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[jimmyjoefro]

You can go half the galaxy in the blink of an eye. So what if it takes you a whole 2 minutes to reach Andromeda via Mass Relay?



I really don't think the Reapers would set up any inter-galactic Mass Relays. What reason would there be to allow the organics to leave? Come to think of it, the Reapers doing that would actually be counterproductive.

[Pauravi]

XX55XX wrote...

I know it's not integral to the plot or anything, but:

What about the billions of other galaxies in the universe? The game doesn't speak of them very much at all. Is there life in other galaxies?

See, here is the thing... since we already know (in ME anyway) that life is fairly abundant in the Milky Way (they have only explored 1% of it and already found dozens of species), there is basically zero reason to doubt that it would exist in other galaxies.  The most important factors determining whether life can arise are determined by the characteristics of each particular solar system and star, not by characteristics of the galaxy as a whole.  Andromeda is essentially identical to the Milky Way in every way that matters -- they are both large spiral galaxies with plenty of interstellar gas and dust, and plenty of new star formation.

On average, you'd expect find exactly the same sorts of things in Andromeda as the Milky Way.  There is no reason to think that one would be more interesting, or even particularly different, than the other.

Have anybody in the Milky Way even attempted to visit, like say, the Andomeda Galaxy, which is 2.5 million light years away? Is there a mass relay that leads to other galaxies?

That question remains unanswered, but considering that the Milky Way is largely unexplored and unutilized, I doubt that there is much interest in such a massive undertaking.

[PingoBlack]

http://en.wikipedia....ndromeda_Galaxy

This is the closest galaxy to Milky Way.

Distance, 2.5 million light years. At light speed it would take 2.5 million years to reach.
Mass Effect universe Eezo cores suffer from charge build up, making travel of that distance impossible without a mass relay.

In theory reapers could send a few sublight over there to build a Citadel class relay ... but, would they? The Milky Way they control, Andromeda might be someone else's playground.

Modifié par PingoBlack, 22 février 2010 - 10:05 .

[Balerion84]

I always wanted to visit The Great A'tuin. I'd hire the Death and then the Reapers would be screwed.

[Randy1012]

scyphozoa wrote...

seeing as how the reapers should have an infite amount of galaxies to travel to, and an infinite amount of organics to harvest - as sovereign says, organics are an inevitable mutation. so yeah, reapers should leave the milky way alone, obviously that would spoil the plot, but it doesn't make sense that organic life is an inevitability and that the reapers don't have other options in other galaxies.

I'm sure they could find plenty of other options in other galaxies, but why should they expend the energy to travel to new galaxies, construct mass relays, etc., when they already have an abundance of organic life to harvest right there in the Milky Way? It's worked for them for more than 37 million years.

[Keltoris]

XX55XX wrote...

Honestly, I think that a tie-in between Mass Effect and Dragon Age is an excellent idea.

Modifié par Keltoris, 22 février 2010 - 10:10 .

[Galimor_001]

BeyondFX wrote...

Skarwael wrote...

I would think that because other galaxies are so outrageously far away, people give them little thought. Much like people pay little mind to how big our galaxy is compared to our planet (in our time).

This. The only reason we can even traverse the galaxy is because of the mass relays. Our galaxy is over 100,000 light years wide and the nearest galaxy is 2.5 million light years away... so the chance of any interaction with it is pretty much none

Wrong. There are several smaller galaxies encircling our galaxy, the Andromeda is just the closest one of our size.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nearest_galaxies

[Zulu_DFA]

After TIM defeats the Reapers (with a little help of Commander Shepard, of course) he'll establish the Human Empire in the Milky Way galaxy. Only then he'll start planning on how to spread the human plague to other galaxies. Maybe the Reapers have the clue.

[Randy1012]

scyphozoa wrote...

Randy1083 wrote...

scyphozoa wrote...

seeing as how the reapers should have an infite amount of galaxies to travel to, and an infinite amount of organics to harvest - as sovereign says, organics are an inevitable mutation. so yeah, reapers should leave the milky way alone, obviously that would spoil the plot, but it doesn't make sense that organic life is an inevitability and that the reapers don't have other options in other galaxies.

I'm sure they could find plenty of other options in other galaxies, but why should they expend the energy to travel to new galaxies, construct mass relays, etc., when they already have an abundance of organic life to harvest right there in the Milky Way? It's worked for them for more than 37 million years.

that is my point, why would they rely exclusively on milky way for 37 million years? it makes more sense to me to say they should have already colonized numerous galaxies than just stick with milky way. the only reason we stick with milky way is because it would ruin the story of SHEP.  The moment you canonize the fact that there are trillions+ of other organic life in the universe and reapers have access to them, then there is no reason for the milky way to be pursued.

i have an extremely hard time believing the reapers haven't colonized 1 other galaxy in 37 million years.

