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[vhatever]

XxTaLoNxX wrote...

@vhatever; That last comment was full of racism and is overtly offensive. But that aside, he becomes worthless as soon as you either get Garrus or Mordin, so it's not even a late-game uselessness it's an early to late-game problem.

Garrus sucks early game. Incindiary will help you on horizon, the only really hard early mission.

And I LOL at the racism claim, mister "black traits". ROFLMAO.

Take your medicine, 

[lisakover]

Ryzaki wrote...

Jimbe2693 wrote...

I found tali useless. All she has is that combat drone. Legion has a drone, and better weapons.

For christ's sakes I AM BLACK! He doesn't act like a black person!

Black people all act the same?

Oh god THIS. I'm black and I act nothing like that sterotypical black person in the media.

And yes Jacob is BORING and lame. That has nothing to do with his race and everything to do with his character.

He does have a nice ass though.

You sound...Angry.

[Rieverre]

Actually, he's not that bad. Both from a storyline perspective and from the gameplay one. For the former, BW did a good job of portraying someone who soldiers on even when the level of **** they've gotten themselves into is now far over their heads. I think the whole point of him is that he's _not_ Shepard, not ridiculously competent, but still manages to get things done despite that. Also, I think his loyalty mission shows that, yes, all things considered he is rather well adjusted.



Gameplay-wise ... well, there _are_ no bad characters, only bad ways to use them. Jacob isn't the tank Grunt is, and he doesn't dish out the kind of damage Legion or Garrus do with firearms, but he's very much a team player. It's up to you to find him the kind of setup that gives the best synergy. Personally, I give him Squad Incendiary and use him with Miranda or Thane for the Warp explosion combo. The first is a lot more useful than it sounds for any weapon with decent rate of fire - IMO, against organics, far more useful than Jack's Warp Ammo, and pretty damn good against armored mechs too. The second ... my opening salvo of almost any engagement is to use Shep to take care of one mook's defense, then hit the guy with Pull and Unstable Warp and follow up with whatever choice of attack the Shepard's got going at the time. It's a fairly solid opener, and if mooks get stripped of defenses by the explosion and get set on fire? Hey, bonus.



Some characters just work better with certain others, or with Shep. Others work equally well regardless of team combo (Miranda, Tali, Legion, Grunt).

[Ryzaki]

lisakover wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Jimbe2693 wrote...

I found tali useless. All she has is that combat drone. Legion has a drone, and better weapons.

For christ's sakes I AM BLACK! He doesn't act like a black person!

Black people all act the same?

Oh god THIS. I'm black and I act nothing like that sterotypical black person in the media.

And yes Jacob is BORING and lame. That has nothing to do with his race and everything to do with his character.

He does have a nice ass though.

You sound...Angry.

Diary of a mad black woman? 

Hey I can dig it. Medea for the win!

[DrunkenGoon]

I actually like Jacob.. Yea some of his lines are a little annoying at times but I thought he was pretty cool guy.. As far as tactically speaking I'm not sure and honestly I don't pay that much attention to it.. Except for maybe the edge of synthetic/organic enemies.

[Cris Shepard]

Not being racist or anything but I agree completely with the black guy, Jacob was basically Carlton from fresh prince.. I never use him, he was the one I sent with the crew during the suicide mission lol, he was the weakest link..

[CrassKid]

diskoh wrote...

CrassKid wrote...

Huh? If I recall correctly, he compliments Tali

He told Tali to make sure she says hi to the ship's AI. That is an incredibley spiteful thing to say to a quarian.

See, I interpreted that entire conversation as a joke about how Cerberus is constantly doing the same careless experiments that others before them have done and caused galactic disasters. Tali reminds Shepard that Cerberus is the group that thought creating an army of Thorian creepers and Rachni was good idea, then Jacob (a Cerberus operative) brings up the ship's AI. Only a Quarian can truly understand how dangerous an AI is and why it's not a good idea to intentionally make one, therefore it adds to the joke - Cerberus is always performing stupid, galaxy-endagering experiments.

Also, I recall the Quarian indentured servant on Illium was hoping to get work as an AI specialist. Admiral Xen seems anxious to exploit her peoples talents with tech and AI. I don't think Quarians are as hyper-sensitive about AIs as many believe.

