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[Kordras]

I hate that everyone who likes Tali gets lumped into the over-obsessive 'life-sized-doll' insanity.

[Cutlass Jack]

jtav wrote...

24? Well that makes it a bit better. She reads much younger. I thought she was 20 or so.

She wasn't even that young in ME1. Nothing creepy at all.

[marshalleck]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

77boy84 wrote...

That, and if you play a renegade shepard, tali's crush turns into a weird obsession with abusive guys.

Well that's how every romance plays out. Don't get me started on the freakshow that is Liara in ME1.

Actually, could you expand on this?  I could use a good laugh at Liara's expense.

I'd rather not get mauled by the disgruntled Liara lurkers. Suffice to say, she presents herself as a doormat to be walked all over by Shepard in the first game. And then with the constant swooning and "your mind is so powerful Shepard, take me now!"

[Jobrill]

Kordras wrote...

I hate that everyone who likes Tali gets lumped into the over-obsessive 'life-sized-doll' insanity.

You and me both, buddy. I like Tali as a character, and she's my favorite romance, but I'm not sitting here pining for her IRL or anything. I just like her. And I do not feel especially creepy for that.

[ToshiStation38]

Jobrill wrote...

Kordras wrote...

I hate that everyone who likes Tali gets lumped into the over-obsessive 'life-sized-doll' insanity.

You and me both, buddy. I like Tali as a character, and she's my favorite romance, but I'm not sitting here pining for her IRL or anything. I just like her. And I do not feel especially creepy for that.

Shouldn't you be off making another Tali doll?

[Canned Bullets]

lltoon wrote...

Disturbing?

Whatever do you mean?

Looks like an idea for ME2 merchandise, a Tali blowup doll. But yeah it just seems that Tali has a crush on Shepard.

[RayneMoon]

Yeah 24 and 31 isn't that bad.

Then again I don't know if Shepard is really 31, I mean your body is rebuilt

to be that of a 29 year old and you didn't mature any in the past 2 years because

you were unconscious... So 29-31 with a 24 year old isn't bad.

[ToshiStation38]

RayneMoon wrote...

Yeah 24 and 31 isn't that bad.
Then again I don't know if Shepard is really 31, I mean your body is rebuilt
to be that of a 29 year old and you didn't mature any in the past 2 years because
you were unconscious... So 29-31 with a 24 year old isn't bad.

People should just look at it from a maturity point of view.

As someone said, Tali is mature enough to understand her feelings and choose who she wants to be with.

[RighteousRage]

I thought Tali was supposed to be 24, also Shepard has been dead since he was 29, so yeah

RayneMoon wrote...

Yeah 24 and 31 isn't that bad.
Then again I don't know if Shepard is really 31, I mean your body is rebuilt
to be that of a 29 year old and you didn't mature any in the past 2 years because
you were unconscious... So 29-31 with a 24 year old isn't bad.

Yes, this. Besides this, Shepard (paragon Shepard at least) is like a million times more mature than even 1000 year old people in the ME universe so I guess you have to make some concessions at some point

Modifié par RighteousRage, 21 février 2010 - 04:57 .

[SkywardDescent]

KainrycKarr wrote...

jtav wrote...

chem light wrote...

You could say the same of Liara taking advantage of you in the first game...that crafty cougar.

Not really. Liara's "barely more than a child:" the asari equivalent of a teenager.

Doesn't that make the Liara relationship even WORSE in your logic?

Tali is twenty-four in Mass Effect 2.

Shepard is...29 in ME, right? So 31 in ME2.

24 and 31. That seriously isn't that bad. My father is ten years older than my mother. my mother is over 15 years older than her boyfriend.

Keep in mind, he was dead for two years and his body was kept preserved.
Technically, he didn't age.

[Landline]

Honestly, I found nothing about the 'mance creepy, just cute and sweet.



Besides, Tali comes on to him.

[ToshiStation38]

SkywardDescent wrote...

Keep in mind, he was dead for two years and his body was kept preserved.
Technically, he didn't age.

