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[Cyberpawz]

You realize the company that owns PC World and MacWorld are both the same company?

[MolochMac]

I too have got plenty of friends having a Mac. And everyone of them is playing games ! One is on Bioshock, the other on Call of Duty 4… For me, i just finished Dragon Age : the best RPG ever, and i know what i'm talking about : i started with Wizardry in 1986 !…

I really hope Awakening - and even Return to Ostagar - are coming soon for my Mac. If i could, i'd buy them right away…

[Emrani]

I sent an email to customer support asking about Awakenings for mac and received the following response. The English is rather bad, but I think the gist is that Awakenings will be released for mac eventually.



"I would like to inform you that Dragon age Awakenings of pc version will not install and run on Mac version.Apart from this,I would like to inform you that "Dragon Age: Origins Awakening" is not available for Mac version.Since currently we got information from the developers that there is little delay in the releasing of the DLC "Dragon Age: Origins Awakening" for Mac.So Please wait we will appreciate your passion.



You may want to keep an eye on official forums/ web sites for future updated information in regard to this."

[C Butler]

That is a ridiculous reply.

It honestly can't be that hard to port it to the MAC.

It's not like it's a new executable, it's simply a giant add on.

Mac users got stone prisoner with their purchase without fuss, the same thing would be applied to the expansion, Honestly, it can't be that hard.



I'm playing on Mac, but I purchased a Windows copy and play with bootcamp just because I didn't want to wait for when it came out.

[Damodorr]

Ummm microsoft is lobbying in some way to make it pc only. Isn't that obvious? Either it's cash or promotions or something that's bigger than that potential cash flow from making it available to mac users.

[PeteSeg]

all I want to know is where is my version of awakenings for MAC

[gustsnts]

And it bothers me a lot that no one from Bioware support comes here to give us an update or even a single word about this. It's evidently delayed, but we want to know when and if it will be released at all!! I'm very disappointed about this and what I can say is that I won't throw my Mac away and get a PC. What I'll do is stop buying games from EA for all platforms...

[Domyk]

Uh oh a Mac vs PC war starting haha.



While I know Macs can run PC stuff these days. All I know is several years ago when shopping for my first computer I mainly based it on Software variety. PC had shelves and shelves of goodies to choose from. Mac software was hidden away in a corner on a single shelf collecting dust.

[foxtcg]

Man, I got all excited when I saw the apple logo on the Awakenings page! got to say, this is the first game ever that I have finished playing and immediately started to play it again. Hope they finish the mac expansion soon....

[Lacivicus]

foxtcg wrote...

Man, I got all excited when I saw the apple logo on the Awakenings page! got to say, this is the first game ever that I have finished playing and immediately started to play it again. Hope they finish the mac expansion soon....

Yeah man, me too.  I saw the apple and immediately went back to Gametree, and then I was sad.  

[Dlokir]

I didn't bought DAO when it's been released on PC, mainly because I was partially hateful that my country didn't get a collector edition. When the Mac version was released I jump on it and played few hours until I met some performance problems. After some investigation I get the PC version that had perfect performances (on the same computer) and played on bootcamp. I get Awakening and palying it (a bit too soon I should have wait a patch). But as soon as Mac DAA is released I'll get buy it, here is a Mac user, a Mac gamer. Seems weird, probably some Apple mass hypnotizing but I don't care much.

When a PC user will be able to understand such behavior he could start coming lost time debate about Mac with Mac users, before that, it's pointless and time lost.

[Seifz]

Cyberpawz wrote...

With the latest system upgrades (larger memory capacity), and video cards, as well as Apple purchasing chip production companies that have the processor, memory and video card into an individual processor, Apple is no longer going to be a small fish in a big pond.

Wait, what?  Are you trying to claim that 1) Apple computers have more memory than non-Apple computers, and 2) that Apple is moving to a system-on-a-chip solution?  That's absurd.  If anything, the hardward in Apple comptuer is inferior to what's available to the rest of us.

The DA:O port was just a crappy Cider port anyway.  I wouldn't expect much from DA:OA.

Modifié par Seifz, 17 avril 2010 - 11:58 .

[Cyberpawz]

Seifz wrote...

Cyberpawz wrote...

With the latest system upgrades (larger memory capacity), and video cards, as well as Apple purchasing chip production companies that have the processor, memory and video card into an individual processor, Apple is no longer going to be a small fish in a big pond.

Wait, what?  Are you trying to claim that 1) Apple computers have more memory than non-Apple computers, and 2) that Apple is moving to a system-on-a-chip solution?  That's absurd.  If anything, the hardward in Apple comptuer is inferior to what's available to the rest of us.

The DA:O port was just a crappy Cider port anyway.  I wouldn't expect much from DA:OA.

No, what I am saying is that Apple has computer systems that can handle any PC game out there... native or not.

[Seifz]

Cyberpawz wrote...

Seifz wrote...

Cyberpawz wrote...

