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[spartan5127]

I hope so.

[alickar]

i hope so too

[Daeion]

Tibilicus wrote...

Daeion wrote...

Tibilicus wrote...

Only a select few.

I feel that most however will have more important tasks elsewhere, Tali, legion and Grunt to name a few.

I also don't get the people who want the exact same squad from ME2 in ME3. Do you have no idea how keeping a franchise fresh works? ME2 worked because we got a new squad, sure, Tali and Garus were there for some familiarity but the point is a new squad brought a new game and a better game to the table.

Keeping everyone from the ME2 squad as your ME3 squad would be a huge mistake from a game development point of view. I don't want my game to be ruined because some people have an e-attraction to certain ME2 characters. I want Bioware to continue the formula of keeping the series fresh but familiar.

If you need to keep introducing a brand new cast to keep people interested, then you suck at writing.  Star Wars works off of a core group with a few extras thrown in who don't overshadow the original cast, same with LOTR, The Matrix, Harry Potter, and every other continuing story franchise I can think of.  This is the finale of the trilogy, this is not the time to introduce more new squad mates and try to develop them to the extent of which the ME2 crew was developed.  There should be enough stuff to do in ME3 in dealing with the reapers to keep it "fresh."

Actually I wouldn't mind if we get a choice of ME1 and ME2 characters but the exact same squad? Garunte it will make Mass Effect 3 feel like Mass Effect 2.5. I also get where your coming from when you list continuing story in franchises, but your missing a key point. All the franchises you listed are films or books, not games. Are you telling me you would have fun with the exact same squad using the same abilities we've already seen in ME2 Because it would be pretty hard to change them without giving an explanation.They can't just say "hey, we gave Jacob some new biotics so he doesn't suck now", it wouldn't work.

I get that ME2 was more about building the team than beating the bad guys as most missions revolved around your team and yes, I want ME3 to be much more focused on beating the bad guys, but I also want to game to feel fresh. Also what happens if I want to get most of my squad killed? I don't think Bioware plans to make this squad we currently have the team we beat the reapers with, at least not the majority of it, I can understand why as well.

We shouldn't need anymore squad mates then would already be available, just consider bring the ME crew back their way of making it fresh since they've all changed, especially Liara .  Honestly I would have had more fun with the ME squad and about half the ME2 squad then I did with the entire ME2 squad, the only time Jacob, Jack, Zaeed, Garrus, or Thane come with me is on their loyalty missions and when I decide I need to take them all with me so I can leave the ship open to attack.  Here's the thing with the ME franchise, they have said they want to make it like playing an interactive movie, so I think they shiould develop like a movie.  I'd be all for them giving the chars new abilities and I think BW is one of the few companies who if they actually put their mind to it could come up with a good way to impliment it.

If you want ME3 to focus on taking out the Reapers, then how can you want a new squad?  You're either going to have to spend too much time developing them or they won't get developed at which point they might as well just give us random red shirts, same thing with if you got your crew killed.  You killed them, deal with the fact that no one wants to join you because they are afraid that you will get them killed.

[Daeion]

Spear-Thrower wrote...

There will be new squad members in ME3. A few favorites might return but since anyone can die none of these should be vital to the story. Bioware has its work cut out if they intend to keep all the originals and add new recruits for those who died. And no, I don't believe in 'punishing' players that lost alot of guys. Replacements should be available.

It's called living with your choices, you got them killed, now deal with it.  What is it with people now days that they can't handle a game that actually makes your choices count even when you don't like it...  I missed a few things in Bioshock because I killed  a certain person before I should have, I didn't go cry about it.

[CROAT_56]

Spear-Thrower wrote...

Daeion wrote...
It's called living with your choices, you got them killed, now deal with it.  What is it with people now days that they can't handle a game that actually makes your choices count even when you don't like it...  I missed a few things in Bioshock because I killed  a certain person before I should have, I didn't go cry about it.

