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[That One Display Name]

How come their planet is the only place that they can be free of their protective suits? Their ships are in space, shouldn't that be extremely sterile an enviroment? I could see their ship being extremely clean, allowing them to walk free of protective suits while in them, and have a special meeting room for talking with outsiders and prequarantined people returning from their pilgrimage.

Also, in mass effect 1, Tali was so excited to be on the citadel because it was so spacious. I was really expecting the flotilla to be this super cramped, narrow corridor type ship but it was no less crammed then the normandy. It would have been fun to have to walk single file through there lol

[Frotality]

they wear them out of psychological security and the cultural implications that they built around sharing suit enviroments. they really dont have to, but they just like to be safe.

[sergio71785]

The Flotilla isn't cramped because the ships are so small, but because there's a lot of people in limited space. Compare that to the Citadel, which is huge and has tons of free space.



As for why they wear their suits in there too, I imagine a few reasons. Sense of privacy, as a precaution if a disease outbreaks (Tali's mom died from a disease on one of the ships, for example).

[Talogrungi]

'cos an infection on the flotilla could literally wipe all of 'em out.

If you were that vulnerable, wouldn't you take every precaution?

[Remaix]

"Quarian immune systems were weak in the first place due to a biosphere in which pathogenic microbes were comparatively rare, and over the generations quarians' immune systems have atrophied further still due to the years in the sterile environment of the Migrant Fleet. As such, quarians are given various vaccinations and immunizations to help ward off disease. However, they still refuse to remove their suits as to not take the risk."
-From the Mass Effect wiki.

[LoweGear]

That One Display Name wrote...

How come their planet is the only place that they can be free of their protective suits? Their ships are in space, shouldn't that be extremely sterile an enviroment? I could see their ship being extremely clean, allowing them to walk free of protective suits while in them, and have a special meeting room for talking with outsiders and prequarantined people returning from their pilgrimage.

If you talk to Tali some more, you'd come across conversations where she basically explains that Quarians still wear their suits inside the Flotilla as a precaution measure. I.e. Better safe than sorry.

Also, in mass effect 1, Tali was so excited to be on the citadel because it was so spacious. I was really expecting the flotilla to be this super cramped, narrow corridor type ship but it was no less crammed then the normandy. It would have been fun to have to walk single file through there lol

We only saw the garden level on the Rayya, which of course is one of the more spacious areas of the ship. If you notice, most of the areas you're able to go through on the Rayya are... yes, narrow corridors. Even on the Alarei, you go through a lot of corridors.

Besides, there is no place on any of the Flotilla ships to have spaces as large as the Citadel's Presidium... or on any spacecraft or space station for that matter.

[Homebound]

sergio71785 wrote...

The Flotilla isn't cramped because the ships are so small, but because there's a lot of people in limited space. Compare that to the Citadel, which is huge and has tons of free space.

As for why they wear their suits in there too, I imagine a few reasons. Sense of privacy, as a precaution if a disease outbreaks (Tali's mom died from a disease on one of the ships, for example).

TALI'S MOM DIED?!  How do u find out?!

[That One Display Name]

Talogrungi wrote...

'cos an infection on the flotilla could literally wipe all of 'em out.
If you were that vulnerable, wouldn't you take every precaution?

Honestly.. no...
A release of some crazy virus here on Earth can devastate populations. We don't walk around daily in suits. We walk by people who sneeze and cough without covering their mouths, and we freely touch shopping carts, doors, phones, etc. without thinking twice about the person who handled it before.

[dinin70]

Furthermore, let's suppose they can take them off in the Flotilla, Shepard will still see them with a mask as he can carry diseases with him. And they will keep it because he may have left some bacteries.



So it still makes sense.

[E96 B]

Because you can save time on character models?

[LoweGear]

That One Display Name wrote...

Honestly.. no...
A release of some crazy virus here on Earth can devastate populations. We don't walk around daily in suits. We walk by people who sneeze and cough without covering their mouths, and we freely touch shopping carts, doors, phones, etc. without thinking twice about the person who handled it before.

You forget that Quarians are supposed to have immune systems weaker than most alien races, hence they do need to be extra careful around possible sources of infection.

[Gabey5]

its explained in the novel

[DuffyMJ]

That One Display Name wrote...

Talogrungi wrote...

'cos an infection on the flotilla could literally wipe all of 'em out.
If you were that vulnerable, wouldn't you take every precaution?

Honestly.. no...
A release of some crazy virus here on Earth can devastate populations. We don't walk around daily in suits. We walk by people who sneeze and cough without covering their mouths, and we freely touch shopping carts, doors, phones, etc. without thinking twice about the person who handled it before.