With the latest system upgrades (larger memory capacity), and video cards, as well as Apple purchasing chip production companies that have the processor, memory and video card into an individual processor, Apple is no longer going to be a small fish in a big pond.

Wait, what?  Are you trying to claim that 1) Apple computers have more memory than non-Apple computers, and 2) that Apple is moving to a system-on-a-chip solution?  That's absurd.  If anything, the hardward in Apple comptuer is inferior to what's available to the rest of us.

The DA:O port was just a crappy Cider port anyway.  I wouldn't expect much from DA:OA.

No, what I am saying is that Apple has computer systems that can handle any PC game out there... native or not.

Well, fair enough.  The newest iMacs can handle any game out there right now.  Good luck upgrading them for next year's games, though.  

Modifié par Seifz, 18 avril 2010 - 12:10 .

[Cyberpawz]

Seifz wrote...

Cyberpawz wrote...

Seifz wrote...

Cyberpawz wrote...

With the latest system upgrades (larger memory capacity), and video cards, as well as Apple purchasing chip production companies that have the processor, memory and video card into an individual processor, Apple is no longer going to be a small fish in a big pond.

Wait, what?  Are you trying to claim that 1) Apple computers have more memory than non-Apple computers, and 2) that Apple is moving to a system-on-a-chip solution?  That's absurd.  If anything, the hardward in Apple comptuer is inferior to what's available to the rest of us.

The DA:O port was just a crappy Cider port anyway.  I wouldn't expect much from DA:OA.

No, what I am saying is that Apple has computer systems that can handle any PC game out there... native or not.

Well, fair enough.  The newest iMacs can handle any game out there right now.  Good luck upgrading them for next year's games, though.  

Normally I'd agree, but the newest iMacs are pretty good in general, but if I wanted to get a gaming machine I'd still get a MacPro Tower, yes it is expensive, but with how it is looking everything except the motherboard is exchangable... either way for now it is symantics.

As for computer games in general, I've never really had issues for the Mac when it has come to gaming. I use to play Unreal Tournament 2003 on a Mac that suposidly couldn't handle it, did so without any problems. again a moot point, but I don't think we are going to have an issue with the games for a while on the iMacs that are out there now.

[rsongy]

Go ahead and take a quick look at this forum...



http://social.biowar...7/index/2274831



When they released DA:O for Mac, you had to purchase the DLC with it, or never have it at all because they don't offer separate downloads. The version of DAO for mac released is 1.0 also and they haven't released the patches for Mac. I'm sure they don't want to release Awakening for Mac as/is because it's crap and they won't release patches for Mac just like the first one. However... it is possible to manually install the PC patches and the DLC content on the Mac, even "Return to Ostagar" I was able to purchase and download on my PC and transfer it to my Mac and manually install it. But who knows.. It is pretty frustrating. I need my Mac for videos/pictures/music/programming & media, etc... But I also wish I had something for gaming. Costs too much money to upgrade two machines so unfortunately, I have to make due with manual installations and flakey customer service. Ohwell

[Dlokir]

Seifz wrote...

Well, fair enough.  The newest iMacs can
handle any game out there right now.  Good luck upgrading them for next
year's games, though.  

Upgrading a PC for power never been a good solution because when
you upgrade one element other not upgraded destroy its possibilities. People upgrading a PC for
newest games, I'd like see that, the truth is people buy a new PC, at
least 99% of gamers do that. There's only one possible exception is the
video card if you buy initially a crap but if your system is too old it won't be enough anyway.

Modifié par Dlokir, 18 avril 2010 - 10:24 .

[CybAnt1]

It has always been thus for Mac gaming. Games come later, expansions come later (or never at all; there were several cases expansions were simply never ported), sequels come later or not at all, patches & updates are more glacial, in almost every case any side tools for game level construction are never included, access to player-made content is often not there, and ports are often half-*ssed introducing new issues that didn't even exist in the original.



I got tired of it. That's why I'll only support companies that don't treat Mac gamers as second-class citizens, and Blizzard happens to be one. Simultaneous release of everything. I don't like all their games, but I like this practice.



Bioware is not one -- but I love their games enough, so I end up playing them under Bootcamp. (shrug).

[ItzAtol]

I cant wait for DA Awakening for my mac, the only problem is that i have a macbook pro mid 2009, and i have to play with lowest settings to get an acceptable frame rate, which sucks but hey its still a good game

[Burglekut]

CybAnt1 wrote...

It has always been thus for Mac gaming. Games come later, expansions come later (or never at all; there were several cases expansions were simply never ported), sequels come later or not at all, patches & updates are more glacial, in almost every case any side tools for game level construction are never included, access to player-made content is often not there, and ports are often half-*ssed introducing new issues that didn't even exist in the original.

I got tired of it. That's why I'll only support companies that don't treat Mac gamers as second-class citizens, and Blizzard happens to be one. Simultaneous release of everything. I don't like all their games, but I like this practice.

