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[Magister Lajciak]

Thankfully, EA has become wise on DRM and after some of EA's DRM fiascos in 2008 and 2009, it switched to a very respectable system of multiple DRM solutions, notably (well at least relevant for me) disk checks for physical copies of the game, plus downloadable content (DLC). Kudos to EA on that decision  - it enabled me to buy Dragon Age, an excellent game.

Unfortunately, Ubisoft has decided to move in the opposite direction. Read this and cry: http://www.computera...235596&site=pcg 

Well, I sure won't be buying any Ubisoft games in the future unless they backtrack on this DRM system.

[Zhaosen]

http://social.biowar...3/index/1279347
^2 page thread already

Modifié par Zhaosen, 21 février 2010 - 05:11 .

[Sa Seba]

I feel sorry for the developers that will suffer from that decision, made by unimaginative *************.

Never thought I would say that, but I need to applaud EA for their foresight.



Funny thing is that ubisoft will not admit their failure, but rather blame the low number of sold copies on piracy. There will be lots of people pirating their games that would have bought them if not for the DRM system used here.



/Arrrrhhh

[OH-UP-THIS!]

precisely why I prefer to call them..................Ubeeshaft!

[Zhaosen]

ba dum pish!

[Seagloom]

I have nothing left to add to my opinions on Ubisoft's decision. I will however state that EA's DRM scheme isn't great either. It's just better than limited installations or needing a constant online connection.

Their DLC checks have caused all sorts of bugs; many of which are still unresolved. It also has a similar problem in that if you can't connect to your account when starting up Dragon Age, the game won't let you use your rightfully purchased DLC. Mass Effect 2 is even worse in some ways.

So while I agree EA's approach is leaps ahead of what Ubisoft has planned, it is by no means an ideal DRM solution. Not too mention it has also done nothing to slow down piracy of DLC content.

Modifié par Seagloom, 21 février 2010 - 06:29 .

[Andarthiel_Demigod]

Yea I heard about this plan and fankly not only is it one of the most stupid DRM solutions I've ever heard of but it will cripple their sales dramatically and at the same time I'm sure it will actually encourage more pirates to crack and modify their games to bypass this new system.  I've seen it happen before.
I really really hope the PC Assassin's Creed 2 doesn't have this. My internet connection  is by no means perfect and it can drop out ocassionally (and also it can get shaped if I go over my download limit which will also interefere with the connection and make it unreliable) so this system would make playing Ubi games for me quite annoying and tedious sometimes.

[Sa Seba]

Assassins Creed 2 will have it:

That includes Splinter Cell, Silent Hunter 5, Assassin's Creed 2, Prince of Persia and the newly announced Ghost Recon. "It's hard for us to say, yes, from now until the day that we all die all of our games are going to include this," says their spokesperson, "but most will."

[Fexelea]

Buy Assassin's Creed for a gaming console. It works better (maybe not the graphics but the controls do for sure) and you will actually own the game. You are also free to give it to anyone you want so that they play, or sell it.

[Andarthiel_Demigod]

Fexelea wrote...

Buy Assassin's Creed for a gaming console. It works better (maybe not the graphics but the controls do for sure) and you will actually own the game. You are also free to give it to anyone you want so that they play, or sell it.

I would if I could afford a PS3(I refuse to by a 360 out of prinicpal).

[Fexelea]

At 299 it really isn't that expensive... compared to what the PC costs you.

[DaveTheJackal]

None of it's as bad as steam. At least, with other DRM schemes, you can sell games you don't like.

[Andarthiel_Demigod]

Fexelea wrote...

At 299 it really isn't that expensive... compared to what the PC costs you.

It's far more expensive here in Australia( average price of $599AU or $538US)
Plus I already own a great gaming PC.

Modifié par Andarthiel_Demigod, 21 février 2010 - 02:30 .

[Tyrax Lightning]

Funny you should mention all this. Read this. In this thread, there's possibility of SecureROM being the culprit behind reports of DA:O players that can't get their CPU's to quit being fully maxed out in workload at any point of the game, even the Title Screen.

Noone is ever gonna embrace SecureROM or DRM if it acts as malicious as a Virus. <_<

[Pious_Augustus]

Magister Lajciak wrote...

Thankfully, EA has become wise on DRM and after some of EA's DRM fiascos in 2008 and 2009, it switched to a very respectable system of multiple DRM solutions, notably (well at least relevant for me) disk checks for physical copies of the game, plus downloadable content (DLC). Kudos to EA on that decision  - it enabled me to buy Dragon Age, an excellent game.

