Does that mean Oghren will become a grey warden? That'd be awesome. I'm sure he could survive the joining since darkspawn blood is probably healthier than everything else he drinks.
If the plot is all about rebuilding the Wardens, and Oghren is returning...
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Posté 22 février 2010 - 06:02
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I'm guessing there's a good chance.
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Posté 22 février 2010 - 06:35
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Being with grey warden doesn't mean he must be a grey warden, however...it would be interesting to see him official join a grey warden.
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Posté 22 février 2010 - 06:40
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I hope he will be. I never understood why you could never ask any of the party members in DAO if they wanted to become a grey warden.
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Posté 22 février 2010 - 06:50
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contown wrote...
I hope he will be. I never understood why you could never ask any of the party members in DAO if they wanted to become a grey warden.
As far as I know it was because you:
A. Didn't have any arch demon's blood
B. Didn't know how to prepare the ritual.
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Posté 22 février 2010 - 06:51
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That's actually a good idea. Then he wouldn't be able to breed.
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Posté 22 février 2010 - 06:54
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If we're going to be recruiting in Awakening, I think it's going to be harder not telling people what they're in for than dealing with any of the ethical problems in Origins
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Posté 22 février 2010 - 07:55
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Something just occured to me, this recruiting of Wardens thing in Awakening sounds a hell of a lot like a smaller version of the plot of ME2 ... not sure what to think about that ... certainly not sure if I'm thrilled by it.
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Posté 22 février 2010 - 08:01
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That's what we're told.... and then Loghain suddenly can join up? That's the main reason I never recruit him. It makes no goddamn sense with everything Riordan has told you.MandatoryDenial1 wrote...
contown wrote...
I hope he will be. I never understood why you could never ask any of the party members in DAO if they wanted to become a grey warden.
As far as I know it was because you:
A. Didn't have any arch demon's blood
B. Didn't know how to prepare the ritual.
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Posté 22 février 2010 - 08:18
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Ah, but until you find the other Warden you have no one with you who possesses the knowledge ... apparently he did - or somesuch - and they are then able. There is a fair ammount of material that must necessarily happen behind the scenes, so you won't see every discovery, every event which occurs that you're not directly involved with ... things which are lost can be found and all that.
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Posté 22 février 2010 - 09:37
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Wasn't that supposed to be in DA:O, but got cut for some reason (Time? Didn't fit the character concepts?).contown wrote...
I hope he will be. I never understood why you could never ask any of the party members in DAO if they wanted to become a grey warden.
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Posté 22 février 2010 - 10:32
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and if we are able to recruit wont some party members instantly die??
not everybody survives the joining!!
not everybody survives the joining!!
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Posté 22 février 2010 - 10:39
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Well ... it wouldn't be much of a party if your people died as soon as you recruited them ... though having you go on a mission to get one, and solve their mini quest only to have him/her die in the joining would be very poignant.
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Posté 22 février 2010 - 10:42
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but it would REALLY be stooopid if every party member can become a full gray warden!!
in origins only the main char survived! the others died!!
in origins only the main char survived! the others died!!
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Posté 22 février 2010 - 10:47
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Well, the available info seems to suggest that you can *choose* to put people through the Joining. If this is so, its possible they might have a random chance of dying when you do, maybe influenced by certain factors (*cough*loyalty*cough*). TBH, if this is the main focus, it does sound a lot like ME2 - but the recruiting was the best part of ME2, so I don't really mind that. The plot ****ing sucked.
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Posté 22 février 2010 - 10:56
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loyality in me2 is a lot easier then DAO!!
do the mission and they are loyal!
in DAO you say the wrong thing or do the wrong thing you suffer!!
do the mission and they are loyal!
in DAO you say the wrong thing or do the wrong thing you suffer!!
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Posté 22 février 2010 - 11:04
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i'm looking forward to how they'll handle the whole Joining process, and yeah i agree that the ME2 loyalty mission determine survivability mechanic is probably the most straightforward route
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Posté 22 février 2010 - 11:13
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Shady314 wrote...
That's what we're told.... and then Loghain suddenly can join up? That's the main reason I never recruit him. It makes no goddamn sense with everything Riordan has told you.MandatoryDenial1 wrote...
contown wrote...
