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[Lith Maethor]

to all the people asking for a katana or other obviously asian weapons... don't you think they'd seem completely alien in Ferelden.. or even Thedas? even (ancient) elven weapons are not that different from standard equipment, except cosmetically (and in my opinion, easily the best of each type)



as far as the bastard sword goes, i'm all for it... but 2-handers weren't really that slow (i believe that started in D&D or similar games, for "balance" reasons), it would make them useless in combat and i doubt they were just for show



rapiers, whips, cutlasses(?), staves, flails, halberds... those should all be in, as they definitely fit the style and theme of the game (unless and until the writers say that nobody in Thedas uses those weapons) ...besides, polearms just rock

[KnightofPhoenix]

I want hook swords

[_Aine_]

Modifié par shantisands, 22 février 2010 - 02:29 .

[Skadi_the_Evil_Elf]

Lith Maethor wrote...

to all the people asking for a katana or other obviously asian weapons... don't you think they'd seem completely alien in Ferelden.. or even Thedas? even (ancient) elven weapons are not that different from standard equipment, except cosmetically (and in my opinion, easily the best of each type)

as far as the bastard sword goes, i'm all for it... but 2-handers weren't really that slow (i believe that started in D&D or similar games, for "balance" reasons), it would make them useless in combat and i doubt they were just for show

rapiers, whips, cutlasses(?), staves, flails, halberds... those should all be in, as they definitely fit the style and theme of the game (unless and until the writers say that nobody in Thedas uses those weapons) ...besides, polearms just rock

I agree on the Asian weapons. It would be totally out of place in Ferelden and even Thedas, and would have no cultural or historical reason for being there. i don't know what the DA world has for an equivilant to the Far east, if any, but to drop them in them in the  middle of Ferelden and make them usable by your Ferelden born and bred (or even Orlesian) warden without any training in wielding them would just seem out of place.

I would like to see propper daggers, since the ones in game look more like short swords and wield similarly. And then add short swords/gladius type weapons as a step up from a dagger.

Morningstars and pole-arm type weapons certainly would make sense to have in game. especially pole arms, as these were used alot in medieval society, especially for mounted combat. the game is always going on about pikes, whether putting peoples heads on them or twirling them, yet I haven't seen a single one.

Klingon swords? That just has all sorts of weird...potential.

[_Aine_]

i don't see much historical authenticity on the weapons thus far in the game, the period is too broad in terms of influence, or, at least it seems to be as a casual observer --- I think there is a great touch of "fantasy" already in their weapons, more so from some screenshots from the expansion...

I would think that the Qunari would have had more ornate, eloborate and "typical fantasy" designs -- as much as you can easily picture the dwarves dual-wielding thick heavy runed hammers and axes. In mainstream Ferelden, there would not be too much cultural melding yet, so it would probably be the typical longswords, maces, flails, polearms, morningstars etc. Many of the pikes etc were used mounted....of course, so was the heavy plate We aren't always totally realistic here lol

A lot of the fantasy weapons you see are based on something historical -- that first dagger pic is actually a hindu design i think from the 16 century or so, so it varies quite a bit.  If you are being totally "authentic" there is only a few ways they could go, that they already havent.  Fun to imagine though. 

Modifié par shantisands, 22 février 2010 - 01:45 .

[Giant ambush beetle]

Mad Method wrote...

The bastard sword can be wielded either with both hands or with one hand; that's why it's called the bastard sword: It is neither a proper member of the one-handed family nor a proper member of the two-handed family of swords.

That would actually make it an interesting weapon to include in the game: you could weild it either with one or both hands.

Thats an old mistake, the bastard sword is actually an enlarged longsword. Its two-handed only. 

Let me explain, knights in the early middle age in chainmail used a shield and a one handed longsword, as the armor grew stronger and tougher knights came to the point not needing a shield anymore. But the longswords grew ineffective against the stronger armor so the longswords blade grew longer and heavier to be more effective against plate armor. But it was too heavy to be wielded with one hand so the handle got lengthened and it turned into a two handed sword. 

It was still smaller and lighter hen a true greatsword, so knights were capeable to wield the bastard sword very fast and effectively. 

Another name for the bastard sword is one and a half handed sword. 

Try it yourself, I have a bastard sword. I am a big dude; I go to the gym and bench press 260 pounds. But I couldnt wield a bastard sword effectively with one hand. The leverage efefct of the heavy blade is too much, I would be way too slow. 

