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[mandalore18]

I think Bioware suspects that many will just start the game with a new warden. Which is sad becuase she is my favroite charcter in Dragon Age. Sad just sad

[Diogo Gomez]

I never played with leliana because I never enter the taavern I was nedded to got her, and I'm not that type of people that turns back the all game just because he missed a charatcher, but what I saw form her in videos and stuff she sounded really cool.

[WilliamShatner]

Farewell Leliana

Without you the game will suck

You were cut out

So they could make a quick buck

Yet another beloved companion

Suddenly disappears

But farewell Leliana

The fans do not matter

Instead we have Oghren

[Zusia]

Unfortunately it seems we're up against writers who are bored with characters they've created and sold us on. Oghren being the only exception <I guess they have a weakness for juvenile bathroom humor.> I mean for cripe sake not even dog returns? But hey we get phat loot and more levels so who cares about the bonds we formed and decisions we've made right? You know the everything is disposable mentality works in the pig trough that is the world of MMO's it must work here too right?

[OldMan91]

Oh Leli,

You're so funny,

You're like a hanky

When my nose is runny!

[Morroian]

If DA2 is with a whole new character then I don't mind not seeing her again. If we can continue our character from DAO and DAA and we don't get her in DA2 then I will be mightily disappointed.



OTOH I understand why she isn't in DAA and so long as my romance is still alive I don't mind so much that she isn't there.

[GearRust]

GearRust wrote...

Actually, if Bioware was being fair, then why not allow us to choose who comes back (except Morrigan and Allister). They can still use the old models and with the entire "Who will you adventure with after the stopping of the Blight" thing, it should be perfectly reasonable to gain the one who you promised to travel with.

I think it's a good Idea, but then again Bioware has the final say, and they also have a limited budget.

OH, not only Morrigan and Allister, but also Sten, Wynne, and Shale as well. The only ones who hinted at joining or rejoining the Warden was Leliana, Zevran, Ogrhen, and Dog.

Modifié par GearRust, 03 mars 2010 - 08:59 .

[JamieCOTC]

Uberdubie wrote...

Wishpig wrote...

Shouldn't have expected her to come back... if you knew bioware games you know she prob wouldn't.

If I romanced her and  it's plainly said at the end of the game that we stayed together... what valid reason is there that I don't expect to see her at my side only a handfull of months later?

On top of that, it makes no sense they'd randomly kill-off such an interesting multidimensional character like Leliana, yet leave us with a predictable, drunken drawf.   I was amused by him at times, but his act got old real fast with me.

Guess I should hop on the band-wagon and suddenly start loving Oghren... since, you know, we don't really have a choice in the matter.

Leliana is mentioned to have a cameo in this http://ps3.ign.com/a...1058714p2.html' class='bbc_url' title='Lien externe' rel='nofollow external'>article. So, hopefully some explination will be involved. 

[kingjezza]

Leliana is a same sex romance option though, if as a woman i've some how managed to knock her up there's going to be some serious questions that need answering

Modifié par kingjezza, 04 mars 2010 - 06:04 .

[kingjezza]

Haha yes, exactly that!



I would find that sneaky little elf if it's the last thing I do though.

[Dawidek123]

No Leliana No Romance ehh i hope they will fix it in next Expansion Pack

[DionKnight]

Not wanting to get all soft and mushy here but on some games (only the good ones) I find myself growing accustomed to the presence of some NPC characters and find subsequent games more interesting when party members can grow and develop like the main character.

The constant parade of new characters {"Um, hello... and what are you doing in my camp?"} and just popping in and out of regions and relationships with little or no relation to the previous game, sort of bugs me, and at least for me detracts from my interest in purchasing sequels.

I mean if you are going to have to start over in a new region and leave all the previous NPC and areas behind forever with no explanation other than 'you can't do that anymore', I mean, you might as well go shopping for a new game as in essence this is what you're getting with any unattached, or remotely attached sequels isn't it?

IMO if Bioware wants to develop a following, hie back to the example of NWN or games like that where you not only had new characters but familar faces as well, (I could even ask for a saved slot for some NPC's like the saved main character slot so that core or select NPC's can grow progress and throughout subsequent story lines,)  then it would seem more like a continuing journey and less like a completely different game... among a host of other completely different games out there.

