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Do all Companion Mages have to have that same ratty hairstyle?


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Suilebhain

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Looks like they yanked it up and stuck a hairpin in it instead of washing it. Morrigan, now Velanna? :blink:

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well that makes half the mages, to be fair.

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Don't get me started.

After the complete disappointment of RTO, their cheap recycling of Morri's hair had me this close to canceling my pre-order.


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melkathi wrote...

Don't get me started.
After the complete disappointment of RTO, their cheap recycling of Morri's hair had me this close to canceling my pre-order.


Plus, they had the audacity to turn Morrigan's hair color from dark, strangely exotic and enticing to blonde. Blonde!
Unacceptable. 

Poor Velanna. There is just no way I am going to like her.  

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melkathi wrote...
their cheap recycling of Morri's hair had me this close to canceling my pre-order.


:huh:

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Cheap recycling of Morrigan's hair? Like the recycling of the same body models?



Anyway, why not? It's not like a person who lives in the wilderness goes to hair salons, and I doubt she lets her tree friends braid her hair.

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DaerogTheDhampir wrote...

Cheap recycling of Morrigan's hair? Like the recycling of the same body models?

Anyway, why not? It's not like a person who lives in the wilderness goes to hair salons, and I doubt she lets her tree friends braid her hair.

Yep, thats Oghren's job.Posted Image

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DaerogTheDhampir wrote...

Cheap recycling of Morrigan's hair? Like the recycling of the same body models?

Anyway, why not? It's not like a person who lives in the wilderness goes to hair salons, and I doubt she lets her tree friends braid her hair.


They had Morrigan as the poster girl of the franchise. Including unique hairstyle.
Put simply: while marketing DAO it was "This is Dragon Age: Origins. This is Morrigan. You will love the game. You will love this woman."

They had made Morrigan more than a companion. She was the face of the game. They decided they don't need that anymore. Their call of course. But it does diminish what the character was.

And yes. If among 3 female mage companions, two have the same hairstyle, that is cheap.

I wont comment on your body models... you know yourself how ridiculous that is, otherwise you wouldn't have posted it.

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melkathi wrote...

Don't get me started.
After the complete disappointment of RTO, their cheap recycling of Morri's hair had me this close to canceling my pre-order.


Are...are you serious?

You don't want to play the game because of the hairstyle of one of the companions?

Holy diva, Batman.

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KnightofPhoenix wrote...

melkathi wrote...

Don't get me started.
After the complete disappointment of RTO, their cheap recycling of Morri's hair had me this close to canceling my pre-order.


Plus, they had the audacity to turn Morrigan's hair color from dark, strangely exotic and enticing to blonde. Blonde!
Unacceptable. 

Poor Velanna. There is just no way I am going to like her.  


I feel the same way ,No way im going to like Velanna. <_<
I hope they change Morrigan's hairstyle in DAO 2 So she can be unique again.

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Actually, using the same body model is not ridiculous, it works if you want to add a lot of different armors to fit everybody.

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Cuthlan wrote...

melkathi wrote...

Don't get me started.
After the complete disappointment of RTO, their cheap recycling of Morri's hair had me this close to canceling my pre-order.


Are...are you serious?

You don't want to play the game because of the hairstyle of one of the companions?

Holy diva, Batman.


No, I am saying that, while DAO was a great game, the content that has been produced since then has been steadily decreasing in quality. And that until the Sigrun trailer, there had been no indications that Awakening would not be a similar disappointment to Warden's Keep (interesting story, but pointless considering that you are locked out of the Keep you just claimed) and Return to Ostagar.
But you can simply read half sentences and then comment. You do have that liberty.

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DaerogTheDhampir wrote...

Actually, using the same body model is not ridiculous, it works if you want to add a lot of different armors to fit everybody.


Exactly.
That's why I say likening body models to everything else cannot be ment seriously.
Hair, textures, whatever - They are used to visually set the characters appart.
Bodies are all the same to allow us more freedom using these characters.
Two different things.

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I can't believe you guys care so much about hairstyles! It's just...hair.

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It would be cool if you had more control over the hair, like you do with the face.

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errant_knight wrote...

I can't believe you guys care so much about hairstyles! It's just...hair.


It's a pin too!

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melkathi wrote...

They had Morrigan as the poster girl of the franchise. Including unique hairstyle.
Put simply: while marketing DAO it was "This is Dragon Age: Origins. This is Morrigan. You will love the game. You will love this woman."

They had made Morrigan more than a companion. She was the face of the game. They decided they don't need that anymore. Their call of course. But it does diminish what the character was.

And yes. If among 3 female mage companions, two have the same hairstyle, that is cheap.

E-x-a-c-t-l-y

I've been saying this ever since I first watched the Velanna trailer. I wish I could dig up my previous posts so I don't have to repeat them. Quite a few other posters have made some good points as well.

