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[sylvanaerie]

I guess I am fine with not having the DLC.  And even the lack of romantic partners in the game as long as they address the romance and don't just sweep it under a rug and pretend its non existant.  People don't always stay together even if they ARE still in a relationship.  (Just ask any trucker's wife like me or military spouse).  There is just too much to do still in Thedas to fix whats wrong.

What would be fun is can you still flirt with NPCs? ya you are supposed to be in a committed relationship but some of the silly little flirtations in DA:O really added a lot for me.  And while I am married and would NEVER cheat on my hubby, I am by nature a very flirty person.  (just an ole southern belle here, its second nature for me).

I would hate to think from start to finish this was just another stock "beat em up and go home after" kind of story, removing a LOT of the emotional investment for me.

[KnightofPhoenix]

While flirting was fun, we have to remember our role in Awakening. It's being a Grey Warden commander, with the big responsability of rebuilding the Wardens in Ferelden. So does that kind of character really have time to flirt with useless peasants?

But I digress. Hopefully Bio could add a little bit of flirting in the dialogue. But it doesn't have to go overboard.

[sylvanaerie]

hehe with the right persuasion check you could get Bann Teagan to flirt with you in the middle of Redcliffe under siege. Admittedly not the most optimum time but i takes my giggles where I can get them.

[Caozen]

It'd be quite unlike Bioware not to include SOMETHING pertaining to sex.

[KnightofPhoenix]

bythebarricades wrote...

Was defeating the first Blight in 400 years a smaller responsibility then? Seems we had plenty of time to fool around while that was going on.

You didn't have an organisation to manage or build, nor an army to organise until after the landsmeet. I am not saying that your job in Awakening is more important. but it is of a different nature. You are now the head of an order that you seek to rebuild. And you are the head of a keep, presumably with an army.
That's a different kind of responsability that wouldn't really give you the time to fool around.  

[Caraine]

DA:Origins is the first game I've played that allowed decent affectable character interaction. It *made* the game for me. I loved the fact that this was more than 'find that artifact', 'kill that monster'. It wasn't just the romantic aspect, it was the interpersonal aspect. I'd like to see it expanded actually as I found some of the dialogue choices / responses too confining. *raise hand if you'd have liked to be able to choose 'smack chosen companion upside da head for being an idiot' *

[NightmarezAbound]

Yes, but all work and no play makes a Warden Commander very, VERY grumpy indeed!

I mean a little stress relief is needed, when in such a high pressure situation. Maybe why all sexual tension in Origins.

Nothing like death to make you feel alive.

[KnightofPhoenix]

You didn't get my point. All of what you listed is not the same as what you are doing in Awakening. You are actually leading and building an order now. In Origins, you didn't have to manage and lead anyone except your own party, until after the landsmeet. You are like Duncan now. Did Duncan have time to fool around?

And it's not like Bioware is removing dialogues or character development. It just doesn't really have to be romance. Sure, it's a sad ommission. But it is not game breaking for me. Not in the slightest. Because it makes sense to me. As a commander, I find it hard to imagine myself fooling around.

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 20 février 2010 - 04:43 .

[_Aine_]

Well, I`d rather they say I was too busy than have them say that the stress of the position had just made me too fugly for any companion to think I was flirtable



And KnightofPhoenix...about Duncan.... My human noble females are grumbling that was indeed true. Duncan refused to romance them. *stomps off and slams the door*

[KnightofPhoenix]

bythebarricades wrote...

You're missing my point. All of Origins is spent recruiting an army. You are working night and day to put together a very unlikely alliance in enough time to stop the Darkspawn Horde before it covers all the land. And yet, romance was possible with up to four characters (three on any given playthrough). It's invalid to say there's just no time in Awakenings because in a far more dire situation (the Blight) there was plenty of time to give gifts and romance party members.

Uuggh, I hate repeating myself. You recruited an army. You didn't manage it. You didn't lead it. You didn't organise it. Until after the landsmeet. Difference. Who organised the dwarven army? Harrowmont / Bhelen. Who organised the elves / werewolves? Zathrian / his apprentice / The Lady. Who organised the Redcliff army? Eammon. Who organised the Templars / Mages? Gregoir / Irving.
You didn't do any of that. You were a figurehead. A banner that rallied all of them to your cause. But you didn't actually manage any of the armies. And the only semblance of control you exerted was after the landsmeet. In Awakening on the otherhand, you are the Commander of the Grey Wardens. You are charged with rebuilding an order. You are charged with leading and managing this new order. And you are charged to rule over Vigil's Keep and over Amaranthyne.
That's an entirely different situation all together. I am not saying that the situation is more dire. I am saying that the nature of your responsability is vastly different. You are not an adventurer. You are a Commander.

bythebarricades wrote...
 It's just silly to sit there and say "Well, you're a commander now, you don't have time" when in Origins you can say "You're a commander now, you do have time."

No, you are not a commander in Origins, until after the landsmeet.

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 20 février 2010 - 05:04 .

[KnightofPhoenix]

shantisands wrote...
And KnightofPhoenix...about Duncan.... My human noble females are grumbling that was indeed true. Duncan refused to romance them. *stomps off and slams the door*

[KnightofPhoenix]

bythebarricades wrote...

And as you travel throughout Ferelden, before the Landsmeet, who do you encounter? Your army traveling to meet you. Even Arl Eamon says that he is following your lead. The situation is pretty clear. The Blight is coming and you're the one calling the shots. In Origins, time is literally of the essence. While there are no in-game repercussions for taking your time, the Darkspawn Horde isn't really sitting around, waiting for you to finish. They're coming, whether you're ready or not.