You will have a full squad in ME3... just not those who died, obviously. It's ridiculous to think that Shepard would not get replacements. Half a team to face the Reapers? Laughable! And since people are paying money for these games, I don't think asking them to "deal with it" is wise. Bioware won't short-change players.

Bioware isnt short changing anyone they just made the game its not BW's fault that people couldn't get there squad out alive IMO those that got there squad killed get 2-3 replacements but not a full roster wasting time and recources to make new charecters to be in your squad in the last game of a trilagy is pointless

[Zeratul20]

I'm really curious about this as well. I wonder how they'll tackle the end of Mass Effect 2. Seeing as, if you handed over the base to the Illusive Man, you're effectively still a part of Cerberus (well, mostly, anyway), whereas blowing it up means you've defected. I'd really like to see how they'll tackle that.

[CROAT_56]

Spear-Thrower wrote...

CROAT_56 wrote...
Bioware isnt short changing anyone they just made the game its not BW's fault that people couldn't get there squad out alive IMO those that got there squad killed get 2-3 replacements but not a full roster wasting time and recources to make new charecters to be in your squad in the last game of a trilagy is pointless

The kind of replacements I'd expect are DLC like Zaeed. You have the choice to use them or not. So it would be quite easy to swap out team mates or replace those who died. Some people have different playstyles - they like to follow the main story and not dwell on loyalty missions. They might not have realized squad recruitment was the story... hehe

agreed i just don't know its only been a month since release and we have two years till ME3 but i said thin in another thread if BW can track if we cheated by  achievements why couldnt they do the same with the crew

Modifié par CROAT_56, 23 février 2010 - 09:19 .

[AsheraII]

I'm hoping that there's going to be a pool of 20-30 recruitable squadmembers, who will be available depending on choices you made in previous games, with a couple of them also being mutually exclusive, so your actual teamsize still wouldn't be much bigger than, say, 10-12 members. It would be a HUGE job for the writers to set all this up though.
Aria: Available if given the proper infos in ME2 while some info on her has been withheld from others. Mutually exclusive with Wrex.

Ashley: available if survived ME1, mutually exclusive with Kaiden.
Garrus: Available if you ended ME2 in an active romance with him. Otherwise Kolyat takes his place.
Grunt: Availaible if given the chance to live in ME2, available to ME3 characters with the War Hero background. Mutually exclusive with Legion and Shiala.
Jacob: Available if both he and Miranda survived ME2, but they are mutually exclusive.
Jack: Available if you ended ME2 in an active romance with her.
Kaiden: available if survived ME1, mutually exclusive with Ashley.
Legion: Available if given the chance to live in ME2, available to ME3 characters with Ruthless background. Mutually exclusive with Grunt and Shiala.
Morinth: Available if she survived ME2, mutually exclusive with Samara.
Liara: Only available to players from ME1 and ME2. ME2 players will need to have done her missions on Illium to gain her approval.
Miranda: Available if both she and Jacob survived ME2, but they are mutually exclusive.
Samara: Available if she survived ME2. Mutually exclusive with Morinth.
Shiala: Available if given the chance to live in ME1, available to ME2/3 characters who didn't play ME1 but have the Sole Survivor background. Mutually exclusive with Grunt and Legion.
Tali: Available if you ended ME2 in an active romance with her, otherwise a mechanic from a Batarian slaveship takes her place.
Thane: Available if you ended ME2 in an active romance with him.
Wrex: Available if he survived ME1, mutually exclusive with Aria.

Sooooo that's 16 old squadmates already, of which upto 8 are available together, depending on decisions made previously. Another 10-15 new squadmates can be introduced, some to fill gaps left by those unavailable, others just to make the pool a bit bigger. New potential squadmates might still be mutually exclusive with certain old ones. And yes, it'd be possible to get a pool with 4 Asari or 2 Krogan and/or 2 Drell. Such a party make up could in turn have quite an effect on human-council relations in the epilogue (3 Asari being pro-council, 2 Krogan being contra council, 2 Drell making the council more receptive towards species with a smaller population, like the Drell and the Volus)

Modifié par AsheraII, 23 février 2010 - 11:32 .

