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[It IS Lupus]

[shinobi602]

Wow, purposefully derailing the topic. That's a little rude guys.......

Modifié par shinobi602, 21 février 2010 - 01:43 .

[Corporal Quarian]

shinobi602 wrote...

Wow, you guys are a little rude, purposefully derailing the topic...

How so? I find hate threads like this one far more rude.

[It IS Lupus]

agreed with Corporal Quarian

[KainrycKarr]

The deaths were all interchangeable and were not character-specific.



Someone *might* die at point A, B, C, and D, etc.



So...how does this define the story? Anyone could be alive, just as much as they could be dead.



so it doesn't change or hurt the story at all to write that character in as possibly being alive, and therefore being a squadmate option.

[Mooner911]

I'll support this thread as long as no one f***s with Liara.



k?

[GuardianAngel470]

Madecologist wrote...

Kordras wrote...

People just like to talk about their favorite characters.

Touche! What else will we talk about. This is not an MMO, we can't complain about the lack of raids, nerfing of classes, and ganking in PVP. So we talk about... waffles, Tali, and our favourite characters.

Oh and Cutlass Jack.

CUTLASS JACK!

[shinobi602]

Corporal Quarian wrote...

How so? I find hate threads like this one far more rude.

Hate? That's a really strong word, and I don't think comes anywhere near the nature of the OP's point at all. I didn't see any hate.

[Anhihi]

Corporal Quarian wrote...

shinobi602 wrote...

Wow, you guys are a little rude, purposefully derailing the topic...

How so? I find hate threads like this one far more rude.

please explain to me how this is a hate thread..
at any point, I didn't intent it like that and like I stated, I'm sorry if I offended anyone.

[KainrycKarr]

Mooner911 wrote...

I'll support this thread as long as no one f***s with Liara.

k?

Don't worry, noone can hurt her. She got herself stuck in another bubble until ME3.

[KainrycKarr]

KainrycKarr wrote...

The deaths were all interchangeable and were not character-specific.

Someone *might* die at point A, B, C, and D, etc.

So...how does this define the story? Anyone could be alive, just as much as they could be dead.

so it doesn't change or hurt the story at all to write that character in as possibly being alive, and therefore being a squadmate option.

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[The Angry One]

Yeah this thread has been completely derailed.

Where are my waffles damnit.

[GenericPlayer2]

I totally agree with the OP. I am really worried at this point that fan service will take over great story telling. On the other hand, if ME3 really is only a year away as is rumored, then it should be well along in its development. As such, all these support threads should have little impact. Keeping my fingers crossed.



Its one thing to share fond experiences with regards to specific squad members, favorable quotes, battle and build strategy, but stuff like "its up to us to keep Tali alive in ME3" really is too much. Its up to individual players to keep squad members alive in their individual play throughs. Its up to BioWare to tell a great story and provide a good game play experience. That's my opinion anyways.

[lltoon]

Ah yes.... 'waffles'

Modifié par lltoon, 21 février 2010 - 01:49 .

[notphrog]

Keltoris wrote...

notphrog wrote...

So you hope that Bioware ignores their fans. Denies that anybody likes their characters? Scatter our favorites to the four corners just because you expect them to?

No. I know they know we love our characters. (Except Jacob and Kaiden who we all "meh" to death.) There's nothing more to prove imo. They know we'd want to keep the squad. Developers on average make better games than fans, so I would prefer Bioware is not overly swayed by our petitioning

I'm not asking a lot. I just want to be able to use the squadmates that survived. It's why I worked to keep them alive. Is that little bit of continuity so extreme?

The worst thing they could do would be to kill everyone off at the beginning without being able to avoid it. It would be like giving us a choice and a chance to get our squad out alive, only to say "what you did doesn't matter, we weren't going to let you have them anyway."

I don't want my favorite characters to die. But if they do in the course of the ME3 story, I will be saddened, but I'll accept it as long as I had the chance to save them.

I really don't think I'm asking too much. I don't think letting our choices carry over like this is going to ruin the story.

[Corporal Quarian]

shinobi602 wrote...

Corporal Quarian wrote...

How so? I find hate threads like this one far more rude.

Hate? That's a really strong word, and I don't think comes anywhere near the nature of the OP's point at all. I didn't see any hate.

Well, considering there are posts ALL THE TIME saying "I hate this character", "I hate these fans", or "I hate this thread"... all of which are made just to make said fans angry, I'd call it a hate thread.

[KainrycKarr]

KainrycKarr wrote...

KainrycKarr wrote...

The deaths were all interchangeable and were not character-specific.

Someone *might* die at point A, B, C, and D, etc.

So...how does this define the story? Anyone could be alive, just as much as they could be dead.

so it doesn't change or hurt the story at all to write that character in as possibly being alive, and therefore being a squadmate option.

