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[Ryzaki]

That's probably why Hale annoys me. Both Bastila and Naomi made me want to kick them in the face. >_>

[Hizoka003]

she could talk like chewbacca and still sound better then meer

[digitalDeimos]

Personally, I wanted R2D2.....

[Soruyao]

Paragon femshep sounds angry because she has this ideal about the way morality should work in the galaxy and everything she's seeing and having to do goes against that.



She's frustrated and angry that she has to work with cerberus. She's frustrated and angry that she can't fix omega and that people are dying and that people are turning their back on her as if she's one of the bad guys.



I'd be pissed too.

[Atmosfear3]

I'm very curious about how Bioware does their voice acting recording. Do they have the actors just read lines to record in no particular order? Do they try to engage the actor in the actual conversation leading up to the line they want to record? There just seems to be almost not enthusiasm from either maleshep or femshep.

[LiquidGrape]

I have no idea what some of you people are going on about.
Jennifer Hale is generally nigh flawless in her deliveries.
The only moments I've found slightly cringe-worthy are when the script fails to impress, which damages the performance.

Mark Meer on the other hand... he is usually a perfectly fine actor.
But his work in Mass Effect I find nothing short but deplorable.
Like a piece of cardboard rubbing against a concrete wall; flat and coarse in one gloriously ineffectual symbiosis.

Modifié par LiquidGrape, 22 février 2010 - 09:46 .

[Wakara Pezi]

Jackal904 wrote...

I think Jennifer Hale does an amazing job as femShep. Some people are impossible to please...

I second this!

[Wakara Pezi]

LiquidGrape wrote...

I have no idea what some of you people are going on about.
Jennifer Hale is generally nigh flawless in her deliveries.
The only moments I've found slightly cringe-worthy are when the script fails to impress, which damages the performance.

Mark Meer on the other hand... he is usually a perfectly fine actor.
But his work in Mass Effect I find nothing short but deplorable.
Like a piece of cardboard rubbing against a concrete wall; flat and coarse in one gloriously ineffectual symbiosis.

I agree!

[Soruyao]

The main problem people seem to be having with hale is that she sounds angry even on her paragon lines. I do think that this make sense though, since she has great reason to be frustrated and angry.

[Jackal904]

Soruyao wrote...

The main problem people seem to be having with hale is that she sounds angry even on her paragon lines. I do think that this make sense though, since she has great reason to be frustrated and angry.

I don't think she sounds angry, she just sounds tough, which I like very much. I don't want her to sound like a wuss.

Modifié par Jackal904, 23 février 2010 - 01:41 .

[yuncas]

dsasxa wrote...

I don't like her voice, not in this game. She has a violent voice, almost constantly yelling, and when she is acting on a more suave voice, she sounds like a little girl. And she always puts the accent on wrong words in a conversation.
On other hand, Mark Meer sounds like a southern USA farmer.

WHAT? Have you ever heard a southerner talk? Maybe southern Canada, not America.

[Terraneaux]

yuncas wrote...

WHAT? Have you ever heard a southerner talk? Maybe southern Canada, not America.

Seconding this.  Meer has a (subtle) Canadian accent.  He is *not* Southern.  

I think part of what may be throwing people off about these characters is that when the VA's were told about the character they'd be voicing, probably one of the first words was 'soldier.'  Now, it's not a truth irl, but in fiction, the ideal for soldiers is usually the stoic, cool-headed type, so I'm guessing that's what the VA's were going through with the character.  Truth be told, I think Hale succeeds better than Meer overall, as she keeps her character sounding military and professional but there seems to be a bit more emotion in there.  OTOH, some of the delivery on Shepard's Renegade lines by Meer is just awesome.  For me, the choice was pretty clear: Paragon femshep, Renegae manshep.

[Hellsteeth30]

I can't stand Hale in this game, she sounds like she's downed an entire bottle of steroids shortly after being told her favourite cat died, even when she's being all nice and everything she sounds like she's off to fight an army of Krogan.



As for Marky Mark Meer, he's just flat and does anyone notice he always asks questions in exactly the same way? He sounds like he's starting a fresh conversation every sentence.

[Aisynia]

OfTheFaintSmile wrote...

Everyone else's voice acting in the game is very very good (guest celebrity actors like Sheen for TIM and Carrie ann moss for Aria) but maleshep and femshep could have been way better. I think if Bioware put me on I would do really good voice acting for them hehehe

yah but generally femshep is best for paragon lines and maleshep is best for renegade lines ("Ill cut your balls off and sell 'em to a krogan!")