[CrassKid]

Cris Shepard wrote...

Not being racist or anything but I agree completely with the black guy, Jacob was basically Carlton from fresh prince.. I never use him, he was the one I sent with the crew during the suicide mission lol, he was the weakest link..

BWAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA. I demand BW release DLC that allows Jacob to the Carlton dance like how Legion does the robot.

[vhatever]

Ya, pretty "rascist", whatever the hell that is. Sniper rifle sucks until you get the viper. You only really need one person with overload, a completely useless skill on horizon. I'm a blakc person too, huh? LOL.



You are so sad, pathetic, and predictable.

[Hulk Hsieh]

Well, I agree that he's weak in combat compared to most NPCs.

[vhatever]

XxTaLoNxX wrote...

vhatever wrote...

Think you forgot and proudly demonstrate the black trait "full of BS".

How is that not racist? And your calling me sad, pathetic and predictable. You are nothing short of scum.

I am man enough to admit that I carelessly misphrased what I meant and apologized. You have made no attempt and have said the most obscene and offensive thing in this entire thread. F*** YOU! YOU F***ING F****!

I think your genentic bravery and confidence has gotten the better of you.

[phordicus]

personality aside (which i like. besides garrus i would trust jacob to have my back more than anyone else), jacob's combat aspects are superceded by everyone else. he has no niche or specialization that makes him worth bringing on any mission unless it's so easy you don't need to optimize squadmates.

[vhatever]

That's "rascist" troll scum, to you,

If you bothered to read my teammate rankings , I actually have jacob at the bottom of it, largely because he doesn't fit into any late game teams. Early on he can be useful in several teams, much more so than Jack. . Mordin, Garrus, and Jack are all also mediocre-to-poor late game teamates unless you use one of their ammo skills.

So you are upset Jacob isn't Miranda. Boo freakin hoo.

Modifié par vhatever, 21 février 2010 - 06:42 .

[Rieverre]

Anyone with a Squad Ammo skill is a force multiplier for the squad as a whole. Hell, the only two squadmates I don't have picking Squad Ammo are Grunt and Jack. Grunt because he's better off with points in Fortification and maxed out passive, Jack because Squad Warp is a bit underwhelming. Garrus and Jacob are very nice force multipliers, with the former being better against a wider range of situations and the latter when you're facing organics like the Collectors.



Putting Mordin in with either of them makes for very nice armor-busting capability and husk control. Hell, Jacob and Miranda or Garrus and Mordin are my team of choice for the IFF mission.

[Bob5312]

I was actually disappointed with Jacob's loyalty mission. I felt that it didn't really add anything to his character, and wasn't all that interesting to play. I would put it as the weakest of the loyalty missions after Zaeed's, personally.

His character wasn't all that interesting or even consistent from one scene to the next, his dialogue was usually irritating, and I never used him on missions if I had the choice since his combination of weapons and powers is probably the weakest. I think BioWare only included him to tie in with ME: Galaxy, to be honest, and didn't have a specific role for him in mind either in the story or in combat.

[Astranagant]

XxTaLoNxX wrote...

For christ's sakes I AM BLACK! He doesn't act like a black person!

EDIT: Anyway let's move past that, I feel like I misspoke, and should have known better. For anyone I may have offended by calling black people (like me) brave and driven, then I apologize.

Yeah, who would want to live in a world where the token black guy is capable of self control and speaks clear, proper english at all times? He doesn't even talk about how much he wants watty-melon and grape drink! It's an insult to all of negrodom!

[GodWood]

Yes he is probably my least favourite character, however his loyalty mission is pretty good.

[kraze07]

I actually thought Jacob was pretty cool. All that saluting was kind of annoying though.

[vhatever]

You missed the point. Some groups some characters are better than others. Jacob is better for a wider variety of groups than Jack is early game. You also have to factor in things like "miranda" factor, where she will almost always be one of the teammates for certain classes, often making the third teammate already in grou(loyalty mission) or aa very specific role.



But no, he;'s not a good late game character, and there are other similar characters. But you want him pumped up because of the color of his skin or something?



That's all it comes across to me. he's not a great character and you think the "black character" ahould be great. Maybe you should stop watching so many magic ****** movies holywood likes to vomit out.