But there's a lot more than 20 million of us, now.  And to be perfectly honest, most of us are very stupid and seem to buy into this myth that modern medicine can do anything.  During the early modern period, if someone got a violent head cold, whole towns would be abandoned and people would flee to the countryside for weeks even on the suspicion of plague or pox or yellow fever, etc. 

[Unato]

it's stated in Ascension that alot of the ships dates back to when they fled their homeworld, included in the "this ship is fing old" package is crappy air filters and high chance of mechanical breakdown so it's logical that if you're living on this hunk of metal held together by bolts 300 yrs old it's prob a good idea to wear a suit

[marshalleck]

Just_mike wrote...

sergio71785 wrote...

The Flotilla isn't cramped because the ships are so small, but because there's a lot of people in limited space. Compare that to the Citadel, which is huge and has tons of free space.

As for why they wear their suits in there too, I imagine a few reasons. Sense of privacy, as a precaution if a disease outbreaks (Tali's mom died from a disease on one of the ships, for example).

TALI'S MOM DIED?!  How do u find out?!

She says it in the first game. Her mother died 5 years before ME1 so I guess when she was 17 years old.

[Rapamaha1]

the novel ascension gives you alot better picture than ME2 about flotilla, In ME1 I really didnt care much about tali & quarians in general, after reading the novel I was really suprised and happy that I could go to Flotilla in ME2 when I got the loyality quest

[Foxxyreaper]

The ships that the quarians have gotten after they left their homeworld have more room then they were standard. because quarians use every bit room there is. They remove every non essential interior to create more room, because of the limited room. It is stated in the book ascension. That amount of personal items the quarians have is virtually non existent. There is not enough room to keep them. THerefore stuff they don't need will put in social rooms so that others that do need it can use it.



as others said the wearing of environmental suits on the flotilla is a precaution. In the first game Tali will say that the fear of leaks and disease breakouts exists constantly. She also mentions the leaks during one of the elevator conversations with kaidan alenko in me1. which explains why there are so few quarian biotics and why even less of their biotics leave the flotilla.



for accurate in formation i'd say you can read on the mass effect wiki, the novel ascension and use the conversations with tali in both games.

[Nastrod]

In the book it explains. First they do not all wear them on the Flotilla but in case of a ship rupture or random germs most do. The smallest things could still wipe out a ship.

[Moleculor]

The Flotilla ships aren't clean.



There are special ships in the Flotilla that ARE clean, and in these ships they can take off their suits. But you can't go in them, so you never see them.

[BinaryHelix101]

Even if they don't normally wear their suits on their ships (which they do), of course they have to wear them when Shepard and the others come in. That was what I thought at first, that they didn't normally wear, but had to because of Shepard and his party.

[Leather_Rebel90]

What I don't understand is why they don't make the entire Flotilla a giant safe-zone for the Quarian race. They can make a suit safe for them, just expand their technology into an entire complex, and have the visitors wear suits.

Modifié par Leather_Rebel90, 21 février 2010 - 12:05 .

[Daerog]

Leather_Rebel90 wrote...

What I don't understand is why they don't make the entire Flotilla a giant safe-zone for the Quarian race. They can make a suit safe for them, just expand their technology into an entire complex, and have the visitors wear suits.

They are wanderers, they don't have much in resources or finances. It's not like they are a stable nation with a lot of trade. They get bribes to leave systems. It would be impossible for them to upgrade the whole flotilla to a clean safe zone with good technology, many of the ships are harldy holding together as it is, and they just use what parts they can, they rarely buy new parts.

And they do have quarantine areas and designated spots for guests to land. Like in the novel. They won't let guests in unless the guests have envirosuits on as well. Which is why Shep wears his/her helmet.

Modifié par DaerogTheDhampir, 21 février 2010 - 12:11 .

[Shazzie]

And what of the "the greatest sign of trust is linking suits" and how Admiral Shala'Raan linked suits with Tali's mother for Tali's birth, and that alone made her sick for a week "but it was worth it"?



If two people can't even share the same environment without being sick, how could the entire Flotilla? Especially when the Flotilla is made up of aging, renovated ships.

[Mondo47]

Linus blankets. That and it's far too easy for infections to spread save in the clean-ships... and even then, you can never be too careful.

Slightly off topic, but did anyone else think the Flotilla looked a bit too uniform? I was expecting something a bit more like the convoy in Battlestar Galactica... lots of variety and much more battered around the edges.

[Unato]

not surprising, newer ships are prob smaller since Quarians aren't exactly wealthy and the smaller ones are prob being sheltered by the larger ones but as I said alot of the ships in the Fleet are from when they fled, they just constantly repair it to keep it afloat, in that sense it's not surprising if it's uniform