Unfortunately, Ubisoft has decided to move in the opposite direction. Read this and cry: http://www.computera...235596&site=pcg 

Well, I sure won't be buying any Ubisoft games in the future unless they backtrack on this DRM system.

You're referring to also Project Ten Dollar which is EA is using to combat privacy and Used Games. Well you can't stop both unless you haver a PS3 (Thankfully the PS3 option to lock games used on one console is not active) if you buy an used game, you won't be able to access the content that came with the game which was free. You'll then have to purchase it.

Also a lot of the free downloads is more a reason to buy the orginal. However I have not bought Mass Effect 2 because of my problems with the Xbox and refusing to really buy games on that console anymore

[Little Paw]

Furthers my theory that the PC will go the way of the dodo for gaming.

When the next consoles come out, even more PC owners will not be able to upgrade.

Now if XBOX made an XBOX PC.....hrmmmmmmmmm!!!!

[Zhaosen]

If the aim of MS is to get an xbox-pc hybrid...why not get a pc again? oh right, coz the pc is too much of an open platform >.>, they dont have a monopoly on service (xbox live)

Modifié par Zhaosen, 21 février 2010 - 04:43 .

[Faust1979]

another reason why I'm not a big PC gamer I don't like DRM

Modifié par Faust1979, 21 février 2010 - 07:30 .

[AngryFrozenWater]

I recently talked with another forum member about this game. I own AC1, but never really liked it. But if I did then I wouldn't be buying AC2 with this kind of DRM. Too bad, I was in the market for Silent Hunter 5, though. It is funny really... I bought UbiSoft's Prince of Persia (the recent version) because it had no DRM. I just bought it to show my support for a game without DRM and posted about it on their forum. It even turned out to be a game I liked. Hehe. But after this kind of DRM I am sure I won't be buying anymore UbiSoft titles.

[Magister Lajciak]

Seagloom wrote...

I have nothing left to add to my opinions on Ubisoft's decision. I will however state that EA's DRM scheme isn't great either. It's just better than limited installations or needing a constant online connection.

Their DLC checks have caused all sorts of bugs; many of which are still unresolved. It also has a similar problem in that if you can't connect to your account when starting up Dragon Age, the game won't let you use your rightfully purchased DLC. Mass Effect 2 is even worse in some ways.

So while I agree EA's approach is leaps ahead of what Ubisoft has planned, it is by no means an ideal DRM solution. Not too mention it has also done nothing to slow down piracy of DLC content.

Fair enough. EA's approach is not an ideal solution, I agree, but it is definitely an acceptable solution for me. My main issue is that I don't want to be on further contact with the publisher/developer/third party after I purchase the game. Hence, I despise online activation, which violates my principle, and EA's current approach does not have that, so I am satisfied. EA still uses DLC as a form of online activation, but it is not required and not part of the core gameplay, so I can put up with that and simply not purchase the DLC.

[Fexelea]

Andarthiel_Demigod wrote...

Fexelea wrote...

At 299 it really isn't that expensive... compared to what the PC costs you.

It's far more expensive here in Australia( average price of $599AU or $538US)
Plus I already own a great gaming PC.

It's not that expensive here:
http://www.ebgames.c...w=large&sort=pa

Owning a great PC is good, but sometimes having the console option can be good as well.

[Andarthiel_Demigod]

Fexelea wrote...

Andarthiel_Demigod wrote...

Fexelea wrote...

At 299 it really isn't that expensive... compared to what the PC costs you.

It's far more expensive here in Australia( average price of $599AU or $538US)
Plus I already own a great gaming PC.

It's not that expensive here:
http://www.ebgames.c...w=large&sort=pa

Owning a great PC is good, but sometimes having the console option can be good as well.

Yea I'm considering getting pre-owned(new PS3s are too expensive) just fot the PS3 exclusives like MGS4(been itching ot paly it for quite some time, big fan) . Time to star saving, I guess.
The 360 is just too risky IMO, Red Ring anyone? and I don't trust Microsft enough to buy their consoles.

[Fexelea]

You can get a used ps3 and be pretty safe, just make sure the shop you buy it from has a "must be working" policy. If you buy it from an individual, make sure to turn it on first. You never know what they did with the system and some people sell PSN-banned systems!

Anyway I think it is worth the money, there are some really good titles on the consoles that are worth every penny, like Demon's Souls.

The 360 was a huge dissapointment to me... their service is terrible out here and I will not recommend it to anyone.