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Someone tell me how writing in survivors as potential squadmates hurts the plot, considering there are no had-to-die scenarios with the squadmates.

The goal of the suicide mission is to-derp-survive, not to get people killed.

[Anhihi]

KainrycKarr wrote...

KainrycKarr wrote...

The deaths were all interchangeable and were not character-specific.

Someone *might* die at point A, B, C, and D, etc.

So...how does this define the story? Anyone could be alive, just as much as they could be dead.

so it doesn't change or hurt the story at all to write that character in as possibly being alive, and therefore being a squadmate option.

]

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There are also threads about Joker, and other characters. Indeed, you can keep everyone alive, but maybe this isn't the case in ME3

[Biotic_Warlock]

There isnt a chakwas thread?

[Corporal Quarian]

notphrog wrote...

Keltoris wrote...

notphrog wrote...

So you hope that Bioware ignores their fans. Denies that anybody likes their characters? Scatter our favorites to the four corners just because you expect them to?

No. I know they know we love our characters. (Except Jacob and Kaiden who we all "meh" to death.) There's nothing more to prove imo. They know we'd want to keep the squad. Developers on average make better games than fans, so I would prefer Bioware is not overly swayed by our petitioning

I'm not asking a lot. I just want to be able to use the squadmates that survived. It's why I worked to keep them alive. Is that little bit of continuity so extreme?

The worst thing they could do would be to kill everyone off at the beginning without being able to avoid it. It would be like giving us a choice and a chance to get our squad out alive, only to say "what you did doesn't matter, we weren't going to let you have them anyway."

I don't want my favorite characters to die. But if they do in the course of the ME3 story, I will be saddened, but I'll accept it as long as I had the chance to save them.

I really don't think I'm asking too much. I don't think letting our choices carry over like this is going to ruin the story.

Well said.

[Driving Ghost]

GenericPlayer2 wrote...

I totally agree with the OP. I am really worried at this point that fan service will take over great story telling. On the other hand, if ME3 really is only a year away as is rumored, then it should be well along in its development. As such, all these support threads should have little impact. Keeping my fingers crossed.

Its one thing to share fond experiences with regards to specific squad members, favorable quotes, battle and build strategy, but stuff like "its up to us to keep Tali alive in ME3" really is too much. Its up to individual players to keep squad members alive in their individual play throughs. Its up to BioWare to tell a great story and provide a good game play experience. That's my opinion anyways.

Dude. We don't realy talk about that. We just talk about Tali and things related to her. We don't plot to blow up Bioware HQ if she has a low role (although some have suggested it.)

But as Zero Punctiation says it:
Fish swim
Birds fly
Someperson molests dogs and
Bioware games have good writing.

[KainrycKarr]

Anhihi wrote...

KainrycKarr wrote...

KainrycKarr wrote...

The deaths were all interchangeable and were not character-specific.

Someone *might* die at point A, B, C, and D, etc.

So...how does this define the story? Anyone could be alive, just as much as they could be dead.

so it doesn't change or hurt the story at all to write that character in as possibly being alive, and therefore being a squadmate option.

]

Please respond.

There are also threads about Joker, and other characters. Indeed, you can keep everyone alive, but maybe this isn't the case in ME3

As of everything we know, and has been revealed, noone was "canon" to die. Death was completely optional. If it was part of the story that someone in particular died, it would have been like virmire.

I.E. either Legion or Tali had to die in the vents. That is a scenario in which it breaks immersion to have them as a potential squaddie. why? because one of them HAD to die. You wouldn't be able to get around it.

This is not the case. It is quite easy to keep everyone alive, and it is obviously the GOAL to keep everyone alive.

Again, please explain how writing out a potential surviving squadmate breaks immersion. You can simply just NOT have them if they are dead in your save.

[shinobi602]

Corporal Quarian wrote...

Well, considering there are posts ALL THE TIME saying "I hate this character", "I hate these fans", or "I hate this thread"... all of which are made just to make said fans angry, I'd call it a hate thread.

Except the OP didn't even mention the word once....all he said was he's worried the story might be worsened by these support things (of which I'm guilty of, not in denial), and he expressed why he thinks so. I don't see why so many people were so inconsiderate and decided to change the topic like that...

[KainrycKarr]

shinobi602 wrote...

Corporal Quarian wrote...

Well, considering there are posts ALL THE TIME saying "I hate this character", "I hate these fans", or "I hate this thread"... all of which are made just to make said fans angry, I'd call it a hate thread.

Except the OP didn't even mention the word once....all he said was he's worried the story might be worsened by these support things (of which I'm guilty of, not in denial), and he expressed why he thinks so. I don't see why so many people were so inconsiderate and decided to change the topic like that...

Oh the poor, poor OP. I have e-mailed a scan of the world's smallest violin.

[BobbyTheI]

Anhihi wrote...

I think the "team mate support threads" are really retarded

I see nothing but love in this statement.