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[belligerentsoldier]

I'm looking forward to the new release of Dragon Age: Awakening, but I'm worried whether or not it will override my Dragaon Age: Origins.  I'm curious because I haven't even finished playing Origins.  Will Awakening override Origins when you install it?  Will you no longer be able to go to Denerim, Ostagar, Redcliff, etc....?  Though, I'm axious, I'm concerned.  Any answers to these questions would be greatly appreciated. 

BTW, I read the Q&A and it didn't really address my concerns. 

[Caozen]

Not with the character you start Awakening with. In all matters of speaking, your character in Awakenings is in the future. Going back and forth ruins continuity, and thus, the inability.

[Maria Caliban]

No, it doesn't override Origins. You can continue playing and when you're read to 'move on' import your character.

[supersims796]

No, it definatley will not If that were the case, they'd have wasted time making utterly useless DLC - completley useless everywhere.



But I digress, they will not make it so that you will be unable to play a game you have already purcased. They haven't officialy said that, and I can state what I am saying for fact. Be at ease, my good child.

[Feraele]

belligerentsoldier wrote...

I'm looking forward to the new release of Dragon Age: Awakening, but I'm worried whether or not it will override my Dragaon Age: Origins.  I'm curious because I haven't even finished playing Origins.  Will Awakening override Origins when you install it?  Will you no longer be able to go to Denerim, Ostagar, Redcliff, etc....?  Though, I'm axious, I'm concerned.  Any answers to these questions would be greatly appreciated. 

BTW, I read the Q&A and it didn't really address my concerns. 

Once your character is ready to cross over to Awakening..pretty sure he's not able to return.   Same with the Orlesian Warden..that one can only be played within the boundaries of the expansion, they can't go level up in the old Origins areas...

So I would make sure that I have done everything in the Origins areas re: quests etc before going to Awakening.

[MaxQuartiroli]

Saved games will be not deleted or ovewrited, so I believe you will be able to continue a Dragon Age Origins campaign whenever you want.. Just load on the initial screen Origins Campaign instead of Awakening campaign.



When you play an Awakening campaign you will not be able to come back to Origins campaing from the game because you are in the future, but if I export a character to Awakening to play it, and I have not finished Origins yet I will be always able to load Origins game, load a savegame and continue my Origins campaign with that character.. correct me if I am wrong

[Fycan]

yea, but will Dragon Age Awakening be recognized as a different Program in our computer? or it will replace our Dragon Age Origins Program. You know how you can uninstall Microsoft Word without uninstalling Photoshop? Will we be able to uninstall Dragon Age Origins without uninstalling Dragon Age Awakening and vise versa?
Because obviously if it's a different program, we don't  have to worry about our Saves then.

[MaxQuartiroli]

It's not a different program.. It's an add-on. Awakening doesn't work if you have not Origins installed... Therefore you won't be able to uninstall Origins and to leave Awakening on your PC, even because it would become not-working without main game installed

[e-ver]

Fycan wrote...

yea, but will Dragon Age Awakening be recognized as a different Program in our computer? or it will replace our Dragon Age Origins Program. You know how you can uninstall Microsoft Word without uninstalling Photoshop? Will we be able to uninstall Dragon Age Origins without uninstalling Dragon Age Awakening and vise versa?
Because obviously if it's a different program, we don't  have to worry about our Saves then.

You will most likely not be able to uninstall DA:O  and keep playing DA: Awakening, that's not how an expansion works. You need the core game to play the expansion. But you can of course still play the core game, regardless if the expansion has been installed or not.

For example you have one character, let's say a mage and he's currently doing the Orzammar treaty quest. Then Awakening is released and you decide that you're so excited about the expansion that you don't want to wait until your mage character is done with the original game and so you import him into Awakening. Your mage will them be transported into the future, the game will assume that the Archdemon was killed and you play the expansion. You can however not come back to Orzammar after you have finished Awakening with this mage and continue gathering allies to fight the blight, because as soon as you import your character into Awakening, all this is assumed to have happened in the game. You can't unring the bell, so to speak.

You can however keep your old savegame (with your mage standing in the Diamon Quarter) intact and decide after having played partly or completely through Awakening that you want to go back to where you left your mage. You can then continue to play from this savegame, gather allies, end the blight and you could, if you wished, import that character into Awakening again.

You can also have one (or 276) other character, let's say a warrior, who you play DA:O with, while your mage is off to Amaranthine in Awakening.


Does this clear things up for you?

Modifié par Allerleihrau, 23 février 2010 - 10:30 .

[MaxQuartiroli]

BTW... Where is the problem? If you fear you may not able to play again DA:O for some reason, you just have to copy your save game into an external disk or USB key. After this in a future you will be able to uninstall all, reinstall only DA:O, recover your saved games and play it.. It's so easy

[Fycan]

Allerleihrau wrote...

Fycan wrote...
yea, but will Dragon Age Awakening be recognized as a different Program in our computer? or it will replace our Dragon Age Origins Program. You know how you can uninstall Microsoft Word without uninstalling Photoshop? Will we be able to uninstall Dragon Age Origins without uninstalling Dragon Age Awakening and vise versa?
Because obviously if it's a different program, we don't  have to worry about our Saves then.

