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[ODST Steve]

Which Shotgun is better Krogan Claymore or Eviscerator Shotgun? After seeing the odd stats I became confused.

[Kronner]

Claymore is much better if you are able to use the reload trick on regular basis. If not then it comes down to personal preference.

Modifié par Kronner, 22 février 2010 - 09:22 .

[ODST Steve]

But if they do same damage I might as well pick Assault Rifles.

[Relix28]

How does the reload trick work?

Modifié par Relix28, 22 février 2010 - 09:26 .

[blank1]

DLC Shotgun isn't a far cry away from the Claymore, so you can grab Sniper Rifles or something. If you have SMG's, there's no real reason to go for AR's.

[Looy]

Claymore is better for Vanguards doing the whole "charge, charge, charge, charge, charge" thing, as one-shotting is very important. If you want to be more versatile, go with the eviscerater.

[ODST Steve]

Do they have the same damage?

[Calibretto9]

What is the Claymore reloading trick?

[thisisme8]

Several videos of it in the Vanguard tips and tricks page. I've put several of them in the OP. Literally everything you want to know about shotguns is in that thread somewhere.

[implodinggoat]

I feel the same about the Claymore as I do about the Revenant. Its arguably better than a gun you can get without having to sacrifice the ability to attain another (the Eviscerator and Vindicator respectively); while the alternatives will give you a much more pronounced bonus.



If you're a Vanguard, Adept, Sentinel, or Engineer, I'd take access to assault rifles and with it my favorite gun the Vindicator Battle Rifle which is accurate enough to do double duty as a Sniper Rifle.



If you're a Soldier or an Infiltrator, I'd take the Widow because that thing is a total beast compared to the other sniper rifles.

[implodinggoat]

Sorry for the double post.  I got some wierd error message saying the topic didn't exist and thought my post didn't go through.

Modifié par implodinggoat, 22 février 2010 - 09:39 .

[Relix28]

thisisme8 wrote...

Several videos of it in the Vanguard tips and tricks page. I've put several of them in the OP. Literally everything you want to know about shotguns is in that thread somewhere.

Found it. Gonna try it out right now. Thnx

Modifié par Relix28, 22 février 2010 - 11:47 .

[sinosleep]

I prefer the scimitar myself. I think the power of a scimitar with inferno ammo is highly underrated. What you lose in kill time is easily made up for in CC. Charge 2 guys, shoot one, sets them both on fire meaning they can't shoot you, finish the one off then switch to the other and call it a day. Also allows you to get the sniper rifle, which shores up the one weakness vanguards have (ranged combat) and is obscenely good against YMIR mechs and basically anything with a lot of armor since you can rapid fire 12 shot clips like nobody's business.

In regards to ARs I feel they are kind of redundant. Shotguns do fine against shields and barriers by default, inferno ammo shores up their armor piercing (unless you use evi which has it's own AP boost) and they are also beasts in melee range so the AR is no real benefit there. And IMO the sniper rifle has ARs beat at range so I don't see much use for them in a vanguard build. I mean sure, you could use it to do what you would have done with your shotgun any way, but why?

Modifié par sinosleep, 23 février 2010 - 12:11 .

[padaE]

I prefer the Eviscerator, it kills a lot of enemys with just one shot and is much more versatile

[Jestert]

depends on what difficulty you are playing. I think at insanity difficulty, claymore is the only shotgun that can gurantee a one shot kill at point blank range.

[Schroing]

Eviscerator for shep; opt for something else at the collector ship. I'd still suggest giving Grunt the Claymore, though I suppose I'm not much a number-cruncher.

[padaE]

Jestert wrote...

depends on what difficulty you are playing. I think at insanity difficulty, claymore is the only shotgun that can gurantee a one shot kill at point blank range.

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I thought that too, but as I said, the Eviscerator kill most of the minor enemys with one shot, like collector drones, basic soldiers, etc... even when it don't kill, one simple meele with do the job.

[DarthCaine]

I didn't like the Eviscerator 'cos it's so slow

[Schneidend]

Depends on your class and difficulty. Claymore's a guaranteed one-hit kill after a Heavy Charge on mooks like Blue Suns Troopers and Collector Drones. Eviscerator gives you a little more room for error since it's more accurate and has a 3-round magazine, but it can only guarantee one-hit kills with headshots and ammo powers.



For Soldiers, Claymore kind of shoehorns you into a particular play style. A fun, challenging play style, but it's not for everybody. You basically want to use your storm speed (preferably with armor that increases your storm speed) and Hardened Adrenaline Rush to advance on the enemy and get into melee range for double damage, or at least close range for +25%.



The Vanguard is better at this style, since Charge is fairly instantaneous, but the Soldier has the added utility of the other weapon types. The Soldier can also disengage from a close-range encounter more easily, as once a Vanguard charges they are committed. But, again, this is what the Vanguard was designed to do: high-risk, high-reward gameplay.



Personally, I'd say Vanguards should always grab the Claymore, as it really suits the "charge, charge, and charge again" style the class was meant for. Soldiers, on the other hand, should only grab the Claymore if the player is confident in their ability to reliably get in close, otherwise go Revenant. If you've managed to sneak in reliably close with the Eviscerator up until that point as a Soldier, you'll want to try the Claymore.

[blank1]

^



Adrenaline Rush actually lets you sprint *really* fast, since for some reason your movement speed isn't slowed down relative to the time dilation, unlike the cyclic rate of weapons, for example. I used this quite a bit to get in close with the Eviscerator (I got tired of wtfpwning everything with suppressive Revenant fire, which is stupidly easy even on Insanity), and the amount of 1 shot kills I got from the +100% damage off of Adrenaline Rush was pretty retarded. I was quickly disappointed at how this was easy too.



This is why I rolled an Adept lol.

[Schneidend]

Oh, definitely. Storming while in Adrenaline is pretty insane. I was only suggesting that it isn't quite as potent as Charge's invulnerability while you travel. You could get hit by Harbinger's singularity or the Colossus' cannon while storming, but Charging would completely dodge these attacks.

[JJDrakken]

masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Weaponry_Comparison

There you go


JJ

[Sabresandiego]

I like the scimitar the best. Its just more fun to use.

[_Dannok1234]

I too prefer the Scimitar for it's versatility and safety, with it I don't have to worry if I miss a shot or focus on getting the reload trick right every time I charge a group. The Claymore is *only* superior if you can do the reload trick, and it's not by all that much really. In the end it does not matter if you use the Claymore, Evi or Scimitar it's all down to what you prefer to use. They will all do the job just brilliantly. You end up taking possibly less enemy fire when using the Scim because of it's fast refire rate and near "stunlock" ability using inferno ammo on organics.

With the Scimitar and the Eviscerator you can melee inbetween shots. Scimitar shot cycle goes shot, melee, shot etc. Evi goes shot melee melee shot. If your not doing the reload trick on the Claymore it will actually kill multiple enemies slower then either of those two, it's only if you do the trick that it's slightly faster. (Thinking of insanity here btw)

Edit: That weapon comparison on the Wiki fails to take a great many things into account and only shows you a theoretical dps over 1min firing and reloading continusly. Thats not how things work in the game and is pretty much useless for deciding which shotgun to use.

Modifié par Dannok1234, 23 février 2010 - 06:41 .