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[Revanesque]

I agree completely. There's no... inflections... or something. He just sounds the same, no matter what he's saying.

Like when you talk the captured Krogan scout into going back to Urdknot. Male Shep doesn't sound at all scornful or scoffing, like the dialogue would indicate. He speaks almost matter-of-factly. He could be saying 'You know what would be good right now? A cup of hot cocoa.' AND IT WOULD SOUND EXACTLY THE SAME. D:

[cutthecameras]

I dunno. It's different.

With male shepard I feel like being renegade is hilarious. Like, "haha what a complete ****** this guy is." But with female shepard I almost feel guilty being renegade sometimes; the way she says things when she's being really mean just makes me feel sorry for the person on the receiving end.

Modifié par cutthecameras, 22 février 2010 - 09:03 .

[Jazharah]

eh, nothing against Canadians, though I must admit I giggled when in the conversation with Helena Blake (if you convinced her to disband the organization) Ms Hale gets a bit very Canadian. "EH" at the end of a line, 3 times in a row.

I just made another femshep. I'm just gonna stick with Shepard being female in my lifetime.

[cutthecameras]

Jazharah wrote...

eh, nothing against Canadians, though I must admit I giggled when in the conversation with Helena Blake (if you convinced her to disband the organization) Ms Hale gets a bit very Canadian. "EH" at the end of a line, 3 times in a row.
I just made another femshep. I'm just gonna stick with Shepard being female in my lifetime.

oh snap. That makes me realize that I've never actually been able to finish a male shep playthrough.

[TheTrac3r]

dantesfire10 wrote...

the casual voice fits in perfectly with a Renegade maleshep.

Renegade Shep is definitely a great thing to at least try in ME2.  Like dante said, it's casual, and when renegade, sarcastic and pure ***hole. 

As for paragon? Yeah, I guess the female voice is a bit better.  More believable....though, paragon in the ME universe is beyond saintly, so it's a bit sweet to the taste with any voice.

[Tooneyman]

I like it all. Who gives?

[Terraneaux]

Paragon Meer is boring. It's pretty obvious he was way into his Renegade lines.

[Wompoo]

OP, yes his voice is flat uninspiring and at some points feels like someone is asking him to cough. Does nothing for me as well. Although I have completed a few missions with him for ME3 transfers, hopefully he'll have an acting lesson or 2 before then.

[Gill Kaiser]

Meer was great in ME2. I think your judgement is being clouded by your experience of ME1. In ME2 I noticed a number of situations in which Meer was actually better than Hale, and much of the other time he wasn't worse, just different.

[cutthecameras]

TheTrac3r wrote...

dantesfire10 wrote...

the casual voice fits in perfectly with a Renegade maleshep.

Renegade Shep is definitely a great thing to at least try in ME2.  Like dante said, it's casual, and when renegade, sarcastic and pure ***hole. 

As for paragon? Yeah, I guess the female voice is a bit better.  More believable....though, paragon in the ME universe is beyond saintly, so it's a bit sweet to the taste with any voice.

Am I alone in thinking Paragon choices pack more of a punch in ME2 than in ME1?...I'm just thinking about all the mean things shepard says if you pick paragon with certain people.

[Prophet of Rage]

"I might do more than catch you, Kelly." AHAHAHHA, KILL YOURSELF.





renegade shep is a badass, though.

[Default137]

How can you not want to play that

Modifié par Default137, 22 février 2010 - 09:14 .

[Gabey5]

do you want a medal? join the bandwagon

[Schneidend]

I like them both, but prefer Meer. It's fine not to like Meer's voice acting, but the problem I have with some of his detractors is that they make the same mistakes Hale does in her acting: overacting. Meer may deliver some flat lines, but at least he doesn't ham it up like Hale often does. Ham only works well for a select handful of actors, and I don't count Hale among them.

[yummysoap]

Hello. I like Meer more than Hale.

I also don't make stupid threads about how much more I like Meer because I understand that nobody else gives a sh*t.

Bye.

Modifié par yummysoap, 22 février 2010 - 09:26 .

[TheTrac3r]

cutthecameras wrote...

TheTrac3r wrote...

dantesfire10 wrote...

the casual voice fits in perfectly with a Renegade maleshep.

Renegade Shep is definitely a great thing to at least try in ME2.  Like dante said, it's casual, and when renegade, sarcastic and pure ***hole. 

As for paragon? Yeah, I guess the female voice is a bit better.  More believable....though, paragon in the ME universe is beyond saintly, so it's a bit sweet to the taste with any voice.

Am I alone in thinking Paragon choices pack more of a punch in ME2 than in ME1?...I'm just thinking about all the mean things shepard says if you pick paragon with certain people.

No, I in fact played/will continue to play 100% Paragon (I actually think you can still do evil things, as a full paragon.  They're "complex" evil rather than direct evil).

I was more pointing out, like, I agree that male Shepard can be a little "casual" in his tone.  And he sometimes is (inflection wise) in Paragon options.  In Renegade however, he is more expressive in his tone.  Donwright mocking, pissed, etc etc... a better range.

<- my personal fave

"What am I doing here?  WHAT are YOU doing here!?  Get outta here!"
"Wha...what?"
"RUUUUN"
"O...okay!"
"Hahah.  I can't believe that actually worked" :>

Modifié par TheTrac3r, 22 février 2010 - 09:36 .

[drakkan1021]

The only thing that I like in Meer's VA is that some of his Renegade lines sound funnier than Hale's. Besides my only playthrough on ME1 with a male character (I made him a single pure Renegade) I always play with FemShep.

[Spyndel]

Actors are often only as good as the direction they get. I know for a fact Martin Sheen is a good actor, yet someone told him to just read lines off a page like he was narrating a documentary.



Maybe it was intentional , for all I know...I imagine taking time for dramatic pauses and inflections increases file size. Im sure cadence is also an issue...you cant really get on a roll so much when theres little continuity to the phrasing. The lines could be read in any order. Maybe even they wanted the leads to sound more homogeneous in their speech, so you could read more of yourself into them, and they didnt stand out as distinct a character as some of the other NPcs.



Either way, this is all nitpicking. ME2 is a very well voiced game compared to nearly any other video game I can think of, and at the end of the day the fault, if any, lies with Bioware. Don't pick on the actors...it's always the director's job to put an actor in a position to shine, and to polish the finished product.

[GodWood]

I don't get these debates neither is really better than the other,

[Gill Kaiser]

Really? I thought Sheen was awesome as the Illusive Man...

[Computron2000]

I notice that tboth tend to keep their tones even. I believe this is because it would sound very very strange if you selected one renegade dialog wheel option where they would ne screaming then at the next dialog wheel select a paragon one where they would be totally nice.



To maintain tone cohesion, i'm thinking they were told to keep emotional vvoices out until cutscenes like Tali's trial

[Remaix]

Default137 wrote...



How can you not want to play that

Oh dear god kill it kill it kill it! D:

[Aradace]

While I do admit that Mark Meer is definately NOT one of the better Voice Actors Ive heard (by leaps and bounds). He's not exactly the worst either. And as long as he's not the worst, I can just out right ignore him. I do understand though why some folks refuse to play a male Shep because of his voice. It does seem to be, missing "Something".