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[Supocan]

wyarbrough wrote...

Darn no helmet fix, oh well. Next.

[sirandar]

The honeymoon is over ...... Played it loved it .... If ME2 is anything like ME1, ME2 is pretty much in it's final form and patches and DLC aren't going to add much IMO. The current patch isn't worth installing for me.



ME1 didn't really have any DLC worth keeping it on your hard drive and the final patch was a joke.



I would prefer them working on ME3 anyway.

[BradfordChild]

ME2 is one of the worst pieces of game software I've experienced. There are repeated crashes. There is tons of memory, it's a pretty fast dual core, and I shut down all other software including anti-malware to make sure that there's plenty of memory. As long as one can make reasonably frequent saves, it's just a nuisance. In parts of the game where you have to get through a long sequence without saving, it's annoying.



I'll try the patch, but it seems to me that if software requires a patch this early, it wasn't properly tested.

[BradfordChild]

They say that sequels never live up to the original, and this is true for ME2.  Without getting into details that might constitute spoilers, it seems as if its release was rushed. A number of the enemies in ME1 had characterological depth (the Rachni queen, for example, or Saren).   Characters in ME2 are, with a couple of exceptions, close to two-dimensional. 

All in all, a noticeably lesser game than ME1. 

Modifié par BradfordChild, 24 février 2010 - 05:30 .

[AngryFrozenWater]

QualityJeverage wrote...

Please, people, take some time to understand what a patch actually is and what it can do. It's not magic. The developers can't just wave a wand at the game and fix any issue or complaint the players have.

Take the helmet issue for example. It's very likely that the DLC armor sets are not modular, they are single pieces. Individual parts can't be interchanged. In order to "fix" the helmet problem, Bioware would likely have to manually modify every suit so that the helmet could be removed. They would then need to push the updated content to each user, along with a patch or change that would enable them to toggle the helmet, either at the player's command, or during conversation, or what have you.

Whatever they might decide, such a change/fix would require a large amount of work, if it could be changed at all. It's very possible that such a change is impossible or unreasonably difficult to implement, depending on the way the game was designed.

Remember the issue with Mass Effect 1, where Garrus' face was extremely low-resolution regardless of graphical settings? The developers commented that because of the way the game had been structured under the hood, a patch to fix that issue would require a huge amount of work and would likely be several gigabytes in size.

So please people, I know you're frustrated, I am too, but don't delude yourselves into thinking that adding a helmet toggle would be at all "trivial" for Bioware to do. Just because a feature is small when compared to the larger game, does not mean that it's easy (Or even possible) to implement.

What an awful post. Patches can do whatever you want them to do. Creating software is magic. I know. I am a coder.

Modifié par AngryFrozenWater, 24 février 2010 - 05:27 .

[Starchs]

charmingcharlie wrote...

Holyonedc wrote...

PC patch wheres a fix for all the 360 problems?

You will probably find there is a patch in the works for the 360 version.  The reason why the PC version gets the patch first is because they don't have to go through the lengthy certification process that MS insists on with the xbox 360.

Are the patchs for 360 in marketplace? If not, where do I download them?

[Embrosil]

BradfordChild wrote...

ME2 is one of the worst pieces of game software I've experienced. There are repeated crashes. There is tons of memory, it's a pretty fast dual core, and I shut down all other software including anti-malware to make sure that there's plenty of memory. As long as one can make reasonably frequent saves, it's just a nuisance. In parts of the game where you have to get through a long sequence without saving, it's annoying.

I'll try the patch, but it seems to me that if software requires a patch this early, it wasn't properly tested.

I do not know what are you talking about. The game runs smoothly, no crashes, no slowdowns. You really should put your PC together before blaming others for yor problems.

I am just disappointed that the floating characters bug has not been fixed. And yes, by those idiotic armor helmets :-) But on the other side I know I do not have to bother with the DLC...

Modifié par Embrosil, 24 février 2010 - 08:18 .

[Hulluliini]

Yeah I'm playing ME2 on a LAPTOP with full settings and I never had any bugs that really affected the gameplay. Only those blank screens between loading, but that's no big deal at all. Never got stuck, never floated, never hardly anything!

"Added useful messaging during the ME1 save game import."


What's this useful messaging? I didn't notice anything new.

Modifié par Hulluliini, 24 février 2010 - 08:55 .

[Hulluliini]

Sorry 

Modifié par Hulluliini, 24 février 2010 - 08:57 .

[Fredvdp]

BradfordChild wrote...

ME2 is one of the worst pieces of game software I've experienced. There are repeated crashes. There is tons of memory, it's a pretty fast dual core, and I shut down all other software including anti-malware to make sure that there's plenty of memory. As long as one can make reasonably frequent saves, it's just a nuisance. In parts of the game where you have to get through a long sequence without saving, it's annoying.

I'll try the patch, but it seems to me that if software requires a patch this early, it wasn't properly tested.

I've only experienced some minor graphical glitches. Are you sure your hardware meets the minimum requirements? Plenty of memory and a good dual core is worthless if your video hardware is dated.

[floorhugger]

Not sure if anyone else, PC or 360 users, had this problem in game, but the only issue I've had thus far playing ME2 is the loss of sound during the Samara/Morinth fight on the loyalty mission. My apologies if this has been mentioned before, but I couldn't find the original thread that discussed this issue that I read a while back before I had encountered the problem.

[wolfsite]

Frankly I have only experienced the floating character bug once and that was on my fourth play through, I haven't noticed any problems the rest of the time (game is actually way more stable then ME1 on my PC). I'm on my fifth run now so you can tell I'm really enjoying the game.

