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[Jimbe2693]

XxTaLoNxX wrote...

I have to apologize to the whole thread and community, I really wasn't trying to make a racist statement and that is what everyone focused on. Please for the sake of the thread let's concentrate on the rest of my points and I will edit my first post.

Eh don't worry about, there's a difference between genuine racism and a poor choice of words.

[Jimbe2693]

"Working with you is great opportunity to do something that matters"
That line just made me want to puke for some reason.

Modifié par Jimbe2693, 21 février 2010 - 04:23 .

[Ryzaki]

XxTaLoNxX wrote...
To
be fair, I do act like the sterotypical black person, I never said I
didn't. I talk black, I walk black, hell, I am even black in the sack
baby! Lol. (that was a joke by the way) What I did say though I
apologized for and asked everyone to move on since I owned up to my
mistake. I was out of line.

My other points though I still stand by, he is absolutely worthless.

Oh its fine. I'm just getting sick of morons telling me I act white.

Anyways. Jacob is lame. :innocent: Very sexy but still boring.

[Jalem001]

Speaking as a black person:

I hope that by that point in history we've advanced to the point where there are no black traits (aside from a hatred of the cold. Damn cold). Just people having traits.

Now moving on:

I like Jacob. You can tell he idolizes Shepard because he's the kind of person Jacob wants to be. He borders on cynicism, but its more of a jaded thing. People aren't trustworthy, and Cerberus plays games that he doesn't find amusing. Its clearly had an effect on him. Ultimate he prefers to be direct. He speaks his mind, calls it how he sees it, and he doesn't appreciate manipulation, bureaucracy, or politics. Get the job done.

Jacob is selfless, confident, direct, intelligent, loyal to those who earn it, and experienced.

He's also jaded and a bit quick to act (Contrasted by Miranda's calculating nature).

Jacob is an excellent character, but Bioware didn't put nearly enough into his dialogue. One of the best loyalty missions.

Modifié par Jalem001, 21 février 2010 - 04:24 .

[Karl45]

XxTaLoNxX wrote...

Karl45 wrote...

I don't see what's wrong with his
character or personality. He's my 2nd favorite behind Garrus. I don't
know what acting like a "****" consists of, but I don't think
volunteering for a suicide missions is in that description...and he
only has a problem with Legion as I recall.

He has a problem with;

Thane
Grunt
Samara
Jack
Tali

If
you don't believe me then replay those missions. He also has daddy
issues and when you talk to TIM and come out of the holo-conference he
is standing there and asks if we are really going to go after the
collectors and the expression on his face is what I can only read as
terror. Not to mention he can't please Miranda... seriously what kind
of man is he?

And to be fair, "Suicide Bombers" volunteer for suicide missions all the time and are the biggest cowards in ANY universe.

Im pretty sure Tali had a problem with him actually. Miranda was the one complaining about Grunt, Jacob seemed to not care either way(he just shrugged). I don't remember him say anything bad about Samara(maybe i need to replay that mission). Jack/Thane/Legion are all understandable concerns.

Oh and the suicide bomb comment is just dumb. He is volunteering to give his life to save humanity...that like comparing any who is willing to sacrifice their lives to suicide bombers.

Modifié par Karl45, 21 février 2010 - 04:27 .

[Tazzmission]

jacob reminds me of a paranoid conspiracy theorist.. hes always woa do we trust so and so? hes great in battle but now mordin is a whiney charachter

[sp8cemonkey83]

I think your tactical appraisal of Jacob is a bit off.



Skill wise he has a nice blend. I prefer Jacob on missions over Grunt because he can provide distraction with Pull (which also helps set up Biotic Combos). Grunt does have advantages (A bit more health, regen, and Claymore) which make him a bit tougher to kill... and that makes him a great ally for some, but that doesn't mean Jacob doesn't have his uses.



Jack has a lot of these same qualities as well, however she's a bit squishy compared to Jacob and Grunt who have defensive boost.



Really it all depends on play style. If you want a deadly tank, send Grunt. If you want Biotic Distraction with a nice ammo power, bring Jack. If you want someone in the middle, Jacob is your man ;D

[Acero Azul]

gmartin40 wrote...

Real Marines!! This is going to be me in 7 months. Everyone hope I make it. Boot Camp Oct. 15th!!!

dude you are going to make it we will see you in 6 months and you will have a story to tell us

[Your Synthetic Superior]

XxTaLoNxX wrote...

To
be fair, I do act like the sterotypical black person, I never said I
didn't. I talk black, I walk black, hell, I am even black in the sack
baby! Lol. (that was a joke by the way) What I did say though I
apologized for and asked everyone to move on since I owned up to my
mistake. I was out of line.

My other points though I still stand by, he is absolutely worthless.

If that's true, how come you can read and write? Do black people even have computers???

[Tazzmission]

Your Synthetic Superior wrote...

XxTaLoNxX wrote...

To
be fair, I do act like the sterotypical black person, I never said I
didn't. I talk black, I walk black, hell, I am even black in the sack
baby! Lol. (that was a joke by the way) What I did say though I
apologized for and asked everyone to move on since I owned up to my
mistake. I was out of line.

