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What happens if Shepard dies at the end of ME2?


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out of curiosity and in addition to my sensible play through save file, i'd like to have another save that has the worst possible odds of success in ME3

i'm confident i can get all of my squad mates to die with no problems but what about shepard dying?  is it true that if he/she does die at the end of ME2 you won't be able to import that save into ME3?

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Yep you can't import.

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Yup you wont be able to import your game.

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ribeyeking wrote...

out of curiosity and in addition to my sensible play through save file, i'd like to have another save that has the worst possible odds of success in ME3

i'm confident i can get all of my squad mates to die with no problems but what about shepard dying?  is it true that if he/she does die at the end of ME2 you won't be able to import that save into ME3?



sadly....it is true.you'll have to begin ME3 with a new heroPosted Image

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You died!?



So you're the one who got ME3 canceled! There is a special place in hell for you, sir!

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i've heard that as a rumor, hoping for a bioware employee or mod or whatever to give the final word on this

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Since I believe you can't import when Shepard dies in ME2, how will ME3 be "related" to Shepard's story if you'd have to create a new hero? I mean the new hero obviously can't be Shepard coz that will completely defeat the purpose of continuity between the two games.

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ribeyeking wrote...

i've heard that as a rumor, hoping for a bioware employee or mod or whatever to give the final word on this



Heres a link to confirm it :.......http://xbox360.ign.c.../1067323p1.html

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eer when you die YOUR shepard story ends so you gotta make a new shepard or in other words a new story.

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Creating a NEW Shepard still defeats the purpose of continuity. The new Shepard will STILL be Shepard. I just don't see the point in that. If your Shepard dies, shouldn't he/she be left at that? Maybe have a new hero who isn't Shepard somehow continue the legacy? I don't know.. just throwing ideas to somewhat make sense of this...

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well its how bioware wants to do it if u have problems complain to them.

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Shep is only mostly dead, therefore you only need a partial miracle to resurrect him again.



It will all be explained in a cut scene.



Joker will get you killed again if you survived.



Joker is a tool, I have to calculate Pi all day because he plugged in the overlord.

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i feel ya' Fayerielle, but i just want to clarify the reality of the situation before i go getting him killed =)

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Bigdoser wrote...

well its how bioware wants to do it if u have problems complain to them.


Excuse me? Who said I have problems? I'm just trying to make sense of it. If you have nothing better to say then just don't bother.

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If you play the story right (as in Shepard shouldn't die) you have nothing to worry about. If it helps, here's the quote from the website provided above.

Casey Hudson said...

"Dead is dead. Mass Effect 3, as with the rest of the trilogy, is Shepard's story. If you have a dead Shepard at the end of Mass Effect 2, that saved game won't import into Mass Effect 3, Hudson explained.

"You can play Mass Effect 3 if you died in Mass Effect 2 of course, but you'll have to create a new Shepard. Harsh? Yes. But we wouldn't be serious about the concept of a suicide mission if you couldn't die and your death didn't have serious consequences."


Modifié par Tandemir, 20 février 2010 - 06:57 .


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[quote]

Casey Hudson said...

"Dead is dead. Mass Effect 3, as with the rest of the trilogy, is Shepard's story. If you have a dead Shepard at the end of Mass Effect 2, that saved game won't import into Mass Effect 3, Hudson explained.

"You can play Mass Effect 3 if you died in Mass Effect 2 of course, but you'll have to create a new Shepard. Harsh? Yes. But we wouldn't be serious about the concept of a suicide mission if you couldn't die and your death didn't have serious consequences."
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Thanks for the post.
In that case, might as well keep Shepard alive so as not to completely derail the story.

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Fayerielle wrote...

Creating a NEW Shepard still defeats the purpose of continuity. The new Shepard will STILL be Shepard. I just don't see the point in that. If your Shepard dies, shouldn't he/she be left at that? Maybe have a new hero who isn't Shepard somehow continue the legacy? I don't know.. just throwing ideas to somewhat make sense of this...



As per his quote in my previous post.  MassEffect 3 is Shepard's story, meaning if you let him die in ME2 that's the end.  When you begin with a "new" shepard in ME3, you're beginning as if Shepard survived the mission.

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i read it Tandemir, but my point is i don't want to play the story "right" with this play through, i'm going for the polar opposite, don't care about renegade or paragon specifically, i just want things to be as hopeless as possible going into ME3 haha

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Fayerielle wrote...

Bigdoser wrote...

well its how bioware wants to do it if u have problems complain to them.


Excuse me? Who said I have problems? I'm just trying to make sense of it. If you have nothing better to say then just don't bother.

I'm fairly sure he means that you'll have to make a new Shepard as in with generic options chosen, like creating a new Shepard at ME2.  He just got confused at your argument.

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Then its the end of the line for Shepard.

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Fayerielle wrote...

Since I believe you can't import when Shepard dies in ME2, how will ME3 be "related" to Shepard's story if you'd have to create a new hero? I mean the new hero obviously can't be Shepard coz that will completely defeat the purpose of continuity between the two games.


ME3 is Shepards story, that's why you can't import a game where he died. It's to preserve continuity.

Way I see it, if Shepard dies at the end of ME2 your characters story ends there and your mission failed.

Edit: Damn, these forums move fast. I wander off for a drink mid-response and when I finally hit "Submit", half a dozen people have already beaten me to it!

Worst Possible Ending to ME2.

Modifié par Talogrungi, 20 février 2010 - 07:05 .


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Well yeah i did get kinda confused sorry if i came rude ; / anyway i am trying to find that post with the person who only had thane and morinith alive and made loads of bad decisions.

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ribeyeking wrote...

i read it Tandemir, but my point is i don't want to play the story "right" with this play through, i'm going for the polar opposite, don't care about renegade or paragon specifically, i just want things to be as hopeless as possible going into ME3 haha



If this is what you're looking for.  Do not upgrade anything or do any loyalty quests for anyone EXCEPT the two you take with you to fight at the end.  That should get everyone killed, except for you and the two that fought at the end with you.  That, I believe, is the worst possible ending with Shepard still alive.

Modifié par Tandemir, 20 février 2010 - 07:05 .


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i see both points here, not trying to argue game design, i just want to be sure of what will happen if my dude gets smoked

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Fayerielle wrote...

Since I believe you can't import when Shepard dies in ME2, how will ME3 be "related" to Shepard's story if you'd have to create a new hero? I mean the new hero obviously can't be Shepard coz that will completely defeat the purpose of continuity between the two games.

Mass Effect is the story of Commander Shepard, not the story of the defeat of the Reapers.
If your Shepard gets killed in ME2, that is the end of that particular Shepard's story.  There is no story continuity into ME3 because he is dead.  He fails to save the galaxy, dying heroically while destroying the Collectors.  If you want to continue onto ME3, the story is a retelling, with a different Commander Shepard who made different choices.  With all the decisions to be made in the first and second games, there are a number of paths Shepard's story could take, and some of them end in failure.