I wouldn't be surprised if Lazarus has increased Shepard's life expectancy, or that he's actually physically younger.

As I said though, age should have nothing to do with it.

[RighteousRage]

What I find creepier is that Shepard was probably 100% dead, including brain death, meaning that the character you play as is not actually Shepard but a Shepard zombie or robot

[Nightwriter]

RighteousRage wrote...

What I find creepier is that Shepard was probably 100% dead, including brain death, meaning that the character you play as is not actually Shepard but a Shepard zombie or robot

So Tali is a necrophiliac.

Isn't that just peaches.

[cvantez]

GenericPlayer2 wrote...

I haven't romanced her myself, but I don't see an issue with people who do. You saved her from thugs on the Citadel, completed her pilgrimage for her, helped her on Freedom's Progress, saved her again on Haelstrom, concealed the truth about her father and (possibly) got her acquitted at her trial. If she doesn't put out after all that, it would be creepy!

Mature relationships aren't based on "putting out" because someone's done something for you. It's all about mutual respect and intimacy between two equal and consenting partners. Some men ( "Nice Guys ™") believe that doing nice things for women makes them entitled to get in their pants.  That sense of entitlement and ownership is what I would consider creepy.

Modifié par cvantez, 21 février 2010 - 05:29 .

[CrassKid]

I didn't find anything creepy about the Tali romance. Yeah sure she's a Shepard fangirl, but Shep and Tali have been through a lot together so it's understandable.

[Nightwriter]

cvantez wrote...

GenericPlayer2 wrote...

I haven't romanced her myself, but I don't see an issue with people who do. You saved her from thugs on the Citadel, completed her pilgrimage for her, helped her on Freedom's Progress, saved her again on Haelstrom, concealed the truth about her father and (possibly) got her acquitted at her trial. If she doesn't put out after all that, it would be creepy!

Mature relationships aren't based on "putting out" because someone's done something for you. It's all about mutual respect and intimacy between two equal and consenting partners. Some men ( "Nice Guys ™") believe that doing nice things for women makes them entitled to get in their pants.  That sense of entitlement and ownership is what I would consider creepy.

QFT.

Righteous post. Couldn't have said it better.

[trigger2kill1]

Ah hell since no-one has said it before I'll say it now. She or they are all in enviromental suits correct? Well she could have a "vestigial" third leg and well the thought of that just gives my shep the creeps!

[didymos1120]

ToshiStation38 wrote...
She was considered an adolescent by quarian standards in ME 1.

No, not really.  The pilgrimage is more like your first "official" adult act.  I.e., you have to have reached adulthood to even be sent on one, normally. 

[badrobot2]

trigger2kill1 wrote...

Ah hell since no-one has said it before I'll say it now. She or they are all in enviromental suits correct? Well she could have a "vestigial" third leg and well the thought of that just gives my shep the creeps!

This makes no sense.

[RighteousRage]

All of the LIs in ME are of roughly the same proportionate age/maturity

[ToshiStation38]

didymos1120 wrote...

ToshiStation38 wrote...
She was considered an adolescent by quarian standards in ME 1.

No, not really.  The pilgrimage is more like your first "official" adult act.  I.e., you have to have reached adulthood to even be sent on one, normally. 

Tali's name in the first game is Tali'Zorah Nar Rayya. "Nar" means "child of". I always figured that the Pilgrimage is basically your right of passage into adulthood. After the completion of the pilgrimage they are then considered adults.

But whatever floats your boat, I guess.

[GodWood]

Tali is 24, Shepard is 29 (31 if you include the years he was in stasis)

Thats not a massive age gap.

[casedawgz]

Hey, if its okay for Billy Joel to run around having sex with girls younger than Tali, its okay for a 31 year old to have sex with Tali.

[DemonGunslinger]

Maybe I didn't pay that close attention but it felt like to me that Tali may have just been a bit innocent in the field of romance and lovemaking. I'm not saying she was dumb to how to do what or anything but just that she hadn't personally ever gotten involved with someone. But the hardcore people would have to clarify that part.



It would make sense with how she stumbles around Shepard. That and the crush thing, lol.