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[shabat0]

i finished the main storyline, and was all set to set off finding morrigan.. then it was over and i was left a broken soul.. when's the rest of that story supposed to be occuring??

[Herr Uhl]

Possibly never!



Or the god-child is a convenient plot device for a sequel.

[Sabriana]

Personally, my story is done. Morrigan is off pouting because my PC didn't let her do the ritual. My PCs are all female, so no 'regular' baby either. My PC is quite okay with her being off somewhere pouting.



Alistair is married to Anora, and Anora will be surprised at seeing that she won't be able to rule as she pleases.

Loghain did the sacrifice.

PC and Zevran are off to rebuild the Wardens together.

My PC knows there is no baby. None of my PCs allowed the ritual - ever. They see no need to run after Morrigan.

Their stories are finished.

If there is an expansion called "Morrigan's baby" you can bet that there are many players who'll say "Baby? What baby."

It was a choice only. If it was to be covered later, it should have been mandatory, not a choice. Unless they wish to force a canon down the "no-baby" crowd and nullify our decision.

[shabat0]

it said "...for now" at the end of morrigans thing, surely the demand for expansion of this storyline is too great for them to ignore..

[Sabriana]

I don't know about that. There are quite a few players who didn't let Morrigan do the ritual. If they do DLC for the players that did, they're not going to be able to capture the whole player-base.

I for one, wouldn't touch it. I'll not let someone wreck my story-line and role-playing by suddenly having Morrigan pregnant, and Loghain/Alistair still died.

But, for yours and everyone else's sake who have been left hanging, I'll keep my fingers crossed that the devs create at least something for you all

[aaniadyen]

shabat0 wrote...

it said "...for now" at the end of morrigans thing, surely the demand for expansion of this storyline is too great for them to ignore..

I don't know about that. I personally don't care if we ever see Morrigan again. We probably will, and we'll probably know what their plans are for her when we play the expansion.

[errant_knight]

If they decide that they want to bring Morrigan back into things before the child is old enough to be integral to the plot, I think we'll see it in relation to the need for an heir. None of the possible rulers have much if any likelihood to produce an heir, but Morrigan would seem to know how to ensure a pregnancy. That would be a compelliing reason for the PC to go after her, even in cases where they meant their promise not to follow. The only scenario that would be problematic is the one where the PC died, because in that one there might be no one alive who knows about the ritual, but an NPC could bring it up in that case.

Modifié par errant_knight, 21 février 2010 - 04:48 .

[Helios969]

Sabriana wrote...

Personally, my story is done. Morrigan is off pouting because my PC didn't let her do the ritual. My PCs are all female, so no 'regular' baby either. My PC is quite okay with her being off somewhere pouting.

Alistair is married to Anora, and Anora will be surprised at seeing that she won't be able to rule as she pleases.
Loghain did the sacrifice.
PC and Zevran are off to rebuild the Wardens together.
My PC knows there is no baby. None of my PCs allowed the ritual - ever. They see no need to run after Morrigan.
Their stories are finished.
If there is an expansion called "Morrigan's baby" you can bet that there are many players who'll say "Baby? What baby."
It was a choice only. If it was to be covered later, it should have been mandatory, not a choice. Unless they wish to force a canon down the "no-baby" crowd and nullify our decision.

An easy fix.  Morrigan, using her extraordinary skills as a mage casts a spell on Alistair or your male character, compelling you to have sex with her.  Then wiped your memory of the event.  In some future expansion, your character (or perhaps Alistair's) would start to have dreams or partial recalls.  You are disturbed, so you seek out Wynne - and with her aid recover the lost memory, hence triggering the return of Morrigan.

[Sabriana]

Rofl, it would have to be Loghain, and he's dead. I don't have a live father for a Morrigan baby. My PCs are all women. Perhaps we can include Loghain's ghost. He could come to my PC in her dreams, revealing what was done



All of them could care less about the fertility problems of the throne. My mage is not at all worried about anything Ferelden. My HN think that a Cousland would make a great Queen/King if the throne should stand empty. They wouldn't want to depose Alistair, or take the throne themselves, but they are a bit biased in that matter. They are however, also good friends with the King, so if he would ask them to find Morrigan, my girls would grab Zevran and go looking.

[lazuli]

I wouldn't expect a Morrigan centered expansion, DLC or otherwise.  Honestly, I would expect Awakening to be the trend for expansions.  What I mean by this is they will set expansions/sequels in different lands and feature a host of new characters so that they don't have to do too much follow-up on the varied companion endings.  It makes sense from a developer standpoint.