[mopotter]

I would like to be able to recruit from a large group including some of the survivors from ME1 and 2. But I don't want them all to join my team, I want to pick 5 or 6 to travel with me. It would make it harder for me, because I'd have to pick carefully.

[SurfaceBeneath]

It'll probably be more or less half and half honestly. I think all LIs will likely return. Other than that... it could go either way. I don't think Samara or Mordin will come back as party members for example.



We can hope everyone returns in addition to a couple new ones though! MAKE IT HAPPEN BIOWARE!

[Lvl20DM]

I don't think they will do this, nor do I think it would be a good idea. Part of what makes these games so good is getting to know the characters. Most of the ME 2 cast is given good reasons to leave after the suicide mission is complete. The rest have reasons at least hinted at.



Shepherd will not be the only person battling the Reapers, many characters can do their part without joining the crew of the Normandy. We don't even know the plot of the 3rd game, it really doesn't make sense to say that all the characters from the first 2 games should join your squad.

[InvaderErl]

I want EVERYBODY back but particularly the people from 2.

[Bann Duncan]

Lol I'm imagining what would happen if Tali wasn't an ME3 squadmate.

[Daeion]

Spear-Thrower wrote...

Daeion wrote...
It's called living with your choices, you got them killed, now deal with it.  What is it with people now days that they can't handle a game that actually makes your choices count even when you don't like it...  I missed a few things in Bioshock because I killed  a certain person before I should have, I didn't go cry about it.

You will have a full squad in ME3... just not those who died, obviously. It's ridiculous to think that Shepard would not get replacements. Half a team to face the Reapers? Laughable! And since people are paying money for these games, I don't think asking them to "deal with it" is wise. Bioware won't short-change players.

I'm not saying you wouldn't have a full squad, just that IMO your squad just be made up of random redshirts then because you obviously don't care about your crew.  Bioware keeps talking about making our choices count, well here's a major one that while not affecting gameplay would affect the story and reward those who used their brain.  So it's ok for Bioware to tell people to deal with the fact that ME Li's and Wrex play through away rolls in ME2 but it's not ot for them to tell people to deal with the fac that they got their squad killed because they either didn't care or weren't smart enough to figure it out?

[SurfaceBeneath]

Bann Duncan wrote...

Lol I'm imagining what would happen if Tali wasn't an ME3 squadmate.

The QQ of Talifans everywhere would block out the sun.

I would rofl in the shade.

[Daeion]

Spear-Thrower wrote...

CROAT_56 wrote...
Bioware isnt short changing anyone they just made the game its not BW's fault that people couldn't get there squad out alive IMO those that got there squad killed get 2-3 replacements but not a full roster wasting time and recources to make new charecters to be in your squad in the last game of a trilagy is pointless

The kind of replacements I'd expect are DLC like Zaeed. You have the choice to use them or not. So it would be quite easy to swap out team mates or replace those who died. Some people have different playstyles - they like to follow the main story and not dwell on loyalty missions. They might not have realized squad recruitment was the story... hehe

I'm fine with the replacements being like Zaeed, I mean he might as well be a red shirt since ou can't interact with him.  I just don't want BW wasting their time on new squad mates, there's going to be enough to do taking down the reapers, I don't need to add recruiting replacements to the list.  But really people go their crew killed that they can't just make another char and run it again, I imported a lvl 60 ME char, played on hardcore, and finished in 22.5 hours doing everything there was to do in the game.

Modifié par Daeion, 23 février 2010 - 02:03 .

[Daeion]

mopotter wrote...

I would like to be able to recruit from a large group including some of the survivors from ME1 and 2. But I don't want them all to join my team, I want to pick 5 or 6 to travel with me. It would make it harder for me, because I'd have to pick carefully.