It's not just "hair". It's Morrigan's hair. They recycled what was supposed to be unique and exclusive to the characther that symbolizes the entire Dragon Age franchise. They could've just created some new hairstyle instead, but no... they were lazy.

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errant_knight wrote...

I can't believe you guys care so much about hairstyles! It's just...hair.


Hair is not just hair. Hair forms an integral part in the first impression we develop vis a vis a person. Posted Image

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melkathi wrote...

No, I am saying that, while DAO was a great game, the content that has been produced since then has been steadily decreasing in quality.

So... there was DAO... then there was RTO. RTO, being a one hour long DLC, was obviously 'worse' than the main game, which was a 50 hour long epic. These are the only two 'contents' to even come out of Bioware in this strand so far... This somehow shows a pattern of quality loss?
Is Morrigan's hair sacred? All the companions have had their hair reused with the exception of Oghren, and that's probably because he is returning for Awakening.

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errant_knight wrote...

I can't believe you guys care so much about hairstyles! It's just...hair.


I know, who can possibly care about hair, when the fiends left out piercings and nail polish!?

In the name of all that's holy I demand an overpriced beauty salon DLC post-haste, so I can have properly skanked up bitc..uhm companionsPosted Image

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errant_knight wrote...

I can't believe you guys care so much about hairstyles! It's just...hair.


It's not hair.
It's the art team doing their job. Or not doing it. If they had Velanna with Wynne's face but completly unique hair, I'd still be disappointed. It is their job to visually set appart from eachother the various characters.
The companions are a very small sub-group of characters, therefor recycling between them is not the same as recycling in the larger group of npcs. It is not a matter of 2 out of 200 npcs sharing a visual trait. It's 2 out of 3 female mage companions.
To avoid that, is not too much to ask of professionals.



Meh, I'm done. It's obvious people not only aren't going to attempt to understand the point I try to make, people can't even be bothered to read the whole post before replying.

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Drasanil wrote...

errant_knight wrote...

I can't believe you guys care so much about hairstyles! It's just...hair.


I know, who can possibly care about hair, when the fiends left out piercings and nail polish!?

In the name of all that's holy I demand an overpriced beauty salon DLC post-haste, so I can have properly skanked up bitc..uhm companionsPosted Image


Why not, you can already re-spect your character.

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melkathi wrote...

errant_knight wrote...

I can't believe you guys care so much about hairstyles! It's just...hair.


It's not hair.
It's the art team doing their job. Or not doing it. If they had Velanna with Wynne's face but completly unique hair, I'd still be disappointed. It is their job to visually set appart from eachother the various characters.
The companions are a very small sub-group of characters, therefor recycling between them is not the same as recycling in the larger group of npcs. It is not a matter of 2 out of 200 npcs sharing a visual trait. It's 2 out of 3 female mage companions.
To avoid that, is not too much to ask of professionals.



Meh, I'm done. It's obvious people not only aren't going to attempt to understand the point I try to make, people can't even be bothered to read the whole post before replying.


What difference does it make, though? There are a multitude of characters with Alistair's hairstyle, and it doesn't affect his characterization at all! I get what you're saying about there being a difference between NPC's and companions, but I still maintain that it doesn't matter. Morrigan is unique because of her personality. She doesn't need other markers. Suppose it was a culture where they were all bald. We'd still know exactly who Morrigan is. There are only so many employees, and I'd much rather that they worked on plot-related items/locations than hair, etc. For everything that gets designed, something else doesn't.

Modifié par errant_knight, 22 février 2010 - 11:00 .


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lol Work with the plot, that's a good one.

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errant_knight wrote...

melkathi wrote...

errant_knight wrote...

I can't believe you guys care so much about hairstyles! It's just...hair.


It's not hair.
It's the art team doing their job. Or not doing it. If they had Velanna with Wynne's face but completly unique hair, I'd still be disappointed. It is their job to visually set appart from eachother the various characters.
The companions are a very small sub-group of characters, therefor recycling between them is not the same as recycling in the larger group of npcs. It is not a matter of 2 out of 200 npcs sharing a visual trait. It's 2 out of 3 female mage companions.
To avoid that, is not too much to ask of professionals.



Meh, I'm done. It's obvious people not only aren't going to attempt to understand the point I try to make, people can't even be bothered to read the whole post before replying.


What difference does it make, though? There are a multitude of characters with Alistair's hairstyles, and it doesn't affect his characterization at all! There are only so many employees, and I'd much rather that they worked on plot-related items/locations than hair, etc. For everything that gets designed, something else doesn't.


Errant, do read what I type. I don't care if a random npc has the same hair as Alistair. If Anders did though, I would care. Because then it would not be random NPC #23, but 2 out of 2 human male companions with an irreverant sense of humour.