Bioware is not one -- but I love their games enough, so I end up playing them under Bootcamp. (shrug).

Please educate yourself on what Boot Camp is.  Your Mac can be a PC.

[CybAnt1]

Please educate yourself on what Boot Camp is.  Your Mac can be a PC.

I'm well educated on it; I'm using it.  I do real work on my Mac, I reboot into Windows to play games (because I would never try to do real work under Windows). 

I just like people like Blizzard that don't make me reboot my computer to run their games, especially since now BTW with things like Cider porting is easier than ever. (And Parallels etc. blow for gaming.) 

BTW, on one linguistic point that kind of annoys me; a Mac is a personal computer (PC). Therefore, Macs are PCs. 

[Burglekut]

CybAnt1 wrote...

Please educate yourself on what Boot Camp is.  Your Mac can be a PC.

I'm well educated on it; I'm using it.  I do real work on my Mac, I reboot into Windows to play games (because I would never try to do real work under Windows). 

I just like people like Blizzard that don't make me reboot my computer to run their games, especially since now BTW with things like Cider porting is easier than ever. (And Parallels etc. blow for gaming.) 

BTW, on one linguistic point that kind of annoys me; a Mac is a personal computer (PC). Therefore, Macs are PCs. 

Mac and PC development are two totally different things.  Just be lucky you can use Boot Camp to play it.

[Mycrus Ironfist]

OnlyShallow89 wrote...

Cyberpawz wrote...

You missed the point, which doesn't amaze me, but I'll attempt to explain a little more clearly. (no I'm not calling you stupid or ignorant)

60% + of Mac people will buy this game, you'll lucky if you see the same percentage of any other platform. This is due to the fact that the Mac community was largely ignored for a good portion of the history of the OS as a gaming system. That means people who own a Mac are hungry for computer games, especially those who are of my age and caliber.  (35 yrs old, which has been playing games longer than most people on this forum have been alive)

With the latest system upgrades (larger memory capacity), and video cards, as well as Apple purchasing chip production companies that have the processor, memory and video card into an individual processor, Apple is no longer going to be a small fish in a big pond.

The fact is that PC users own 80% of the market, yet 3% may purchase this game. The same percentage will be for the 360 and the PS3... you may see 15% but the fact is that you'll never have a saturation of market as you would if you produced games for Macs.

You are going to say that 60% of the Mac people don't equal 3% of the entire PC market, that may be true but there is no historical data that this game will ever make the top 20 games of the US never mind the world. It is a good game yes, but this game will be lucky to see 1% of the market share of PC  or PS3 systems in the US alone. If it was true then we would see a significantly larger number of registered people here on the forum, and not the small amount we have seen so far.

As for my proof of my statements:
http://www.theesa.co.../gameplayer.asp

This made me laugh.
No way in the Nine Circles of Hell will Dragon Age be bought by 60% of Mac users. Those who wish to own a Mac and play games will, by now, have found a compromise - Whether it's boot camp, a console or a seperate PC.

agree.

i don't see a "mac" kind of a person fiddling around with trying games to run on the mac. better to buy a separate gaming rig (pc, console, or what have you).

[CybAnt1]

Mac and PC development are two totally different things. 

Actually, they were two different things. Back in the 90s-early 00s, Macs used PowerPC chips and Windows PCs used Intel processors. This made porting a very difficult and laborious task. 

Now Macs use the same processors. It makes porting easier - especially if you use technologies like Cider. Unless, of course, you just don't care about porting. 

Just be lucky you can use Boot Camp to play it.

I don't consider myself lucky: I do it because I have to. I can play the Mac native version, but unfortunately, miss out on most of the stuff people are complaining about. 

There are still people who believe in releasing everything for both platforms & on the same day, and I praise them for doing so. Blizzard is the main company that does. Obviously it's doable, if you give a sh*t about doing it. 

Ironically, as I said, the one good fact about Awakening being delayed for the Mac is when it does finally come out it will probably include patches for it -- assuming they ever do release any. 

[Mycrus Ironfist]

Burglekut wrote...

CybAnt1 wrote...

Please educate yourself on what Boot Camp is.  Your Mac can be a PC.

I'm well educated on it; I'm using it.  I do real work on my Mac, I reboot into Windows to play games (because I would never try to do real work under Windows). 

I just like people like Blizzard that don't make me reboot my computer to run their games, especially since now BTW with things like Cider porting is easier than ever. (And Parallels etc. blow for gaming.) 

BTW, on one linguistic point that kind of annoys me; a Mac is a personal computer (PC). Therefore, Macs are PCs. 

Mac and PC development are two totally different things.  Just be lucky you can use Boot Camp to play it.

semantics... aside from the hobby kits the first "PC" was a Mac.

i would have taken to the mac if boot camp was available from the get go.... but no... "you had to buy your software and hardware from a single company" model is a wee bit too greedy for me.