I hope he will be. I never understood why you could never ask any of the party members in DAO if they wanted to become a grey warden.
As far as I know it was because you:
A. Didn't have any arch demon's blood
B. Didn't know how to prepare the ritual.
Riordan said Denerim's supply of archdemon blood was siezed from the vault when Loghain took over, so it makes sense it would become available again once the throne is taken by Anora.
As to why no other people were recruited...maybe no one wanted to join or no one was suitable?
I'd have thought it'd be hard to invite a friend to become a Grey Warden, since there's every chance they'd *die* if they accepted. We know Zevran didn't want to be one (he says so at the end). Wynne would be too old (Loghain in the epilogue doesn't last long as a Warden because of his age). Morrigan would never do it since it would wreck her plans. Shale's a golem, so no go. That leaves Oghren, Leliana and Sten. Sten is obligated to return home (if you find his sword for him) so he wouldn't be a Warden willingly, I think. If you play a dwarf character you learn from Alistair there haven't been any GW dwarves in a long time, likely because they spend most of their lives fighting darkspawn underground and see no need to be Wardens to do their job. Leliana?
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Posté 22 février 2010 - 11:42
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Spitz6860 wrote...
i'm looking forward to how they'll handle the whole Joining process, and yeah i agree that the ME2 loyalty mission determine survivability mechanic is probably the most straightforward route
me2 was too easy in the end!!
just DO everything before iff
every loyal mission and every upgrade.
then everybody lives!
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Posté 22 février 2010 - 11:51
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Well, yeah and that was pretty straightforward - you still have to assign appropriate people to the specific tasks, though. But this isn't the ME2 section of the forum. I do agree that do quest = loyal is an overly simplistic way of doing it, which is why i greatly prefer the approval system DA:O had - and which will return in DA:O-A. I was simply intimating that a loyalty/approval-related system for Joining survival would be the most straightforward method short of it being utterly random (which would be an interesting mechanic in itself - from an RP perspective at least).
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Posté 22 février 2010 - 12:23
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MandatoryDenial1 wrote...
contown wrote...
I hope he will be. I never understood why you could never ask any of the party members in DAO if they wanted to become a grey warden.
As far as I know it was because you:
A. Didn't have any arch demon's blood
B. Didn't know how to prepare the ritual.
I thought any darkspawn blood will do ...
That was the point of the Wilds mission at Ostagar - to collect 3 vials of darkspawn blood for the ritual... No arch demon blood was needed there...
Convo with Alistair tells you the joining ritual preparation takes special magic and lyrum. I suspect Awakening will involve quests to to find such, along with the missing darkspawn blood from the Grey Wardens HQ.
This seems more likely since Oghren is around, and there is a strong link between dwarves and the lyrium trade.
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Posté 22 février 2010 - 12:26
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According to a few of the hands on, you get to pick and choose who becomes grey wardens... it also says you'll get to position your troops. So I don't know if that means companions or NPC's you can recruite or what. But yes, I think Oghren will become a gray warden.
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Posté 22 février 2010 - 12:29
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bri193 wrote...
I thought any darkspawn blood will do ...
That was the point of the Wilds mission at Ostagar - to collect 3 vials of darkspawn blood for the ritual... No arch demon blood was needed there...
Convo with Alistair tells you the joining ritual preparation takes special magic and lyrum. I suspect Awakening will involve quests to to find such, along with the missing darkspawn blood from the Grey Wardens HQ.
This seems more likely since Oghren is around, and there is a strong link between dwarves and the lyrium trade.
Mages and an undefined ritual can treat regular darkspawn blood for the purpose, but of course you need mages who know the ritual for that. Those at Ostagar almost all perished, and a number more died at the Circle of course...
Not that there aren't more around, but fully trained mages don't grow on trees.
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Posté 22 février 2010 - 01:21
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MandatoryDenial1 wrote...
That was the point of the Wilds mission at Ostagar - to collect 3 vials of darkspawn blood for the ritual... No arch demon blood was needed there...
Your ignoring the very likely possibillity that since Duncan was out on a recruiting mission he bought some of the arch demon blood with him to Ostergar.