Are you kidding me? Femshep is WAY better for the vast majority of renegade lines.

She gets that tone of voice I would expect from my mother if I did something bad. It's ****ing frightening.

Modifié par Aisynia, 23 février 2010 - 02:22 .

[dsasxa]

yuncas wrote...

dsasxa wrote...

I don't like her voice, not in this game. She has a violent voice, almost constantly yelling, and when she is acting on a more suave voice, she sounds like a little girl. And she always puts the accent on wrong words in a conversation.
On other hand, Mark Meer sounds like a southern USA farmer.

WHAT? Have you ever heard a southerner talk? Maybe southern Canada, not America.

Actually, that accent was more persistent in the first Mass Effect. He sounds like a redneck.

[addiction21]

dsasxa wrote...

yuncas wrote...

dsasxa wrote...

I don't like her voice, not in this game. She has a violent voice, almost constantly yelling, and when she is acting on a more suave voice, she sounds like a little girl. And she always puts the accent on wrong words in a conversation.
On other hand, Mark Meer sounds like a southern USA farmer.

WHAT? Have you ever heard a southerner talk? Maybe southern Canada, not America.

Actually, that accent was more persistent in the first Mass Effect. He sounds like a redneck.

No on both the southerner and redneck sounding. NO not one little itty bitty bit. Some of you need to go get your hearing checked. Thats not said in a mean why I really think some of you out there have some ear damage or problems that need to be checked out.

Modifié par addiction21, 23 février 2010 - 03:02 .

[yuncas]

dsasxa where the hell do you live?

[yummysoap]

The one time I played a femshep in ME1 sounded like she was forcing her voice to be several tones lower, and as a result sounded like some mumbly angry dribble. It reminded me of when I was seven years old and a telemarketer would call, and I'd pretend to be an adult offering careful consideration to every question they asked. I never convinced one of them.



There's no doubt that Maleshep has a monotone, but I just f*cking love it. I wouldn't have him any other way. His monotone makes the character for me. There's nothing more hilarious than hearing his sarcasm. Plus, I think he did certain emotional lines very well in ME2 - the "Well, if you want we could go back and get you exiled" + basically the entire Tali consolation had more tone variance than people give him credit for, and it sounded very sincere.

[corebit]

I found Jennifer Hale's performance this time around not as strong as she did in ME1, and her romantic lines were sometimes cringe-worthy, but she is still miles better than Meer. The voice acting is why I can't stand playing ManShep for more than a few minutes. Meer's voice lack so much force and conviction when compared to Hale's, it's only a couple steps away from reading the lines out!

As for people saying FemShep is not suited for Renegade lines, WTH? Have you even played Renegade FemShep? I have never felt she spoke those lines with anger, but rather with authority as a grizzled military commander should speak.

[corebit]

Fact of the matter is, some people will always consider Meer's ManShep to be their "official" Shepard, and some people like me will always consider Hale's FemShep to represent our Shepard.
You will never change anyone's opinions about it. To me Hale's voice >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Meer's.

[Terraneaux]

Aisynia wrote...

Are you kidding me? Femshep is WAY better for the vast majority of renegade lines.

She gets that tone of voice I would expect from my mother if I did something bad. It's ****ing frightening.

I disagree.  Meer's renegade lines gave off that ring of being simultaneously angry at the universe and gleeful at causing the destruction and pain he was about to inflict.  I'm not saying that Hale's Renegade lines weren't good, just that Meer's were better.  Paragon/neutral Meer<Renegade Hale<Paragon/neutral Hale=Renegade Meer

[yummysoap]

corebit wrote...

Fact of the matter is, some people will always consider Meer's ManShep to be their "official" Shepard, and some people like me will always consider Hale's FemShep to represent our Shepard.

bscly.

[dsasxa]

There were some dialogs on ME1 where Mark Meer sounded very weird. I'm not saying he always talked like that.

[Inhuman one]

Lets not forget that voicing a player voice in a game where you can create your own character to an extend is an impossible task.



Whatever the performance would have been, there would be no pleasing people. No voice could ever fit all possible ideals of what kind of person Shepard would be in the game.



Even if it was Gerard Butler, Russel Crowe, Viggo Mortensen, Angelina Jolie or Uma Thurman voicing Shepard.

[KainrycKarr]

Neither were bad. Meer has some wierd moments where his voice/tone don't quite fit, but overall does a very good job.



Hale is, again, good at the actual acting...but the tone of her voice just drives me insane. The forumite who compared to Christian Bale's Batman voice was dead on the money.



My only complaint with Hale is she just seemed to try way too hard to sound mean and tough.