Everyone gets kidnapped by the Shadow Broker or Blue Suns or w/e, you have to save them but you can only save half the crew, who do you save?  now that would be making your choices matter.

[Daeion]

Bann Duncan wrote...

Lol I'm imagining what would happen if Tali wasn't an ME3 squadmate.

I'd be fine with it but good lord we wouldn't be able to visit the forums a  month and there would probably be lots of bannd accounts.

[Jackal904]

Daeion wrote...

Spear-Thrower wrote...

There will be new squad members in ME3. A few favorites might return but since anyone can die none of these should be vital to the story. Bioware has its work cut out if they intend to keep all the originals and add new recruits for those who died. And no, I don't believe in 'punishing' players that lost alot of guys. Replacements should be available.

It's called living with your choices, you got them killed, now deal with it.  What is it with people now days that they can't handle a game that actually makes your choices count even when you don't like it...  I missed a few things in Bioshock because I killed  a certain person before I should have, I didn't go cry about it.

Exactly! If you were not smart enough to keep your entire team alive throughout ME2, then you're damn well going to live with the consequences of not having a bigger team in ME3. Mass Effect is all about decisions and consequences. How the hell can players actually experience consequences when something just makes up for your stupid decision. People need to grow some balls seriously. God forbid something bad actually happens in a game when you make a stupid choice.

There should be no new squadmates in ME3. All your squadmates in ME3 should be surviving squadmates from ME2 and ME1, that's it. If half your squad died in ME2, too bad, you allowed that to happen by making incorrect decisions, therefore you will suffer the consequences.

Modifié par Jackal904, 23 février 2010 - 02:29 .

[Bann Duncan]

Jackal904 wrote...

Daeion wrote...

Spear-Thrower wrote...

There will be new squad members in ME3. A few favorites might return but since anyone can die none of these should be vital to the story. Bioware has its work cut out if they intend to keep all the originals and add new recruits for those who died. And no, I don't believe in 'punishing' players that lost alot of guys. Replacements should be available.

It's called living with your choices, you got them killed, now deal with it.  What is it with people now days that they can't handle a game that actually makes your choices count even when you don't like it...  I missed a few things in Bioshock because I killed  a certain person before I should have, I didn't go cry about it.

Exactly! If you were not smart enough to keep your entire team alive throughout ME2, then you're damn well going to live with the consequences of not having a bigger team in ME3. Mass Effect is all about decisions and consequences. How the hell can players actually experience consequences when something just makes up for your stupid decision. People need to grow some balls seriously. God forbid something bad actually happens in a game when you make a stupid choice.

There should be no new squadmates in ME3. All your squadmates in ME3 should be surviving squadmates from ME2 and ME1, that's it. If half your squad died in ME2, too bad, you allowed that to happen by making incorrect decisions, therefore you will suffer the consequences.

Rem acu tetigisti.

Modifié par Bann Duncan, 23 février 2010 - 02:32 .

[Tamcia]

Yes, in ME3 everyone not dead should be recruit able. I know Wrex has important business, but come on- galaxy is about to be purged, whats the point of being krogan warlord if all krogan are dead? Kaidan/Ash - they did not join because of Cerberus, but now its just reapers or against them. Liara - dam I miss her, hope she is in, because really - reapers gonna kill everyone if Shephard fails.



All survivors are expected to be there. No point of saving them in ME2 then if they are just cameo.



But seriously: Liara, Tali and Garrus are a must. Mordin, Miranda, Samara, Legion and Thane are a must as well.

[Jackal904]

mopotter wrote...

I would like to be able to recruit from a large group including some of the survivors from ME1 and 2. But I don't want them all to join my team, I want to pick 5 or 6 to travel with me. It would make it harder for me, because I'd have to pick carefully.

That's a terrible idea. What are they just guna line up for you and you pick a few like you're choosing a team for high school dodgeball?