I don't necessarily mind.

[Adynata]

I let Morrigan do the ritual with Logain and Alistair, but I don't care if I ever see that baby. If the DAO team throws in a back story where the baby's daddy goes looking for her, then okay. But I wouldn't be jumping up and down to go track her through the woods.

[Dave of Canada]

Morrigan's baby is interesting in all my playthroughs.



In one, she is my character's lover and he wants to see her again because he loves her.



In the other, she's pregnant with an heir to the throne. With the soul of an old god.

[Helios969]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Morrigan's baby is interesting in all my playthroughs.

In one, she is my character's lover and he wants to see her again because he loves her.

In the other, she's pregnant with an heir to the throne. With the soul of an old god.

I really don't see how they cannot have Morrigan back in a major expansion.  It seems obvious (at least to me) that the writers did everything they could to guide our characters toward a specific outcome.  Psychologically, our inclination is to accept the ritual thereby ensuring our characters survival despite our likely suspicion and revulsion of performing a ritual that has such obvious and potentially disasterous consequences.  I know my first time through that I struggled with the moral implications (silly given it's just a video game) before ultimately deciding to convince Alistair to participate.  Love her or hate her, Morrigan is a fascinating dichotomy - as really all the companions are.

[lazuli]

Helios969 wrote...


I really don't see how they cannot have Morrigan back in a major expansion.  It seems obvious (at least to me) that the writers did everything they could to guide our characters toward a specific outcome.  Psychologically, our inclination is to accept the ritual thereby ensuring our characters survival despite our likely suspicion and revulsion of performing a ritual that has such obvious and potentially disasterous consequences.

And yet there have been people on this board who, perhaps because of their views on the sanctity of unborn life, could not allow themselves to participate in the ritual.

[Thalorin1919]

I wont be really interested in it. In most of my playthroughs, I either sacrificed myself or had Alistair or Loghain do it. I only had one playthrough where my mage was in love with Morrigan and did the ritual, just incase Bioware does have her and the child involved in a expansion or something.



But I dont see why or how they could make a sequel based off the kid. Alot of people DID not do the ritual and did the ultimate sacrifice. I would see it as an expansion, for I think they will have sequels in new areas, and hopefully focused on other things rather then blights.

[Helios969]

lazuli wrote...

Helios969 wrote...


I really don't see how they cannot have Morrigan back in a major expansion.  It seems obvious (at least to me) that the writers did everything they could to guide our characters toward a specific outcome.  Psychologically, our inclination is to accept the ritual thereby ensuring our characters survival despite our likely suspicion and revulsion of performing a ritual that has such obvious and potentially disasterous consequences.

And yet there have been people on this board who, perhaps because of their views on the sanctity of unborn life, could not allow themselves to participate in the ritual.

I'm just reading the tea leaves and what I think the writers intend to do in the future.  I'd also like to point out that the people on this forum represent a small proportion (contrary to what many of them think) of the number of people that played the game.  I'm sure Bioware's marketing department will ascertain what the bulk of players did and what the overall demand is - perhaps the writers will act accordingly to what the research suggests.  I suspect more that the writer(s) already have something specific in mind and will follow their creation to whatever end.

[Brockololly]

Helios969 wrote...
 I'm sure Bioware's marketing department will ascertain what the bulk of players did and what the overall demand is - perhaps the writers will act accordingly to what the research suggests.  I suspect more that the writer(s) already have something specific in mind and will follow their creation to whatever end.

Morrigan's story isn't done yet- the devs have stated as such. So long as you have the feedback option on in your game, Bioware has been collecting all sorts of data on how people are playing DAO ( and ME2 for that matter), so I'm sure they know exactly how many people have gone through with the ritual.

And the simple fact that Morrigan is the only character that cannot be killed off, combined with her interest in the Old Gods makes me believe she might make a return after the events of Awakening, depending on what the Architect is up to...

[FireDragon076]

Morrigan is dead, thats Flemeth you would be seeking.

[Nonvita]

Helios969 wrote...

I'm just reading the tea leaves and what I think the writers intend to do in the future.  I'd also like to point out that the people on this forum represent a small proportion (contrary to what many of them think) of the number of people that played the game.  I'm sure Bioware's marketing department will ascertain what the bulk of players did and what the overall demand is - perhaps the writers will act accordingly to what the research suggests.  I suspect more that the writer(s) already have something specific in mind and will follow their creation to whatever end.

