliana/Morrigan after he warms up.

I hate to leave him behind for Circle tower quest tho.. no room with wynn locked 

[Evilsod]

Mary Kirby wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Personally I would've pegged him as a Berserker given his tendency to panick and slaughter entire families in a blind rage...

If that's how we worked out specializations, then Loghain's would have to have been "Strategic Retreater," the PC and Alistair would automatically earn, "Rescued by Crazy Old Ladies" specialization after Ostagar, and Oghren's would have been, "Divorcee."

Really? I would've labelled Oghren as a "Pervert" specialisation.

Hell he just said "Hot" and gained 2 rep when i kissed Bella after the Redcliffe battle

I knew Sten was missing a Spec point but... missing 4 attributes i didn't realise. Surely its a pretty simple fix though? Just give him a Spec point by default?

[Korva]

Spoilers allowed now? Sweet.



I never used Sten but I did drag various companion combos across various banter triggers and that unlocked the option to talk to him about magic/mages (after one of his banters with Wynne) and the Tal Vashoth (spelling?, from a Zevran banter). I suppose the one you can get with Wynne is the same that would be triggered at the Tower?



(Regarding conversation triggers: do they stop working for a given companion combo after a few times? I never got the sex talk between Sten and Morrigan for example, nor Leliana calling him a softie.)