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[Thresher Maw]

Schroing wrote...

you're narrowing one down because she's had past relations that didn't go so well with at least two krogan...and she used the words "better luck next time."

And also the fact that she chose to flee rather than be forced to kill an old friend, which matches Wrex's story of Aleena.

Schroing wrote...

So, purely from a statistical standpoint, yes, it's far more likely that Aria and Aleena are not one in the same.

From a purely statistical standpoint, sure, you're right. But from a "statistics are meaningless because this is a meticulously planned video game" stand point, it's far more likely that she IS Aleena.

[Kerilus]

She's the leader of a space station with two major quests and one loyalty quest on, in which you have to consult her in all three quest. She might not be as major as a squady or the council, but she is definitly not a "very minor" character.

Modifié par Kerilus, 22 février 2010 - 12:54 .

[Saurel]

I'm talking about Aleena, Kerilus

[Xivai]

Maybe she doesn't consider fighting Wrex a fight, but a game? A friendly competition between the two most badass mercenaries? She considers Patriarch a fight because she was never friends with him, not really.

[GuardianAngel470]

If she is Aleena then it would go along way to describe just how you are going to get the terminus systems on your side in ME3.

[Kerilus]

Saurel wrote...

I'm talking about Aleena, Kerilus

Oh...well, she almost kicked Wrex's ass and we all know Wrex's the most goddamn awesome Krogan in the galaxy...so yep that doesn't help to cover up my embarrasment at all ;(

Seriously though, Aleena is one of the very few people who crossed Wrex and remain alive. She was indeed minor, but I actually hoped to meet her somewhere in ME1 and it is logical for the writers to bring her into the trilogy, as they wouldn't be as awesome if they would so easily forget a character that has much protential.

[The Angry One]

Maybe Patriarch was just a better fighter in his day.

Why does Wrex have to be the best at everything?

[Wild Still]

[*]Aria says she has had commando training
Lots of Asari do

[*]Aria reveals almost nothing about her past
This is evidence of what? That there is no evidence?

[*]Aria is probably around the same age as Wrex since both species live up to 1000 yrs or more
Aria's age is completely indeterminate.

[*]Aria says that the Patriarch is not the first Krogon shes ever pissed off
Krogan are born pissed off.

I am afraid all those four pieces of "evidence" point to pretty much every Asari merc. Not that she couldn't be, but any Asari merc you run into is just as likely to be Aleena. Hell, you might have wiped some of Aleena off your boot in ME1 or ME2 at some point. Wrex and Aleena are equals, Shep would stomp them both into paste.

Probably both at once.

[Xivai]

The Angry One wrote...

Maybe Patriarch was just a better fighter in his day.
Why does Wrex have to be the best at everything?

Why doeas the council ahve to be made up of a bunch of chickens and lizards with paper bags over theirt heads?

Why is it wherever Shepard goes things blow up?

Why is it that Quarians can't live in peace with Geth?

Why is it Shepard is better at everything?

I could go on, but that is just the nature of the Mass Effect universe. Shepard blows stuff up, TIM talks all sly like, and Wrex is the most baddass mercenary.  

Edit
We are not working on the laws of probability and science, but the laws of TV Tropes. Now yield you analyitical people, and let a master story teller predict what will happen. That Aria is Aleena.

Modifié par Xivai, 22 février 2010 - 01:11 .

[The_mango55]

The Angry One wrote...

Maybe Patriarch was just a better fighter in his day.
Why does Wrex have to be the best at everything?

Wrex is the de-facto ruler of the Krogan race, a race that is defined by martial prowess.

[HomicidialFrog]

DreadvasNormandy wrote...

It'd be great to see teams outside of Shepard's direct influence like Wrex and Aria. I'd be game to see a non-Shepard squad.

EDIT here be ye SPOILERS - Slightly going off-topic but remember when Omega Station was considered the opposite of Citadel Station? Imagine Aria and Wrex combining forces to make a rival Council (much like Asari/Salarians beginning) but Asari/Krogan helming with Batarians standing in for Turians and Vorcha getting a certain embassy. Probably unlikely to be law-abiding or governed but a ME3 story with Aria and Wrex teamed up sounds like a win-win situation. 

I doubt Wrex will want anything to do with Omega since he has to already take care of Tuchanka and Krogan aren't really the sharing type, Wrex is having enough trouble convincing the Krogan on how strong they can be if there all united under one banner, nevermind uniting with OTHER species I bet if Wrex even suggests that he'll get 10 shotgun blasts to the face. Plus I doubt Wrex would even consider it either.

And I REALLY doubt Aria will ever share Omega out of good will, like the Krogan she really isn't the sharing type.

And Vorcha? With an Embassy? That's just like giving the Varren an Embassy like the Chief Scout on Tuchanka said "They have just as much brains as Varren, only difference is they can talk and use guns." plus it's pretty obvious there not organized creatures as the Turian Captain on Omega says: "Vorcha? Organized? Ha!"

[Saurel]

Kerilus wrote...



Seriously though, Aleena is one of the very few people who crossed Wrex and remain alive. She was indeed minor, but I actually hoped to meet her somewhere in ME1 and it is logical for the writers to bring her into the trilogy, as they wouldn't be as awesome if they would so easily forget a character that has much protential.