[KnightofPhoenix]

shantisands wrote...
I would think that the Qunari would have had more ornate, eloborate and "typical fantasy" designs --

The Qunari are potrayed as being highly practical. So I think their weapons would not be fancy looking, or vain. Just efficient and right to your face. 

[Wolfaura]

Spears, polearms were my fave weapon. I always use one for my character in WoW.

So I thought it strange that DAO didn't have any especially when Oghren mentions about Alistair twirling his pike.

Or maybe some fist weapons like claws if they have a monk/brawler type class.

[karma_killer09]

Nukes?

[Hahren]

Hopefully there will be more choices of 1h weapons in the dragonbone tier. Origins seemed dominated by 1h swords followed by axes. Hopefully the expansion might offer a nice mace. I'd also like to see some nice daggers since most of the good ones from Origins are via DLC, and won't transition to Awakening.



For 2h weapons I'd like to see a really good 2h axe. I've had my fill of 2h swords, and while I love mauls I'd like something different from the Chasind Great Maul.



I wouldn't expect any new types of exotic weaponry to make it. Hopefully we'll just get some better selections over what Origins had.

[Hahren]

double post

Modifié par Hahren, 22 février 2010 - 01:58 .

[Skadi_the_Evil_Elf]

karma_killer09 wrote...

Nukes?

Already covered. His name is Sandal.

[_Aine_]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

shantisands wrote...
I would think that the Qunari would have had more ornate, eloborate and "typical fantasy" designs --

The Qunari are potrayed as being highly practical. So I think their weapons would not be fancy looking, or vain. Just efficient and right to your face. 

Really?  Hmm, i always saw them differently. Imagination is a funny thing, eh?  
Practical:  Yes, the soldiers for sure, but with Stens gifts, it was all art, and literature which perhaps led me astray.  I thought of the Qunari a blend of practicality and yet with much regard for ceremony, art, and the like.  I have weird ideas in my head I suppose.  Maybe it was all his talk of teas and spices, it brought to mind the middle east to me i guess, and they have very ornate designs for some of their ceremonial weaponry.    You are probably right, i just picture more curved blades, hanging tassels in my mind   

[karma_killer09]

Skadi_the_Evil_Elf wrote...

karma_killer09 wrote...

Nukes?

Already covered. His name is Sandal.

lol, i know, You should be able to carry him in a backpack and let him devestate people...
Announcer: "With the archfeind defeated, things seemed to......Sandal?
Sandal: "enchantment?"
                                  Game over
                                 (credits roll)

[Axekix]

Lightsabers

[karma_killer09]

just my opinion but any weopon could be included and explained easily, as far as asian weopons go, well countries have to trade with someone right? Why not an asian based country? even in real life they are a big part of trade so it could easily be expalined as an imported weapon, or you could even make it special and its original owner could have been an asian type warlord who lost the sword in his final breaths at the battle of crouching tiger hidden dragon, just using my imagination i guess, it is fantasy for a reason, lol

Modifié par karma_killer09, 22 février 2010 - 02:13 .

[xXDWARFAREXx]

Wow, I have to say I'm 'very' pleased that the majority of you aren't making any decisions at Bioware. xD



Or maybe that you just got canned after Jade Empire launched...

[karma_killer09]

xXDWARFAREXx wrote...

Wow, I have to say I'm 'very' pleased that the majority of you aren't making any decisions at Bioware. xD

Or maybe that you just got canned after Jade Empire launched...

I got canned for putting the...the....What the hell is jade empire?

[KnightofPhoenix]

shantisands wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

shantisands wrote...
I would think that the Qunari would have had more ornate, eloborate and "typical fantasy" designs --

The Qunari are potrayed as being highly practical. So I think their weapons would not be fancy looking, or vain. Just efficient and right to your face. 

Really?  Hmm, i always saw them differently. Imagination is a funny thing, eh?  
Practical:  Yes, the soldiers for sure, but with Stens gifts, it was all art, and literature which perhaps led me astray.  I thought of the Qunari a blend of practicality and yet with much regard for ceremony, art, and the like.  I have weird ideas in my head I suppose.  Maybe it was all his talk of teas and spices, it brought to mind the middle east to me i guess, and they have very ornate designs for some of their ceremonial weaponry.    You are probably right, i just picture more curved blades, hanging tassels in my mind   

Actually you are right. I would assume that Qunari cities and architecture would be artistic. But I am not surew about their military equipment. Then again, even soldiers are trained to appreciate art.
You might have a valid point actually.

