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My total disdain for Zaeed


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#51
Terraneaux

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Tyreal42a wrote...

Oh yeah, as an Australian, I find it hilarious people think it's an aussie accent.

But then, I managed to convince someone who has never been here that I keep a crocodile in my backyard to wrestle, ride a kangaroo around and that a koala is a poisonous killer, so I guess some people are clueless.


My boss is Australian and likes to joke that he had to wrestle a crocodile when he turned 13 as a rite of passage.  What's funny is that some people believe him.

Zaeed gave off the vibe that English wasn't his first language but he learned it with a British accent.  I don't know why.

Modifié par Terraneaux, 20 février 2010 - 11:46 .


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Frotality wrote...

he is a d*ckhead to shepard and everyone else, has absolutely no character development beyond being a d*ckhead, and his loyalty mission only ever re-enforces his d*ckheaded-ness; and to top it all off inferno grenade sucks.

why they felt the need to tack him on is.....beyond me; he offers utterly nothing to the game but a place on the squad screen and some banter.


Your first three points are exactly why I love the character. Rest of it, as Zaeed might say, is bollocks IMOImage IPB

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HAGA NAGA

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oh please. i have total disdain for only one character. the kind that makes threads like this.

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RighteousRage

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He's like Kano from the MK movie or something

i.e. a punching bag

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Nigawatts

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He's ugly as sin...I mean god when the camera closes in on his face I'm like WTF...It's like his skin isn't his skin.



If Zaeed had been a Batarian I would have like him 100X more.

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Nigawatts wrote...

He's ugly as sin...I mean god when the camera closes in on his face I'm like WTF...It's like his skin isn't his skin.

If Zaeed had been a Batarian I would have like him 100X more.


oh i know! i hate it when games have any characters in them that aren't pretty. it's sooo cliche, right?

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Nigawatts

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I know, it's like they are trying to make me mad personally, almost like you...

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I like Zaeed a lot. He has a great voice and I love the stories he tells.



He's just perfectly cynical, like you would expect a hardcore merc to be.



I also like that there's one person in the entire ME universe that doesn't want to share their life story.

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I love how he says GODDAM. That is enough for me--he was DLC after all. But besides that his loyalty mission was pretty awesome, and it gave both you and him a chance at redemption.



"...and then we can be big GODDAM heroes!"

"*chuckling* That's GODDAM suicide!"



You get the point.

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Zaeed wasn't that fleshed out but he's still okay. He's got some great dialogue with Tarak during Garrus's recruitment mission. He could always be fleshed out more in ME3, though.

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Zaeed was in my squad set-up almost constantly. In fact if the character couldn't use an assault rifle they didn't get picked, unless it was mandatory. I played insanity with Garrus and Zaeed almost exclusively. He may not be a teddy bear but in a galaxy where virtually everything is trying to kill you he is a good choice to watch your back.

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I didn't mind Zaeed until his loyality mission.  What he did at the refinery reminded me to much the conversation in ME1 with Anderson, explaining his past history with Saren.  After that I loathed him.  I view him as a human version of Saren, willing to kill anyone to accomplish his goals.

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I loved Zaeed, I just hated his implementation. It felt shoddy, and tacked on. Compare him to Dragon Age's Shale, who from all accounts I've read was fully integrated into the game. Clearly, they just had the Shepards record some basic dialogue (the "recruitment" conversation and the loyalty mission), then at one point had the Zaeed VA come in and record a shedload of dialogue himself. His work was all great, but would it have killed them to script two way conversations?

I mean Mark Meer said in an interview right before the game came out that just that week he'd been recording dialogue for DLC. I'd like to think if they were getting him in for the day, they'd record more than just the tiny smidgen of Zaeed-related dialogue they did. And if he was speaking of some other hush hush future DLC, and they got him in for that, then why not for Zaeed too?

I mean, they couldn't even be bothered creating two Zaeed missions, recruitment and loyalty. I've got nothing but praise for Zaeed's VA (the guy who played Ethan Rayne on Buffy... I want to say Robin Sachs?), but BioWare couldn't have been lazier with this. I know it's highly unlikely, but to me it honestly feels like they saw the success of Shale back in November and said "hey, how quickly can we whip up one of those for ME2?" I mean, they didn't go gold until just before Christmas, it'd be tight, but there would be time to squeeze the necessary Zaeed files onto the disk.