You're not alone there   I'm hoping we see from her, part of the reason I'm hoping she isn't Aria. Is it wouldn't surprise me if they went that route, that they wouldn't push it any further (since Aleena was kinda minor) beyond that little "better luck next time" wink.

I could see it being that. But to me Aleena sounded like a cool character, and Aria is one of my favorites in ME2. So if there were two awesome asari in ME3 , I'd be a happy camper . Plus I don't see Aria joining up (since she has a rather good position on Omega ); whereas Aleena could be an option if her character isn't cemented.

Personally it wouldn't surprise me if the writers are teasing with the idea. But it hasn't been set in stone.

Hell, I want to see Armistan Banes just because he had a cool name and evoked quasi-dread in Anderson

(and he has two strikes against him: 1. believed to be dead 2. being very minor )

Modifié par Saurel, 22 février 2010 - 01:14 .

[Beechwell]

The_mango55 wrote...

The reason why it wouldn't make sense is that Wrex had the advantage over Aleena, and forced her to flee the station. While she beat Patriarch. If Patriarch was the toughest fight of her life she wouldn't have lost to Wrex.

I found the quote I was looking for:
Aria:I lean towards a particular kind of work. I tends to encourage professional rivalry. Sometimes you rather disappear than be forced to kill someone

If you interpret that as a reference to her "rivalry" with Wrex, then this seems to suggest that she never wanted to directly fight and kill Wrex, prefering to run from him instead. In that sense, her encounter(s?) with Wrex probably aren't even comparable to the one with Patriarch, since she they never really fought full force.

Of course you are right  that "toughest fight of my life" could also be an exaggeration on her part.

EDIT: Wait, maybe that means she is in love with Wrex !

Modifié par Beechwell, 22 février 2010 - 01:23 .

[The Angry One]

Wild Still wrote...

Krogan are born pissed off.

You humans are all racist.

[drunken pyromaniac]

The Angry One wrote...

Maybe Patriarch was just a better fighter in his day.
Why does Wrex have to be the best at everything?

Cuz he is Chuck Norris... in space.

[Hyper Cutter]

That "better luck next time" all but sealed it in my mind. Hell, she says it in almost the exact same way Wrex did when he was telling you the story...

[DaeJi]

She probably is; I swear you could play six degrees of Shepard and end up with half the galaxy.

[jimmyjoefro]

I wish Shepard could drop Wrex's name during their conversation.

"I had Krogan on my team before I died.  You might have known him.  Name was Wrex.  Dropped him like a child on Virmire."

Modifié par jimmyjoefro, 22 février 2010 - 04:39 .

[dreman9999]

Kerilus wrote...

Schroing wrote...

"Better luck next time" is hardly an exclusive statement.

It's not about the phase itself, but the context in which it is spoken. She said the phase right when you question about her past, with a close up emphasize on her face.

That and it's a bioware game.

[Eumerin]

Kerilus wrote...

She's the leader of a space station with two major quests and one loyalty quest on, in which you have to consult her in all three quest. She might not be as major as a squady or the council, but she is definitly not a "very minor" character.

And one buggy minor quest in which you choose whether or not to help people undermine her.

But the thing that I find most puzzling about her is her build-up - her introduction sequence (particularly the way her "Don't **** with Aira." line is handled) presents her as someone who is going to be a fairly significant character throughout the game.  But she recedes into the background fairly early on and only comes out again very briefly when you do Samara's loyalty mission.

[BlindBay7]

Sorry if this question has already been asked but where/when exactly does Wrex have this convo with Shep about Aleena? I don't remember the name coming up any time I talked to him.... Be specific please, thanks!

[DaeJi]

Eumerin wrote...

And one buggy minor quest in which you choose whether or not to help people undermine her.

But the thing that I find most puzzling about her is her build-up - her introduction sequence (particularly the way her "Don't **** with Aira." line is handled) presents her as someone who is going to be a fairly significant character throughout the game.  But she recedes into the background fairly early on and only comes out again very briefly when you do Samara's loyalty mission.

She's likely a character that will have a much larger role in Mass Effect 3; the foreshadowing is there (like how Cerberus was a small part of Mass Effect only to be one of the driving forces of the story in Mass Effect 2).

[jimmyjoefro]

BlindBay7 wrote...

Sorry if this question has already been asked but where/when exactly does Wrex have this convo with Shep about Aleena? I don't remember the name coming up any time I talked to him.... Be specific please, thanks!

In ME1 he tells you one of his merc stories about being contracted to kill a merc "buddy" named Aleena. Wrex told her about the contract, they laughed about it, and she was allowed to pick the place they would do battle. At the end of the battle, Wrex has her pinned in a med facility while the ship getting ready to blow.  He barely escapes and assumes Aleena was killed in the blast until she sends him message saying "Better luck next time".

[didymos1120]

Formally?  No.  Formerly?  Maybe.

[Ari Kagura]

BlindBay7 wrote...

Sorry if this question has already been asked but where/when exactly does Wrex have this convo with Shep about Aleena? I don't remember the name coming up any time I talked to him.... Be specific please, thanks!

You have to talk to Wrex on the Normandy after every mission or so in ME1 ... he eventually bring up the subject about Aleena.

Modifié par Ari Kagura, 22 février 2010 - 05:45 .