You will most likely not be able to uninstall DA:O  and keep playing DA: Awakening, that's not how an expansion works. You need the core game to play the expansion. But you can of course still play the core game, regardless if the expansion has been installed or not.
For example you have one character, let's say a mage and he's currently doing the Orzammar treaty quest. Then Awakening is released and you decide that you're so excited about the expansion that you don't want to wait until your mage character is done with the original game and so you import him into Awakening. Your mage will them be transported into the future, the game will assume that the Archdemon was killed and you play the expansion. You can however not come back to Orzammar after you have finished Awakening with this mage and continue gathering allies to fight the blight, because as soon as you import your character into Awakening, all this is assumed to have happened in the game. You can't unring the bell, so to speak.
You can however keep your old savegame (with your mage standing in the Diamon Quarter) intact and decide after having played partly or completely through Awakening that you want to go back to where you left your mage. You can then continue to play from this savegame, gather allies, end the blight and you could, if you wished, import that character into Awakening again.
You can also have one (or 276) other character, let's say a warrior, who you play DA:O with, while your mage is off to Amaranthine in Awakening.

Does this clear things up for you?

It's clear thankyou. From what I understand, this means it does override Origins.. it overrides the program, not the save files..
That's... not so good...

[e-ver]

Fycan wrote...
It's clear thankyou. From what I understand, this means it does override Origins.. it overrides the program, not the save files..
That's... not so good...

Why would this be a problem? The core game is still there and you can play it as if Awakening did not exist/was not installed.

It is also possible for many game expansions to uninstall them indivudually by the way, meaning that you keep the core game. I can't say if that will be possible for DA: Awakening of course, but it's likely.

[edit]
To clarify what I said: While it may be possible to uninstall DA: Awakening, it's certainly not possible to uninstall DA:O and keep Awakening. The expansion needs the core game.

Modifié par Allerleihrau, 23 février 2010 - 11:25 .

[VaeVictus X]

Fycan wrote...
It's clear thankyou. From what I understand, this means it does override Origins.. it overrides the program, not the save files..
That's... not so good...

Awakening doesn't override Origins.  It expands Origins.  That's what an expansion pack does.

[belligerentsoldier]

Thanks everyone, that pretty much clears up my concerns. So, as I understand it, you can create a character in DA:O and play through the whole game, then (if you choose) you can import your character into DA:A and continue playing him/her through that game. Is this correct?

[Ignus Burns]

Yes.

[Ferret A Baudoin]

That's correct, BelligerentSoldier.

[Andwing]

But can you import your save AND play as a new character whose world looks like the world of your imported character? That's where I'm confused, along with many others apparently.

[RurouniSaiya-jin]

Andwing wrote...

But can you import your save AND play as a new character whose world looks like the world of your imported character? That's where I'm confused, along with many others apparently.

No.

[Nikatjef]

Awakening doesn't override Origins.  It expands Origins.  That's what an expansion pack does.

   Not quite.   You are making the same mistake here that many people do about DA:O.  Dragon Age: Origins (the single player campaign), is basically an expansion on Dragon Age, and when Dragon Age: Awakening comes out, it will be an expansion on Dragon Age, not DA:O.  It will patch and expand the functionality of Dragon Age, and those patches and functionalities will work in DA:O as well as in DA:A, at the same time though DA:A is also a single player campaign, as such it will have other functionality that will not work in DA:O.

   Now, having said all of that, if Bioware follows the pattern of previous games, you will be able to play DA:A without having the DA:O single player campaign installed, but you must still have Dragon Age installed.  And since DA:O is just a small part of the whole DA install, you might as well just keep it installed.

[konfeta]

In other words, it's an expansion pack that actually fails to add anything to the original campaign.



So it's more of a sequel/Dragon Age 1.5 on the same engine.

[Patriciachr34]

konfeta wrote...

In other words, it's an expansion pack that actually fails to add anything to the original campaign.

So it's more of a sequel/Dragon Age 1.5 on the same engine.

As it takes place after the archdemon is killed, then yes it is a sequel.  Any good sequel doesn't add story to it's predecessor.  It builds on it.  To add additional content to the original story could ( and would most likely) ruin the continuity of the storyline.  This is why the content from the expansion is not backwards compatible with Origins.

[Loerwyn]

Patriciachr34 wrote...

konfeta wrote...

In other words, it's an expansion pack that actually fails to add anything to the original campaign.

So it's more of a sequel/Dragon Age 1.5 on the same engine.

As it takes place after the archdemon is killed, then yes it is a sequel.  Any good sequel doesn't add story to it's predecessor.  It builds on it.  To add additional content to the original story could ( and would most likely) ruin the continuity of the storyline.  This is why the content from the expansion is not backwards compatible with Origins.

Not to mention the amount of work that would have to be done to the world. It would either be better resigned to another expansion, or most likely, another game.

[belligerentsoldier]

So, there is another (original) game called Dragon Age? Origins was a expansion? Is it still possible to buy Dragon Age, the original game?

[Kepha]

belligerentsoldier wrote...

So, there is another (original) game called Dragon Age? Origins was a expansion? Is it still possible to buy Dragon Age, the original game?

No there is nothing you can buy that is is just Dragon Age.  I think Nikatjef was using Dragon Age as shorthand for the game engine.  Origns and Awakening are two seperate campaigns that use the same game engine.  You buy the game engine when you buy Dragon Age: Origins, Awakening just adds a new campaign into the existing game engine.

Modifié par Kepha, 23 février 2010 - 07:51 .

[Ryngard]

This thread made my brain hurt. Goodness all...



Ok... you have the ORIGINAL game, Dragon Age: Origins. You can play, enjoy, kill the arch-demon, etc.



There is the expansion, Dragon Age Origins: Awakening. It ACTS like a sequel. It occurs (storywise) AFTER the events of Dragon Age Origins. You can continue your Dragon Age: Origins character (though once you transfer him/her to Awakening, then you can't go back and do stuff from Origins WITH THAT CHARACTER. Though you CAN start over and play a new character through Origins).



Does that help???