My other points though I still stand by, he is absolutely worthless.

If that's true, how come you can read and write? Do black people even have computers???

ok man thats just ignorant.

[MassEffect762]

gmartin40 wrote...

Real Marines!! This is going to be me in 7 months. Everyone hope I make it. Boot Camp Oct. 15th!!!

I advice you to give it your all and try and remain of high spirits. Make the most of it. I can tell you now that the training is mostly mental and you should do fine as long as you remain positive.

Don't know what M.O.S. you chose, they're not all the same but you will be a rifleman above all else first.

Good luck and Semper Fi.

Jacob....Jacob...I'll admit I hardly used him but that had more to do with the fact that I loved using my alien squad mates more.

[kaff33nd]

Acero Azul wrote...

dude you are going to make it we will see you in 6 months and you will have a story to tell us

Unless you die. But you might not. Still...

[FataliTensei]

Jacob is boring and useless to me

[vhatever]

He's a decent partner early on for biotics with warp. You can take him and jack and just constantly lift/warp. He's decent for vanguards, too, who don't have the points early on to waste on incindiary. He doesn't really belong in any late-game teams however.



Think you forgot and proudly demonstrate the black trait "full of BS".

[Ninja Mage]

I didn't like Jacob at first but I warmed up to him. He has alot of honor and bravery

[Snowraptor]

XxTaLoNxX wrote...

The more I play ME2 the more I hate this lame excuss for a character. I
mean for one he starts off expecting you to immendiately trust him but
he gives no trust to anybody else. Everytime I recruit someone he gets
negative and has an attitude that makes me just want to punch him in
his hypocritical mouth.

Beyond that, he is just a dry character that doesn't possess any level of personality
beyond being a complete **** with daddy issues.

Moving past even that, tactically his
skills are worthless. For Incendiary Ammo + Shotgun he is nothing
compared to Grunt, as a tank with Barrier (shield+) he is nothing
compared to me, and as a biotic with Pull... well Jack is a better
option because with her upgrade and her character-skill cooldown +
party biotic cooldown she can lockdown a whole group of mobs
indefinately while still throwing shockwaves and still possessing the
best ammo skill in the game.

Seriously what effin' use is Jacob beyond pissing me off after every recruitment mission?

Funny that is exactly what i think of miranda, a useless human ****

[CrassKid]

XxTaLoNxX wrote...

He has a problem with;

Thane
Grunt
Samara
Jack
Tali

If
you don't believe me then replay those missions. He also has daddy
issues and when you talk to TIM and come out of the holo-conference he
is standing there and asks if we are really going to go after the
collectors and the expression on his face is what I can only read as
terror. Not to mention he can't please Miranda... seriously what kind
of man is he?

And to be fair, "Suicide Bombers" volunteer for suicide missions all the time and are the biggest cowards in ANY universe.

Huh? If I recall correctly, he compliments Tali and Samara after you recruit them. Also, I don't think he's in the briefing room after you recruit Jack (it's only Shepard, Jack, and Miranda). I don't remember him saying anything about Grunt, although Miranda, Kelly, Kenneth, and Gabby all seem troubled by Grunt's prescence (and understandably so). The only recruitment he voices concerns about is Thane, and Shepard can either support his concerns or dismiss them. I'll check again on the next playthrough, but I'm pretty sure Thane is the only one he distrusts/antagonizes.

I didn't interpret his loyalty arc as 'daddy issues', especially when compared to Miranda's arc or Liara's trouble with Benezia from ME1. He also didn't seek out the intel on the Gurnsback distress call (Miranda did) and had long since parted ways with his dad.

Yeah, he did seem worried about going through the Omega 4 relay, but considering that he's just a soldier I can't blame him. He's not genetically engineered to be perfect, raised and tortured to become a super-biotic, a 1000 year old space paladin, a Krogan, an unkillable merc, or like any of the other super beings on the team. Ashley was in a similar situation during ME1 and mentioned how she felt unneeded in the battle against Sovereign.

As for not being able to please Miranda, meh. You seem to assume that this means he's lousy in bed. Maybe. I don't really care. After going through Miranda's romance I get the feeling that she requires a exceptional individual, like Shepard. I think Jacob's statement had less to do with sex and more to do with accomplishments.

[diskoh]

Jacob really is an ass. His romance is the worst in the game. He is a jerk to you in every conversation, shows no respect, and suddenly you start flirting with each other for no reason.



When he says his jackass "I'm not big on forcing these talks" I wish there was a renegade option to say "I didn't ask your opinion, fall in line or go out the nearest airlock."

[diskoh]

CrassKid wrote...

Huh? If I recall correctly, he compliments Tali

He told Tali to make sure she says hi to the ship's AI. That is an incredibley spiteful thing to say to a quarian.

[Your Synthetic Superior]

XxTaLoNxX wrote...

@vhatever; That last comment was full of racism and is overtly offensive. But that aside, he becomes worthless as soon as you either get Garrus or Mordin, so it's not even a late-game uselessness it's an early to late-game problem.

It's OK, she's black.