[uzivatel]

Starchs wrote...

Are the patchs for 360 in marketplace? If not, where do I download them?

You will know what to do once a patch is released.

Anyway, many of those things seem to be PC centric. Not saying the 360 version does not have its own share of problems, but reading list of the fixes, I understand why PC patch is released first. That said I hope it does not end like ME1 360 - that game was never really patched.

Modifié par uzivatel, 24 février 2010 - 06:55 .

[Mavkiel]

uzivatel wrote...

Starchs wrote...

Are the patchs for 360 in marketplace? If not, where do I download them?

You will know what to do once a patch is released.

Anyway, many of those things seem to be PC centric. Not saying the 360 version does not have its own share of problems, but reading list of the fixes, I understand why PC patch is released first. That said I hope it does not end like ME1 360 - that game was never really patched.

My guess is that the pc users are easier to deal with. They create a patch and release it. No dealing with middlemen to get their patch up. So hammering (get it? Hammerhead?) out all the problems on the pc first then dealing with the consoles is ideal. 

My assumption is that the consoles will get a patch when the next dlc becomes available. That way they only have to deal with the console patch update people once, opposed to twice.

[Petsura]

BradfordChild wrote...

ME2 is one of the worst pieces of game software I've experienced. There are repeated crashes. There is tons of memory, it's a pretty fast dual core, and I shut down all other software including anti-malware to make sure that there's plenty of memory. As long as one can make reasonably frequent saves, it's just a nuisance. In parts of the game where you have to get through a long sequence without saving, it's annoying.

I'll try the patch, but it seems to me that if software requires a patch this early, it wasn't properly tested.

Don't blame Bioware if your PC can't handle the game.
And which game was ever perfect and didn't require a patch for the final touch?

ME2 runs even smoother than ME1 did on my PC and I bet I'm not the only one pleasantly surprised by this optimization.

Your rant is silly.

[Bioger]

Hardly a rant, in fact forums are set up so ppl can post issues they are having with any given game. Just because you do not experience issues does not apply to all. Thankfully I am not experiencing issues either but I have done in other pc games. BradfordChild... might be an idea to list your system specs, for instance what kind of video card do you have and what kind of temps does it get up to. Frequent crashes like the ones you are having can be caused by any amount of things, hard to narrow down without more info. I do not find ME2 to be all that resource hungry so any decent system should be able to run the game, especially at low settings.

[RighteousRage]

Petsura wrote...

BradfordChild wrote...

ME2 is one of the worst pieces of game software I've experienced. There are repeated crashes. There is tons of memory, it's a pretty fast dual core, and I shut down all other software including anti-malware to make sure that there's plenty of memory. As long as one can make reasonably frequent saves, it's just a nuisance. In parts of the game where you have to get through a long sequence without saving, it's annoying.

I'll try the patch, but it seems to me that if software requires a patch this early, it wasn't properly tested.

Don't blame Bioware if your PC can't handle the game.
And which game was ever perfect and didn't require a patch for the final touch?

ME2 runs even smoother than ME1 did on my PC and I bet I'm not the only one pleasantly surprised by this optimization.

Your rant is silly.

Indeed, ME 2 also runs more smoothly on my computer (and I didn't have to do black magic to get the sound/video working properly this time) at the same settings.

[Varenus Luckmann]

BradfordChild wrote...
ME2 is one of the worst pieces of game software I've experienced. There are repeated crashes. There is tons of
memory, it's a pretty fast dual core, and I shut down all other software including anti-malware to make sure that there's plenty of memory. As long as one can make reasonably frequent saves, it's just a nuisance. In parts of the game where you have to get through a long sequence without saving, it's annoying.

I'll try the patch, but it seems to me that if software requires a patch this early, it wasn't properly tested.

I've actually had worse problems with a game when it comes to
random crashes, freezes and generally bad behaviour.

Mass Effect 1.

Petsura wrote...
Don't blame Bioware if your PC can't handle the game.
And which game was ever perfect and didn't require a patch for the final touch?

ME2 runs even smoother than ME1 did on my PC and I bet I'm not the only one pleasantly surprised by this optimization.

Your rant is silly.

There's nothing silly about it and when you have problems with software, it's not always a matter of "your PC can't handle the game". I'm running into frequent crashes for no apparent reason, freezes and runtime errors.

My game falls well within the recommended parameters and most other games run just fine. But both ME1 and ME2 are crashalicious.

Modifié par Varenus Luckmann, 25 février 2010 - 03:10 .

[Daveastation]

Starchs wrote...

charmingcharlie wrote...

Holyonedc wrote...

PC patch wheres a fix for all the 360 problems?

You will probably find there is a patch in the works for the 360 version.  The reason why the PC version gets the patch first is because they don't have to go through the lengthy certification process that MS insists on with the xbox 360.

Are the patchs for 360 in marketplace? If not, where do I download them?

Xbox 360 patches are automatic.  Kind of.  If you sign into Xbox Live and then boot up the game, you will get a message that informs you of an update, you will select "OK" and the update is downloaded.  This is how all Xbox 360 games are patched.  Currently there is no patch for the Xbox 360 version of Mass Effect 2.

[PhoenixBlue]

Leonick91 wrote...

"Fixed an issue where pressing F9 after the
mission completion screen reset Shepard to Level 1."

I wonder what kind of programming error can possibly give that effect

I'll bet money that was a debugging tool that someone forgot to pull out of the final product.