Ah, I get you now. Earlier in the thread I posited a similar opinion. I also pointed out that relatively expedient travel between galaxies via mass relays could potentially be possible, so if the writers wanted, they could easily turn the Reapers into a multigalactic threat.

[Gill Kaiser]

It'd take over 500 years at full FTL speeds to reach the edge of the Andromeda galaxy. Also, it wouldn't be possible at the current level of technology because there would be nothing to discharge their drive cores on.

[adam_grif]

If there was other life in other galaxies, and there should be, they would have visited by now. They probably have. I'm expecting a reveal that the reapers have an analog in every galaxy, they might not have even been native to the Milky Way.

[Sabre120]

Well done for pointing out the drive discharge thing, it would be impossible in the ME universe, even if they had infinite fuel and infinite life, because they would just boil inside the hull due to the drive core not being able to get discharged. Maybe a codex entry about attempts to get to another galaxy but nothing more than that.

[dwwilson57]

Here's my question:  how did the Reapers get into darkspace to being with, and how did they realistically build the mass relay network to begin with -- like, it'd have taken forever.  Patience? 

Or: there is something that the Reapers know that the civilizations of the milky way don't.  Perhaps mass relays don't actually need a relay on the receiving end, and can just "fire blind" -- and the Reapers built the mass relay network by firing material for a new relay blindly through an established relay.  The Protheans on Ilos had something like this -- a one-way mass relay.

Sovereign does say "We impose order on the chaos of the organic evolution." He doesn't restrict it to the Milky Way.  I wouldn't be surprised to discover that the Reapers harvest other galaxies too; I wouldn't be surprised to discover the Reapers are extragalactic beings to begin with.

edit: for misquote.

Modifié par dwwilson57, 22 février 2010 - 12:22 .

[DaveTheJackal]

XX55XX wrote...

I know it's not integral to the plot or anything, but:

What about the billions of other galaxies in the universe? The game doesn't speak of them very much at all. Is there life in other galaxies? Have anybody in the Milky Way even attempted to visit, like say, the Andomeda Galaxy, which is 2.5 million light years away? Is there a mass relay that leads to other galaxies?

The characters of Mass Effect certainly do not spend very much time talking about the possibilities...

Something to definitely ponder about.

Maybe this is the reveal at the end of ME3 .. the reapers are merely the pawns of the pangalaticuberreapers.

[Homebound]

We already need the Relays to travel around our OWN Galaxy. How do we travel to ANOTHER Galaxy? When the distances between galaxies can be at the scope of a desert between 2 cities?

[Homebound]

DaveTheJackal wrote...

XX55XX wrote...

I know it's not integral to the plot or anything, but:

What about the billions of other galaxies in the universe? The game doesn't speak of them very much at all. Is there life in other galaxies? Have anybody in the Milky Way even attempted to visit, like say, the Andomeda Galaxy, which is 2.5 million light years away? Is there a mass relay that leads to other galaxies?

The characters of Mass Effect certainly do not spend very much time talking about the possibilities...

Something to definitely ponder about.

Maybe this is the reveal at the end of ME3 .. the reapers are merely the pawns of the pangalaticuberreapers.

What we REALLY need is an Infinite probability drive.

[DaveTheJackal]

Just_mike wrote...

What we REALLY need is an Infinite probability drive.

We already have is Eddie, I mean EDI, the shipboard computer.

[DaveTheJackal]

The Normandy 2 has a mass effect drive. What if the reapers have something similar but better and/or used it to move a ME gate out to deep space?

[MutantSpleen]

You travel from Mass Relay to Mass Relay, there is no end relay in another galaxy. It would take forever to get anywhere outside of the galaxy. You would also not have enough fuel to travel by normal means.

[Suron]

IronVanguard wrote...

Ah yes, "other galaxies"

Large groups of stars that are not our own far, far away.
We have dismissed these claims.

haven't you seen Star Wars?  I think that's proof enough that other galaxies exist with life and different "physics and laws" then our own galaxy...how else did that documentary come about?

[SnakeHelah]

I suppose it is nice to speculate on this in real life, but seriously about A sci-fi game? They can think up of anything.

[ComTrav]

PARAGON87 wrote...

In a couple billion years, the Milky Way and Andromeda are set to collide, so there's your extragalactic colonization right there!

The interesting thing about this, is that galaxies are mostly empty space, so it's possible for two to collide without any physical collisions of stars, planets, or other matter. They do interact gravitationally however;  so-called 'irregular galaxies' might be the result of such a crash.

[FataliTensei]

i don't think other galxies will be that important in Mass Effect lol, too far away