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[T0paze]

Before Shepard goes to Horizon, Mordin informs him that he has develped a protective device against seeker swarms. We see how he runs some experiments using an individual seeker insect. The question is, where did he get it?

Also, if that's not a genuine seeker insect, but rather some experimental analogue, then how did Mordin know what kind of technology those swarms employ?

Also, if those insects were available, then why was Mordin needed? Sure, he's good, but I doubt that whole research teams with sophisticated equipment and very generous funding couldn't do something that a retired Salarian professor did alone in a makeshift laboratory within what appears to be a rather short period of time.

Modifié par T0paze, 22 février 2010 - 03:08 .

[keginkc]

I was wondering that myself. The only thing I could think of was that the Quarian was able to grab one on Freedom's Progress, but it seemed odd, since the Collectors to that point had left no traces of their presence.

[MaaZeus]

AFAIK that is one of the biggest plot holes in ME2. Perhaps there was something cut from the game but this was accidentally left in? There might be theories, but as long as there is nothing in game that would hint what happened, they are just theories.

[Jalem001]

Something I wondered too. I assumed Cerberus acquired one somehow and sent it to the ship.

[Beerfish]

I assumed he made it himself following information and or samples they obtained on Horizon. The guy is a genius after all.

[DaveTheJackal]

Later they also mention no one has ever come across any collector tech or DNA ...

Modifié par DaveTheJackal, 22 février 2010 - 03:12 .

[kraidy1117]

Most Likely Cerberus gave Mordin a box of them, or since Mordin ALOT about Collectors, it is possible he caught one awhile back. One of the few plot holes THAT really is a plot hole.

[AngryFrozenWater]

They could have found one during Tali's first encounter?

[MaaZeus]

I wouldnt mind a DLC where this gets patched as this confuses a lot of people. hint hint Bioware?

[T0paze]

The seekers are technological devices. Mordin probably created one with the data you get from Veetor on Freedom's Progress.

Unlikely.

First of all, there's no indication of that anywhere in the game. Second, the Illusive Man says that the data provided by the quarians was, in fact, nothing new. It was more a sign of good will than anything else.

Modifié par T0paze, 22 février 2010 - 03:16 .

[Mondo47]

Asyrath wrote...

The seekers are technological devices. Mordin probably created one with the data you get from Veetor on Freedom's Progress.

That was my take on it too.

[Jeremy Winston]

Oops.. nevermind.

Modifié par Jeremy Winston, 22 février 2010 - 03:30 .

[Recnamoken]

Beerfish wrote...

I assumed he made it himself following information and or samples they obtained on Horizon. The guy is a genius after all.

To develop a protection they can use on horizon? That, sir is really a big plot hole. I think you mean Freedom's Progress, not Horizon.

[klossen4]

plothole

[kraidy1117]

MaaZeus wrote...

I wouldnt mind a DLC where this gets patched as this confuses a lot of people. hint hint Bioware?

How does it confuse people? There is many ways mordin could have got one, not confusing, it's a plot hole but it's not confusing. I think Cerberus just gave him a box of Seeker swarm bugs

[DarthCaine]

It doesn't really matter. Cerberus probably found it

There are more important plot holes that need to be explained (like Wilson betrayal and Harbinger's interest in Shepard)

The biggest problem I have with ME2 is that there are so many things left unexplained (plot holes)

[cruc1al]

AngryFrozenWater wrote...

They could have found one during Tali's first encounter?

Yes could've but it's not said anywhere they did. Plot hole is a plot hole.

Modifié par cruc1al, 22 février 2010 - 03:16 .

[Exile Isan]

Asyrath wrote...

The seekers are technological devices. Mordin probably created one with the data you get from Veetor on Freedom's Progress.

This. Veetor took extense scans of the Collectors and of the swarm on Freedom's Progress (incidentally this is the first of three times that dark engery is mentioned in this game). It stands to reason that Mordin, being the genuis he is, created a seeker from said scans. They are just machines after all.

[Br0th3rGr1mm]

Shep tells Mordin you have samples but does not give any details where they came from. This is a MINOR plot hole compared to some of the biggies elsewhere in the ME1 and ME2 story.

[MaaZeus]

kraidy1117 wrote...

MaaZeus wrote...

I wouldnt mind a DLC where this gets patched as this confuses a lot of people. hint hint Bioware?

How does it confuse people? There is many ways mordin could have got one, not confusing, it's a plot hole but it's not confusing. I think Cerberus just gave him a box of Seeker swarm bugs

"Billy Mays here with a fantastic new product! ...a box of seeker swarms for only 99.95 credits". Makes sense to me. Easy to just buy one.

Modifié par MaaZeus, 22 février 2010 - 03:20 .

[kraidy1117]

DarthCaine wrote...

It doesn't really matter. Cerberus probably found it
There are more important plot holes that need to be explained (like Wilson betrayal and Harbinger's interest in Shepard)
The biggest problem I have with ME2 is that there are so many things left unexplained (plot holes)

Um it might have to do with that SHEPARD killed a ****ing Reaper? If I was in Harbingers shoes, that would make me intrested. Shepards body would have most likely been melted to goo and be used as the main program for the Human reaper (as we find out Reapers have a bunch of programs and one main one)

Wilsons betrayel is very minor and of course somethings won't be answered. They have to have some wuestions to be answered in ME3....

[klossen4]

DarthCaine wrote...

It doesn't really matter. Cerberus probably found it
There are more important plot holes that need to be explained (like Wilson betrayal and Harbinger's interest in Shepard)
The biggest problem I have with ME2 is that there are so many things left unexplained (plot holes)

  Harbinger's interest in Shepard not really a plothole that will probably be explained in ME3 oh and shep killed sovreign.

Modifié par klossen4, 22 février 2010 - 03:22 .

[kraidy1117]

MaaZeus wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

MaaZeus wrote...

I wouldnt mind a DLC where this gets patched as this confuses a lot of people. hint hint Bioware?

How does it confuse people? There is many ways mordin could have got one, not confusing, it's a plot hole but it's not confusing. I think Cerberus just gave him a box of Seeker swarm bugs

"Billy Mays here with a fantastic new product! ...a box of seeker swarms for only 99.95 credits". Makes sense to me. Easy to just buy one.

That could be closer to the truth then you think.... anyways Shepard and Jacob tell Mordin they have samples, plus the data from Veetor and the fact that the seeker swarms are robotic. Mordin most likely made it since he is one of the most smartest person in the galaxey.