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[Dark Slayer1458]

Im about to pick it up on Tali's mission. How does it fare against the Avenger AR? Because ill probably put it on a squadmate.

Like Legion, how cool would that be

[amrose2]

It's anti-shield mostly. Aside from using it because it sounds and looks cool, I'd only use it when you know you will need something to burn a shield quickly (Geth missions)

[Dark Slayer1458]

amrose2 wrote...

It's anti-shield mostly. Aside from using it because it sounds and looks cool, I'd only use it when you know you will need something to burn a shield quickly (Geth missions)

Would you put it on a squadmate vs the Avenger AR?

[rabbitchannel]

http://masseffect.wi...onry_Comparison



That can't be right though... compared to the others it looks like the Geth Pulse Rifle is incredibly weak. :\\

[Dark Slayer1458]

rab****annel wrote...

http://masseffect.wi...onry_Comparison

That can't be right though... compared to the others it looks like the Geth Pulse Rifle is incredibly weak. :\\\\\\\\

Those kind of charts are never accurate, there is too many variables

Modifié par Dark Slayer1458, 22 février 2010 - 10:55 .

[rabbitchannel]

Dark Slayer1458 wrote...

rab****annel wrote...

http://masseffect.wi...onry_Comparison

That can't be right though... compared to the others it looks like the Geth Pulse Rifle is incredibly weak. :\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\

Those kind of charts are never accurate, there is too many variables

Perhaps not accurate to the decimal point, but in general, they provide some perspective. Variables such as accuracy and a player's skill level are usually relative. By that, I mean you can say the pistol is more accurate the shotgun but you wouldn't be using a shotgun at a pistol's range. You would close in to the shotgun's most effective range. 

Anyway, I find it quite odd that you question the mathematical validity of those charts and place more importance on the opinion of the first random stranger to answer your thread. I would personally believe in the chart or personal testing in game. 

[Atmosfear3]

For anything other than shields, Geth Rifle is the weakest of all the ARs, before or after ammos are applied.

Modifié par Atmosfear3, 22 février 2010 - 11:03 .

[Dark Slayer1458]

rab****annel wrote...

Dark Slayer1458 wrote...

rab****annel wrote...

http://masseffect.wi...onry_Comparison

That can't be right though... compared to the others it looks like the Geth Pulse Rifle is incredibly weak. :\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\

Those kind of charts are never accurate, there is too many variables

Perhaps not accurate to the decimal point, but in general, they provide some perspective. Variables such as accuracy and a player's skill level are usually relative. By that, I mean you can say the pistol is more accurate the shotgun but you wouldn't be using a shotgun at a pistol's range. You would close in to the shotgun's most effective range. 

Anyway, I find it quite odd that you question the mathematical validity of those charts and place more importance on the opinion of the first random stranger to answer your thread. I would personally believe in the chart or personal testing in game. 

Im not questioning anything lol

[JaegerBane]

rab****annel wrote...

http://masseffect.wi...onry_Comparison

That can't be right though... compared to the others it looks like the Geth Pulse Rifle is incredibly weak. :\\\\\\\\

It's to do with the gun's rate of fire. It's variable. I hear it's actually supposed to do the same kind of damage per shot as the Avenger, overall.

It's not really one of my faves. It's an assault rifle that wants to be a submachine gun... only the Tempest is a better short range weapon and all the other ARs wipe the floor with it (including the Avenger).

Modifié par JaegerBane, 22 février 2010 - 11:06 .

[Jestert]

it's pretty good at stripping shields and barriers, but not so good against armor.

[rabbitchannel]

Dark Slayer1458 wrote...

rab****annel wrote...

Dark Slayer1458 wrote...

rab****annel wrote...

http://masseffect.wi...onry_Comparison

That can't be right though... compared to the others it looks like the Geth Pulse Rifle is incredibly weak. :\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\

Those kind of charts are never accurate, there is too many variables

Perhaps not accurate to the decimal point, but in general, they provide some perspective. Variables such as accuracy and a player's skill level are usually relative. By that, I mean you can say the pistol is more accurate the shotgun but you wouldn't be using a shotgun at a pistol's range. You would close in to the shotgun's most effective range. 

Anyway, I find it quite odd that you question the mathematical validity of those charts and place more importance on the opinion of the first random stranger to answer your thread. I would personally believe in the chart or personal testing in game. 

Im not questioning anything lol

"Those kind of charts are never accurate, there is too many variables"

[RiverRat]

Err. Not really. However, it does look cool when you give it to Legion. :3

[brokit808]

the collector AR is much better then the Geth AR

[Invalidcode]

Anti shield & Barrier only, other than that GPR damage is horrible. I only let Legion carriers it for RP, it uses the Widow anyways.

[Grand_Commander13]

When I have time I'm going to field test the Geth Pulse Rifle. There is absolutely no way it would be in the game if it were as weak as those stats indicate it is, so the only question is how it actually rates.

[Schneidend]

The equation the wiki uses clearly doesn't work for the geth pulse rifle. I'm terrible at math, so I couldn't say where the equation fails exactly, but the GPR's in-game performance doesn't reflect such low numbers. It's easily on par with the Avenger in damage, if not superior.

[Roxlimn]

Testing it vs. Vindicator on Barriers at short range yields comparable results. Vindicator is better if you're a good shot, since the burst damage is large, particularly if you can ensure that all shots are headshots. If you miss a fair bit with the Vindicator, the GPR is better for Shields and Barriers, since it fires continuously - the damage vs. Barriers is good enough that if you're a bad shot, GPR may outperform Vindicator for you.

[matt654321]

I agree - according to the wiki, the GPR kills roughly half as fast as the Avenger. From me using it for as long as possible on my Soldier in insanity, then again with my Vanguard, I can say that's 100% not true.

Further, almost everyone in this thread attested to its ability to absolutely destroy shields (and those that didn't attest to it simply didn't comment). However, according to the wiki, the GPR only has a .1 greater multiplier against shields than the avenger. However, the avenger definitely doesn't strip shields nearly as quickly.

There must be something going on with the GPR that we can't see in the .ini file. My money is on it having something to do with the variable rate of fire.


Even if those numbers are right, it having the fastest rate of fire in the game is beneficial for effects that have a %chance to occur. IE - if cryo ammo has a 10% chance to activate per bullet, then shooting more bullets per second gives you a much larger chance to freeze the target more quickly (and as far as we can tell, the chance isn't based on damage). This is also true for disruptor ammo vs. mechs.

Modifié par matt654321, 23 février 2010 - 02:05 .

[UnstableMongoose]

The geth pulse rifle does in fact do a good bit less damage than the Avenger. But it's rate of fire makes up for it. Also, it shreds barriers and shields like paper, especially combined with disruptor or warp ammo, making it a nightmare for geth and collectors.

[ODST Steve]

I think it sucks.

[Haxormelon]

how do you get the geth pulse rifle?

[M3lt1ng]

Haxormelon wrote...

how do you get the geth pulse rifle?

Game difficulty must be hardcore or higher when doing the Tali recruit mission.  It's in one of the rooms on the floor towards the end of the mission IIRC.

[Coughee Brotha]

i perfer the vindictor really

[Arhka]

It could be that the GPR has a variable rate of damage to keep it inline with its variable ROF. 3.1 seems incredibly low, but there has to be a reason why that number is there even though gameplay testimonies say that it roughly = Avenger damage.