~just my two cents anyway~

[JamieCOTC]

WilliamShatner wrote...

Farewell Leliana
Without you the game will suck
You were cut out
So they could make a quick buck
Yet another beloved companion
Suddenly disappears
But farewell Leliana
The fans do not matter
Instead we have Oghren

You could almost put this to the tune of Dylan's "Farewell Angelina" 

[Booglarize]

Vanderbilt_Grad wrote...

Meh, I may not know most recent Bio games well ... but I strongly remember BGII.  Romances continued in the BGII expansion ToB.  Given that DA:O was billed as the "spiritual successor" of BGII, I kind of expected it here as well.  Further Bio themselves implied that the expansion would have romance in a roundabout way with the epilogs.  Several endings have Zev & Lel explicity helping your Warden rebuild the order.  What is Awakenings about?  Rebuilding the Order.

All that said I don't expect to see Leliana again anymore.  I will miss that voice.

This. Perhaps if more people had played that game (and its expansion), they'd know why so many longtime fans of Bioware feel disappointed (and a little betrayed, even) due to the way romances are being treated in this expansion. 

It kind of makes sense for Morrigan not to return, and since I romanced her in my main playthrough, I'm (relatively) alright with that since the in-game justification sort of holds water. But I fully  empathize with people who romanced Leliana or Zevran and are now feeling a tad gipped, especially after those epilogues.  

[Booglarize]

Eli-da-Mage wrote...

I bet if you romanced her then she wont come along and you ask why not and she tells you shes pregnant

If that's so, I wonder what Zevran's excuse will be. 

[Spitz6860]

good bye annoying french accent... no offense

[Hrodberht]

My character shall go through Awakening asking every person he encounters "What have you done with Leliana?", and when they play dumb, cut them into little pieces.

[Booglarize]

scyphozoa wrote...

I see the word "Betray" used a lot regarding DA love interests and their return in Awakenings. Was DAO ever marketed as a persistent series of games the way that Mass Effect was? I know ME was intentionally marketed from day 1 as a persistent trilogy.

Well, as a poster above mentioned, it was marketed specifically as "the spiritual successor of BioWare's popular Baldur's Gate series of games" - it's right there on the short game description on these forums. So, my take is that it's a tad misleading to try ride on the coattails of a great series like that if you're going leave out something that contributed to its greatness. 

[WilliamShatner]

scyphozoa wrote...

I see the word "Betray" used a lot regarding DA love interests and their return in Awakenings. Was DAO ever marketed as a persistent series of games the way that Mass Effect was? I know ME was intentionally marketed from day 1 as a persistent trilogy.

As far as I know, the only justification for anyone thinking that love interests would be returning is because Mass Effect did it or because the epilogue of DAO says that "x and y lived happily ever after".

DAO had a 25 million dollar marketing campaign, during which they had ample opportunity to tell us about how the decisions we make in DAO would be persistent and import into the franchise, clearly no announcements were made.  So why is there any confusion?

I didn't expect to see them in the sequel, but this is an expansion pack that requires the original game.  It should have been much easier to bring back the original companions as squad mates for an expansion knowing that 100% of the people who play that game have the original rather than putting them in a sequel that has to cater  to a new audience.  I now have zero hope of ever seeing Leliana again apart from maybe a crappy Mass Effect 2-style cameo.  And that is really, really, really sad.

[Gerudan]

WilliamShatner wrote...
I didn't expect to see them in the sequel, but this is an expansion pack that requires the original game.  It should have been much easier to bring back the original companions as squad mates for an expansion knowing that 100% of the people who play that game have the original rather than putting them in a sequel that has to cater  to a new audience.  I now have zero hope of ever seeing Leliana again apart from maybe a crappy Mass Effect 2-style cameo.  And that is really, really, really sad.

Yep, I guess Bioware simply underestimates, how much people like the groupmembers. This whole "new groupmembers, new storys" thing is just stupid, most players would rather get to know the old ones better. 

I really think about not to buy the expansion because of this. <_<

[screwoffreg]

Considering DA isn't meant to be a series like Mass Effect, with the same character, I hope our current characters get SOME closure for their romances. Maybe a Throne of Bhaal like expansion...