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[JasonPogo]

Ok for one thing Utha dose not know that the taint will change her in any way other than physical. If she did know about how much it changed Bregan she might not have joined. If you go back and read the parts of the book from Bregan's point of view from before the taint takes him he is a very different character. He talks at length about his contempt for being a Gray Warden and he only did it for Genevieve. Yet when you first meet him he is a normal Gray Warden who wants to kill off the Darkspawn. He was the Commander for hecks sake. You don't get to that position if you are not devoted and good at your job. I think we should look at Bregan as a character like Duncan. Duncan hates being a Gray Warden. He resents being made one. Yet he still strives to be a good one and do the right thing. Yet as the taint took over Bregan he thought only of the bad. And grew only angry.

So with all that we can see that whatever the Architects goal is it can't be good. The taint touched the Wardens and did not kill them but it most definitely changed them. Made them mad and evil the very thing the Darkspawn are said to be.


That being said If Utha is in the game I hope we can talk her into changing sides and not have to fight her. I think she deserves a good redemption death like Bregan got.

Modifié par JasonPogo, 27 octobre 2009 - 11:11 .

[JEBesh]

I know Utha is not a bad little dwarf at heart, but I will definitely smack her face if I see her in game just for being a dumb-dumb and following Genevieve, who is blisteringly stupid.

Modifié par JEBesh, 27 octobre 2009 - 11:12 .

[DaySeeker]

I think The Architect's motives are his own and have little to do with helping darkspawn or humans. And Utha, I thought she was just going along with it hoping to be cured later or sacrificing herself to be in a position to save the others.



BUT if we did fight her it would be cool cuz then there would be a martial arts template and in an expansion we could create a silent sister or a screaming brother.

[Joel171]

JEBesh wrote...

I know Utha is not a bad little dwarf at heart, but I will definitely smack her face if I see her in game just for being a dumb-dumb and following Genevieve, who is blisteringly stupid.

^ this.

She made the wrong choice. Choices come with consequences. If we meet her, my team and I will be that consequence.

[Malkavianqueen]

I know everyone's going to think I'm crazy, but I thought the Architect was adorable! ^__^; He was a pale socially akward corpsey thing...



...If I saw him in game I would want to poke him. *will probably end up having to kill him anyway*

[Tildi]

imported_beer wrote...

Unlike others, and even though I liked Kell and Hafter, I do not see Utha in quite as "black and white" terms as the OP.

I keep thinking that being a dwarf is completely different. It is not like being a human grey warden when you stand vigil for a long time and face them when they come. That way you have the chance at least for a bit to have a normal life, to have the joys that come with living that normal life. You do not watch the neverending death and destruction as she has.

Utha- has the worst of both worlds when it comes to life. Not only is she from a race that has never known respite from the blight, but also a race that has now come to be defined by it. Plus, she is a Grey Warden, struggling with that taint herself. I think the turning point for her comes when she sees the remains of her clan in the deep roads. Here I think she sees the futility of that never ending struggle in a more intimate way than the others can ever comprehend. And I think the seeds of "I shall end the blight no matter what it takes" becomes sown in her mind.

I agree with imported_beer. The dwarves have battled the darkspawn for eons. For them it has been one continual blight, not a series of blights like the surface people have seen. In the book "The Calling" , the group come across the remains of one of the dwarven thaigs in the Deep Roads. In the town square next to a fountain are the remains of the last stand the dwarfs took againest the Blight. Utha struggles to pull a flat rock to erect a last memorial to the fallen dwarves. The dwarves that were part of her family. And this thaig was where she grew up. Utha signs with her hands that all of her family was killed by the darkspawn.

Later on when Maric is in the Dream Fade he comes across Utha and her family. She wants to stay with her family but she knows they were all killed. And she tells Maric how she had made a vow to avenge her family. First, by becoming a Silent Sister and then by becoming a Grey Warden.

Utha's motives are good. The Architect offers to end the Blight forever. Utha also wants vengence, and a vow to a dwarf is a very sacred thing. It could be that Utha may not go along completely with the Architect's plans. If all the Old Gods are killed, she may consider that as vengence and end her commitment with the Architect. No Old Gods, no more Blights. Only Bioware and author David Gaider really know what we are in store for! And I will happily go along for the ride! 

[Spaghetti_Ninja]

Utha is a big fat traitor. She appeared all nice and sympathetic during the book, but now she suddenly wants to turn the entire world into a freakshow. Even Genevieve and Bregan came to their senses just before they died. There is really no excuse.