I can only hope, with so much more time to prepare, that Kasumi's DLC is much more fleshed out. I mean, I wished all the characters in the game were more fleshed out (4 conversations per squadmate to have after each of the 4 missions worked in ME1, 4 conversations per character for 21 missions in ME2, fail), but Zaeed was just like a toy with a pull string.

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Nigawatts wrote...

He's ugly as sin...I mean god when the camera closes in on his face I'm like WTF...It's like his skin isn't his skin.

If Zaeed had been a Batarian I would have like him 100X more.

At this point I just pretend Zaeed is a batarian. He works much better that way than he does as a human.

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Aw...I quite like Zaeed. While I enjoy listening to his stories (I go to the Engineering Deck almost every time I'm on the Normandy, even to listen to stories I've already heard), it would be nice to be able to comment, but...eh, I'll take what I can get.

Modifié par Kekse2k, 21 février 2010 - 03:31 .


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1) If you say Zaeed is not "fleshed out" or "is a d*ck", go back and talk to him. Listen to everyone of his conversations. THEN you have the right to pass judgments. If you still think he is a d*ck, it's your call; but the only reason why you're calling such a well-developed character not "fleshed out" is because you're too lazy to interact with him.

2) Zaeed actually has more "interactions" with you than almost any other character in the game, if you bothered going down and talk to him and taking him on missions. If you choose to ignore this because you're so narcissistic you can't listen to his stories without talking back, at least have the decency to hold your judgment and steering away from hate threads like this.

Modifié par Speakeasy13, 21 février 2010 - 03:45 .


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Anacronian Stryx

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Zaeed is cool.. he shoots from the hip like in a old western, He's the Duke of space!

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At first I found him a bit of a tool but after gaining his loyalty the Paragon way he kind of grew on me.

He reminds me a lot of Canderous Ordo/Mandalore from Kotor and I can't stay mad at anyone who reminds me of him.

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I like that you can punch him.

Don't get me wrong though, I like him. Just not in my squad. He's one hell of a story teller too. =)

Modifié par PandemicFear, 21 février 2010 - 04:42 .


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Speakeasy13 wrote...

1) If you say Zaeed is not "fleshed out" or "is a d*ck", go back and talk to him. Listen to everyone of his conversations. THEN you have the right to pass judgments. If you still think he is a d*ck, it's your call; but the only reason why you're calling such a well-developed character not "fleshed out" is because you're too lazy to interact with him.

2) Zaeed actually has more "interactions" with you than almost any other character in the game, if you bothered going down and talk to him and taking him on missions. If you choose to ignore this because you're so narcissistic you can't listen to his stories without talking back, at least have the decency to hold your judgment and steering away from hate threads like this.

I'm not sure if that was aimed at me or what, but I'm half guessing so since I used the phrase "fleshed out" like three posts above yours. Just to clarify - I didn't mean that Zaeed isn't a fleshed out character. I listened to every single thing he had to say, and went back for more besides after he started looping, just on the offchance there was something new. I meant that Bioware's implementation of the DLC wasn't fleshed out. I do believe they took the easy, lazy way out in terms of integrating him with the game, but I have nothing but praise for the character.

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You didn't call him a d*ck, so I don't think it was aimed at you Stoko. May be wrong... but I think not.

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Zaeed rocks.

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Modifié par NuclearBuddha, 22 février 2010 - 12:03 .


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I like Zaeed, both for being useful in combat, and for finally giving us a badass human for a squadmate. Yeah, he's kind of a dick, but I'd have to think that after a lifetime of war and violence one's manners might erode a bit, and your ability to empathize with those who are too weak or complacent to fight for themselves would suffer as well.



I mean, on the one hand I feel for the workers at the refinery, but on the other hand, just jump, don't be such a ****.

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 I think my favorite moment in this game was punching this guy in the face on his loyalty mission.

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IndomitusRex wrote...

I mean, on the one hand I feel for the workers at the refinery, but on the other hand, just jump, don't be such a ****.


I love you, man.