But that's still silly reasoning. They wouldn't put in the choice if they wanted people to pursue a particular one. They made it the way it is knowing that many people would object to it for various reasons; if they'd made it a simple decision it would have been boring.

Now, I do think Morrigan will return eventually, though doubtfully in an expansion. In every ending she ends up in Orlais, which makes it sound as if a sequel might be set in Orlais, with the return of Morrigan. How they will deal with the God baby, I don't know, and it will present a challenge. But I don't want any expansion that's completely geared around searching for Morrigan. It may be all romantic and special for guys who romanced her, but all my Wardens were female, and few of them feel any need to go on some long campaign to find her.

[Warriors Legacy]

I personally would love a DLC and would pay to play it. I reallly went to hell and back to try and bend reality so that Morrigan could stay and when at the end she said my love i knew i had to find her. And DLC or not i will go to the end of the fade to what was the golden city and show the maker that there is no obstacle i would not destroy in order to see my love again and see the innocent face of my child. or.. is that just me?

[lazuli]

Helios969 wrote...



I'm just reading the tea leaves and what I think the writers intend to do in the future.  I'd also like to point out that the people on this forum represent a small proportion (contrary to what many of them think) of the number of people that played the game.  I'm sure Bioware's marketing department will ascertain what the bulk of players did and what the overall demand is - perhaps the writers will act accordingly to what the research suggests.  I suspect more that the writer(s) already have something specific in mind and will follow their creation to whatever end.

Fair enough.  I'm inclined to believe you're correct on them knowing what the most popular choices are.  In the options menu (at least on PC) there is an online tab.  Under this tab you can choose whether or not to upload "gameplay feedback."  Feasibly they could also track some of our more important decisions through achievements as well.

[Dave of Canada]

FireDragon076 wrote...

Morrigan is dead, thats Flemeth you would be seeking.

How evil of you.

I let Flemeth go while romancing her, god I felt like a cold heartless bastard. Had to reload it.

[BlazingSpeed]

Sabriana wrote...

Personally, my story is done. Morrigan is off pouting because my PC didn't let her do the ritual. My PCs are all female, so no 'regular' baby either. My PC is quite okay with her being off somewhere pouting.

Alistair is married to Anora, and Anora will be surprised at seeing that she won't be able to rule as she pleases.
Loghain did the sacrifice.
PC and Zevran are off to rebuild the Wardens together.
My PC knows there is no baby. None of my PCs allowed the ritual - ever. They see no need to run after Morrigan.
Their stories are finished.
If there is an expansion called "Morrigan's baby" you can bet that there are many players who'll say "Baby? What baby."
It was a choice only. If it was to be covered later, it should have been mandatory, not a choice. Unless they wish to force a canon down the "no-baby" crowd and nullify our decision.

I kind of agree with this I only got this game a few weeks ago so on my first run my male PC slept with Morrigan (mainly cause Loghain was dead and there was no way Anora was gonna be queen after I saved her life only to have her turn on me at the landsmeet...) so that the PC would be alive in awakening but based on the way Bioware is addressing the US ending in awakening it seems that bedding the self centered cow will be the canon ending which would suck because Morrigan will not be a happy camper in any more of my DA games.

"My Love" my behind Morrigan flat out admitted to the Warden that she and "Flemeth" were playing you for a sucker the whole time and then has the nerve to put down Lelianna. With Flemeth dead Morrigan could have stayed/changed since she  "got more than she bargined for" but now Morrigan just wants to do the same thing Flemeth was doing.

Morrigan and the kid will both be back and I hope you can have the option to use the mysterious perfect headshot murder knife for Morrigan and Oghren too.

[Sabriana]

Self-preservation only figures in if there is no other way to safe your own life. My PC-girls never sacrificed themselves. One had Alistair do the killing - she really had no choice, he just went ahead and did it. The others chose Loghain. Quite satisfying, I think.



No ritual. My girls were friends with Morrigan, but there was always that niggling little doubt about her motives. She was less than forthcoming when she was quizzed about the baby. So, no way would any of them allow the ritual. Especially because Morrigan was so secretive about it, and wouldn't answer any question directly and satisfactorily.

[MaxQuartiroli]

I believe it's much more probable we may find somewhere Morrigan's child than Morrigan herself... I never accepted her offer, therefore the text-box concerning Morrigan during the final said "As she promises you, you weren't able to see her again"

Modifié par MaxQuartiroli, 22 février 2010 - 10:57 .