You are not an adventurer, traveling about and seeing what interesting things he can discover. You're the last hope for the entire country. Loghain turned back the Orlesians at the border, you're it.

It's not YOUR army. Eammon is following your lead yes, but did you actually organise the army? The only thing you potentially did was give them money. And then give them orders, which is after the landsmeet as I said a millionth time already.

DA:O was a 50 hour full game. Awakening isn't. So of course you have more time to explore romances. That's on the technical side. In-game the events of Origins take on a year or so. That's enough time to build up romances. We have no idea how long the expansion is, both in-game and out. 

bythebarricades wrote...
If your argument held any water, you'd be saying that Arl Eamon should get rid of Isolde and Connor, because he doesn't have time for his family; he has to run Redcliffe and rebuild the village and so forth and so forth. Or Alistair should not marry the Warden and rule Ferelden, because Ferelden needs to be rebuilt and soldiers recruited to replace those lost, etc...

There is a difference between marriage and between fooling around flirting, which is the object of this thread. Marriage is quite the opposite of fooling around, so my argument stands. Second, I don't see Eammon fooling around with his wife and kid once events were set in motion. He was ready, preparing, organising and he wasn't fooling around.
 
As for Alistiar. Well anyone expecting him to do a decent job is out of his mind. But his romance with the Warden was before he was king and not after. Which is why in Awakening, Alistair is not going to have time to fool around with your warden.

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 20 février 2010 - 05:21 .

[sylvanaerie]

Caraine wrote...

DA:Origins is the first game I've played that allowed decent affectable character interaction. It *made* the game for me. I loved the fact that this was more than 'find that artifact', 'kill that monster'. It wasn't just the romantic aspect, it was the interpersonal aspect. I'd like to see it expanded actually as I found some of the dialogue choices / responses too confining. *raise hand if you'd have liked to be able to choose 'smack chosen companion upside da head for being an idiot' *

Or a /punt Isolde off the cliff option when shes whining TEEEAGAN at the windmill.

[Corephyfish]

It's an x-pac. it'd be too short to warrant adding any romance into it, itd be like "Hey your cute, we've spoken twice but but tents cold...wanna join me?"



Face it, there will be no romance in Awakenings. Move on and hope that what comes next will have romance or similar character interaction.

[Feraele]

shantisands wrote...

Well, I`d rather they say I was too busy than have them say that the stress of the position had just made me too fugly for any companion to think I was flirtable

And KnightofPhoenix...about Duncan.... My human noble females are grumbling that was indeed true. Duncan refused to romance them. *stomps off and slams the door*

Hehe funny stuffs

[Feraele]

There is a difference between marriage and between fooling around flirting, which is the object of this thread. Marriage is quite the opposite of fooling around, so my argument stands. Second, I don't see Eammon fooling around with his wife and kid once events were set in motion. He was ready, preparing, organising and he wasn't fooling around.





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Uhmm it is? I've been married a long time...since when ..you still flirt with your spouse..or at least I do LOL

[Feraele]

sylvanaerie wrote...

Caraine wrote...

DA:Origins is the first game I've played that allowed decent affectable character interaction. It *made* the game for me. I loved the fact that this was more than 'find that artifact', 'kill that monster'. It wasn't just the romantic aspect, it was the interpersonal aspect. I'd like to see it expanded actually as I found some of the dialogue choices / responses too confining. *raise hand if you'd have liked to be able to choose 'smack chosen companion upside da head for being an idiot' *

Or a /punt Isolde off the cliff option when shes whining TEEEAGAN at the windmill.

I would love to do something ebil to Isolde..hehe ..I mutter at her every time I have to listen to her foolishness.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Feraele wrote...

There is a difference between marriage and between fooling around flirting, which is the object of this thread. Marriage is quite the opposite of fooling around, so my argument stands. Second, I don't see Eammon fooling around with his wife and kid once events were set in motion. He was ready, preparing, organising and he wasn't fooling around.


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Uhmm it is? I've been married a long time...since when ..you still flirt with your spouse..or at least I do LOL

But you are not managing an army or rebuilding an order while flirting and romancing your partner, are you?

[Maria Caliban]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

It's being a Grey Warden commander, with the big responsability of rebuilding the Wardens in Ferelden. So does that kind of character really have time to flirt with useless peasants?

This reminds me of a scene in HBO's Rome where Mark Antony is being escorted to Rome for important political business. The scene has the entire train of servants and body guards stopped on the road, as Antony, in full military regalia, drills an irate looking shepardess against a tree.

Yes, of course powerful and important people flirt with and sleep with peasants. Do you remember a certain president and an intern? A certain golf pro and with his several affairs?

[Feraele]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Feraele wrote...

There is a difference between marriage and between fooling around flirting, which is the object of this thread. Marriage is quite the opposite of fooling around, so my argument stands. Second, I don't see Eammon fooling around with his wife and kid once events were set in motion. He was ready, preparing, organising and he wasn't fooling around.


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Uhmm it is? I've been married a long time...since when ..you still flirt with your spouse..or at least I do LOL

But you are not managing an army or rebuilding an order while flirting and romancing your partner, are you?

Only on my days off.  hehe

[Corephyfish]

Maria Caliban wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

It's being a Grey Warden commander, with the big responsability of rebuilding the Wardens in Ferelden. So does that kind of character really have time to flirt with useless peasants?

This reminds me of a scene in HBO's Rome where Mark Antony is being escorted to Rome for important political business. The scene has the entire train of servants and body guards stopped on the road, as Antony, in full military regalia, drills an irate looking shepardess against a tree. 

completely off topic but hehe I watched this 2 days ago.

But then again Marc Antony is an ass, trying to picture Alistair drilling an irate shepardess against a tree makes me lol.