Hopefully we get to learn about and see the Qunari more closely.

[joey_mork84]

The Woldan wrote...

Mad Method wrote...

The bastard sword can be wielded either with both hands or with one hand; that's why it's called the bastard sword: It is neither a proper member of the one-handed family nor a proper member of the two-handed family of swords.

That would actually make it an interesting weapon to include in the game: you could weild it either with one or both hands.

Thats an old mistake, the bastard sword is actually an enlarged longsword. Its two-handed only. 

Let me explain, knights in the early middle age in chainmail used a shield and a one handed longsword, as the armor grew stronger and tougher knights came to the point not needing a shield anymore. But the longswords grew ineffective against the stronger armor so the longswords blade grew longer and heavier to be more effective against plate armor. But it was too heavy to be wielded with one hand so the handle got lengthened and it turned into a two handed sword. 

It was still smaller and lighter hen a true greatsword, so knights were capeable to wield the bastard sword very fast and effectively. 

Another name for the bastard sword is one and a half handed sword. 

Try it yourself, I have a bastard sword. I am a big dude; I go to the gym and bench press 260 pounds. But I couldnt wield a bastard sword effectively with one hand. The leverage efefct of the heavy blade is too much, I would be way too slow. 

Mad Method was closer, but for what it's worth here is the link to the wiki for how it got its name. I, too, am kind of a big guy, Woldan (not in hieght but in actual size), and have a small sword collection. I have only one bastard sword, and the weight of it isn't my problem. My problem with weilding it (for the most part) is it's length lol I'm slightly shorter than the sword's length.. see my problem? lol

[Spawny]

I would love to use a Halberd in the game. And I use coating nearly all the time even if my hero is a warrior class, I get level one of poison so I can use them. Traps I've not used yet. If I get a character with all her stealth early in game I will.

[karma_killer09]

joey_mork84 wrote...

The Woldan wrote...

Mad Method wrote...

The bastard sword can be wielded either with both hands or with one hand; that's why it's called the bastard sword: It is neither a proper member of the one-handed family nor a proper member of the two-handed family of swords.

That would actually make it an interesting weapon to include in the game: you could weild it either with one or both hands.

Thats an old mistake, the bastard sword is actually an enlarged longsword. Its two-handed only. 

Let me explain, knights in the early middle age in chainmail used a shield and a one handed longsword, as the armor grew stronger and tougher knights came to the point not needing a shield anymore. But the longswords grew ineffective against the stronger armor so the longswords blade grew longer and heavier to be more effective against plate armor. But it was too heavy to be wielded with one hand so the handle got lengthened and it turned into a two handed sword. 

It was still smaller and lighter hen a true greatsword, so knights were capeable to wield the bastard sword very fast and effectively. 

Another name for the bastard sword is one and a half handed sword. 

Try it yourself, I have a bastard sword. I am a big dude; I go to the gym and bench press 260 pounds. But I couldnt wield a bastard sword effectively with one hand. The leverage efefct of the heavy blade is too much, I would be way too slow. 

Mad Method was closer, but for what it's worth here is the link to the wiki for how it got its name. I, too, am kind of a big guy, Woldan (not in hieght but in actual size), and have a small sword collection. I have only one bastard sword, and the weight of it isn't my problem. My problem with weilding it (for the most part) is it's length lol I'm slightly shorter than the sword's length.. see my problem? lol

i feel your pain, those freaking daggers are huge, *cough* *cough* i meant battle axes, SHUT UP, DONT JUDGE ME!!!

[Raycer X]

If pikes are implemented I'm guessing we'll hear no end of it from Alistair fans and their wish of watching him to some "twirling" .

[Raycer X]

If pikes are implemented I'm guessing we'll hear no end of it from Alistair fans and their wish of watching him do some "twirling" .

Woops, major mistakes, sorry

Modifié par Raycer X, 22 février 2010 - 02:35 .

[joey_mork84]

karma_killer09 wrote...

i feel your pain, those freaking daggers are huge, *cough* *cough* i meant battle axes, SHUT UP, DONT JUDGE ME!!!

LMAO I'm not THAT short lol but ok