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[Terraneaux]

 He/She has a database of Protehan knowledge downloaded to his/her brain.  He/She even understands their language.  Why can't Shepard put two and two together?  I mean, I guess that runs into the dangerous territory of protagonizing the main character and it's not in ME2's themes, but it makes sense.

[SlashcrossXD]

Terraneaux wrote...

 He/She has a database of Protehan knowledge downloaded to his/her brain.  He/She even understands their language.  Why can't Shepard put two and two together?  I mean, I guess that runs into the dangerous territory of protagonizing the main character and it's not in ME2's themes, but it makes sense.

Because they're not Protheans, they've had extensive genetic modifications. 

[MatronAdena]

because the collectors look nothing like the protheans remotely anymore. They have been so heavily genetically/technologically modified that they no longer resemble a unaltered Prothean.

[dinin70]

As EDI said they suffered several genetical modifications.



This can be the explanation

[The Angry One]

It was never a database, it was a general empire-wide distress call with some planet locations and whatnot built in because it was part of a network.

In any case, the beacons provided data from centuries before the remaining Protheans were repurposed as Collectors.

[RighteousRage]

OP is talking about the cipher, which was enough Prothean knowledge to understand what the distress beacons depicted in the first place. For some reason in the game he only just then realizes that he was seeing Protheans being turned into Collectors or husks.

[Kolaris8472]

Protheans look like the Squid-faced Illithid type creatures you see represented in statues on Ilos. Not really a spec of resemblance to the Collectors.

[Sursion]

The Angry One wrote...

It was never a database, it was a general empire-wide distress call with some planet locations and whatnot built in because it was part of a network.
In any case, the beacons provided data from centuries before the remaining Protheans were repurposed as Collectors.

The cypher, not the beacons.

And as everyone pointed out, genetic modification.

[Beechwell]

This makes me think though. Strange that the Cipher is never again mentioned. From ME1 I got the feeling that it was quite a huge deal: The ability to think like a Prothean. It would be kind of wasted if that was only good to decipher the beacon message. Maybe it'll play a role in ME3?

[RighteousRage]

Then again, Shepard mysteriously operates various consoles on the Collector bases, so perhaps the cipher is still going after all.

[The Angry One]

Sursion wrote...

The cypher, not the beacons.

And as everyone pointed out, genetic modification.

The cipher is a language translation code, not a database IIRC.
In any case, same thing. Anything Shep downloaded from the Protheans was made long before the Protheans were changed, aside from the data you find in ME2 apparently. Which is irrelevant since you don't find that earlier.

Modifié par The Angry One, 21 février 2010 - 08:30 .

[The Angry One]

RighteousRage wrote...

Then again, Shepard mysteriously operates various consoles on the Collector bases, so perhaps the cipher is still going after all.

Shep can operate Geth consoles too.
The Shep is just that awesome.

[Zhijn]

Yes...
Shouldnt Shepard have notice on veetor's cctv that the collectors look awful alot like his "visions" from the beacons in ME1?. =o

Ah well, 2yrs in a coma probably left his brain abit num. =p

Modifié par Zhijn, 21 février 2010 - 08:43 .

[cutthecameras]

Everyone found that bit of prothean data on that N7 mission? It made me crap my pants to see a Collector in that montage I was so used to seeing from ME1.

[Terraneaux]

I'm just saying... it might have added a bit of character to the collectors, who otherwise have less personality than the geth, if Shepard kept having flashbacks and being like 'there's something wrong' with these enemies, but he can't put his finger on it. Might have added to the mystery, and then when it gets explained he's like OH ****.

[cutthecameras]

Terraneaux wrote...
 and then when it gets explained he's like OH ****.

Pardon me sir, but when it gets explained I was already like OH ****.

Terrifying.

[Beechwell]

Zhijn wrote...
Yes...
Shouldnt Shepard have notice on veetor's cctv that the collectors look awful alot like his "visions" from the beacons in ME1?. =o

The original visions didn't have any Collectors in them, though. Only the one from the ME2 side mission did. I assume all visions are to some extent incomplete.

[Ulicus]

The Angry One wrote...

The cipher is a language translation code, not a database IIRC.

It's the ancestral memory and collective unconscious of the prothean race. Apparantly. More than a mere translation code, in any case. It allows Shepard to "think like a prothean" and other nebulous, sort of ill-defined stuff.

[Beechwell]

Terraneaux wrote...

I'm just saying... it might have added a bit of character to the collectors, who otherwise have less personality than the geth, if Shepard kept having flashbacks and being like 'there's something wrong' with these enemies, but he can't put his finger on it. Might have added to the mystery, and then when it gets explained he's like OH ****.

That would have been brilliant!
What a wasted opportunity

[Gill Kaiser]

Kolaris8472 wrote...

Protheans look like the Squid-faced Illithid type creatures you see represented in statues on Ilos. Not really a spec of resemblance to the Collectors.

This. Protheans are Illithids.

[cutthecameras]

Beechwell wrote...

Terraneaux wrote...

I'm just saying... it might have added a bit of character to the collectors, who otherwise have less personality than the geth, if Shepard kept having flashbacks and being like 'there's something wrong' with these enemies, but he can't put his finger on it. Might have added to the mystery, and then when it gets explained he's like OH ****.

That would have been brilliant!
What a wasted opportunity

Do you really think so? Not to rag on the idea but I think it would've been too much. It was better to think of them as nothing more than evil, and then get a kick in the gut when you realize it was something totally out of left field. Besides it's a testament to how badly they were bastardized that someone like Commander Shepard can't even recognize them for what they once were.

[dedhd]

This question can be accuratly addressed now that we've seen a Prothean in Mass Effect 3.
The collectors do look very much like Protheans, and the best reason out of teh ones you guys gace is probably the one about the cipher/beacons not being a prothean database, but rather a simple signal that says "hey, I'm the closest thing to a prothean that's still alive :D"