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[Sascha23]

jesuno wrote...

Nothing announced yet, only hope
http://scrawlfx.com/...cts-says-muzyka

It's good to know that they are fond of both systems. I definitely enjoy my 360. Just not playing it nearly as much as my PS3 nowadays. Mass Effect 2 was a fantastic experience though. Would be interesting to see if they decide to release the trilogy for PS3 when the third title makes its way out.

Anyway, don't mean to derail. Back to topic: Eager to update and expansion.

Modifié par Sascha23, 24 février 2010 - 07:13 .

[Haexpane]

ziggurcat wrote...

JudgeOverdose wrote...

Here's what you don't understand:

No matter  how much you complain, it won't come out any faster.

this content could have (and should have) been released several weeks ago.  now that it has "officially" passed certification (which, in my opinion likely happened back in january shortly after it passed MS's process), this content should be out this thursday, but they continue to delay it for another 3 weeks (pretty dickish, imo). 

so unless the real delay is because it actually failed its first submission process (or it failed multiple times), there's no excuse for the discrepancy.

and again, i doubt there would be very many understanding xbox owners if these delays were on their platform.    
 

The internet is full of haters and complainers, what XBOX users may have complained about is irrelevant.

If there is "no excuse" for DLC coming later than originally planned, perhaps you should return the 300 other video games that came out late?

Return Half life 2, Super Mario, Zelda LLTP, Zelda WW, etc...

Software development is always more difficult than anyone can plan for.   Patches, bugs, delays, validation it's all part of the software development and release cycle.

[Haexpane]

The-Heroic wrote...

thanks for the patch, I hope it fixes some bugs and the framerate.

No framerate patch, PS3 is what it is.   Check out lensoftruth.   PS3 version actually does well compared to the XBOX version.

The sad fact is both XBOX3 and PS3 were promised as HD machines,they are BARELY able to handle 720p native, look at big games like COD4 at600p and Halo 3 at like 640p

Blame sony and MS for over hyping and under RAMing

Remember the days of dual output HDMI  1080p 60fps 'future proof" PS3?   WHERE IS MY BOOMERANG CONTROLLER??????

Remember XBOX360 will be backwards compatible with "most of the popular titles XBOX 1 games"   LIES  Try popular titles like Tomb Raider Legend, Hitman Blood Money, Dead or Alive XBV etc... like 20% of my XBOX1 game library works on my 360

Thankfully at least Morrowind GOTY Jade Empire and KOTOR 1 and 2 work   But I have so many other cool XBOX1 games collecting dust (my XBOX1 hd output is defective, MS stopped making HD cables YEARs ago)

Anyhoot, if you want a better framerate, the only choice is uber PC rig

[Haexpane]

Oh and day 1 buy for me on DLC



Yeah, I was bummed as all hell it was late, but no worries it gave me time to play Jade Empire and Morrowind again. Finished Tribunal last night, damn that expansion was sweet, so much better than the main game.



Bloodmoon is good too, but Tribunal was nice and balanced, tough tough quests, with UBER rewards shiny happy unique loots, cool bosses like Lichs and Gods. That was what I call high end content.

2 full suits of high end armor constant effect, blessings. TRIBUNAL PWNZ! The only thing inOblivion that came close was Knights of the 9 and Shiv isles, although I really didnt like the Madgod armor in Shiv. Lots of Dark Seducers was cool tho

[Wournos]

Well... after hearing all the comments from PC and 360 users *weeks* ago it's not really on my interest list. I find it to be a massive failure to not release games/dlc's on all planned platforms at the same time no matter what the reason for the delay is. I'd probably buy it if it was released along with PC and 360. But not now. Sure, the achievement in it irks me, but not to the point where I have to buy the dlc.

Maybe if the price is fair.

[Sascha23]

Haexpane wrote...

No framerate patch, PS3 is what it is. 

Do you have any information of what the patch/update will contain? It sounds like a fairly certain response to make. Now, unless you are somehow involved with this deployment, I would say that you're completely making assumptions there. Be that it may, I am fine with the framerate, but would not complain if it was smoothed out further.

Modifié par Sascha23, 24 février 2010 - 08:13 .

[cmessaz]

I don't think it's so bad on the PS3. I am interested in what this patch will contain, however. It will determine whether I buy Awakening on the PS3 or PC. If they haven't fixed the stupid bugs then unfortunately I'm going with the PC even though I'd much rather play on my playstation.

[Fangirl17]

I REALLY hope they fix the glitch at the end of the game where Alistair keeps thinking he's king when he's not. Its a very dissapointing and imersion breaking glitch that I think should be on the top of the list of glitches to fix.

So I decided to just watch RTO on youtube and the story was meh and for some reason I didnt like the banter between Alistair and Wynne. Although the items in RTO would have been useful if RTO was released when it was originally suppose to. But since its now to be released so close to Awakening its not worth it in my opinion.

Modifié par Fangirl17, 24 février 2010 - 08:32 .

[cmessaz]

Fangirl17 wrote...

I REALLY hope they fix the glitch at the end of the game where Alistair keeps thinking he's king when he's not. Its a very dissapointing and imersion breaking glitch that I think should be on the top of the list of glitches to fix.

So I decided to just watch RTO on youtube and the story was meh and for some reason I didnt like the banter between Alistair and Wynne. Although the items in RTO would have been useful if RTO was released when it was originally suppose to. But since its now to be released so close to Awakening its not worth it in my opinion.

That stupid glitch is one of the biggest reasons I bought DA for my PC. He does it on the PC version as well, but there is a mod that corrects it. He isn't supposed to refer to himself as king. With this mod, it reveals a whole coversation if you are romantically involved with Alistair after the landsmeet if you did not make him king that was unavailable before. This is why I can't play on the PS3.

[ziggurcat]

Sascha23 wrote...

ziggurcat wrote...

and again, i doubt there would be very many understanding xbox owners if these delays were on their platform.    
 

I really don't see the issue here. BioWare specifically modified the release dates of Dragon Age: Origins to ensure it would come out day-one on PS3. They are doing the same thing for Awakenings.

Are people really that up in arms because a small (roughly 90 minute) DLC will be arriving a month and some change later due to certification requirements set by Sony? The two weeks from certification approval are common as they need to be queued to get on PSN usually. Seems like an odd thing to be overly concerned with guys. 

if both versions were submitted at the same time (which i think they were from what i remember reading), the PS3 RtO should have been released maybe a week after 360/PC.  not 6 weeks. 

i know for a fact that the certification process for both platforms are very close in length, so this amount of time seems a little fishy to me, especially since they put out the 306/PC content almost immediately after it passed MS's cert process.  why are they waiting an extra 3 weeks when they could easily put it out tomorrow?.

and it's a matter of principle.  they should have waited until all 3 versions were ready so that no one got left out. 

[Ethikal]

Well its out on the 11th, end of story really. Like you all ain't just guessing what the delay was about.

[raistlin228]

Holy zombie Jesus! Huzzahs all around!

[xxSylphxx]

Ethikal wrote...

Well its out on the 11th, end of story really. Like you all ain't just guessing what the delay was about.

This is exactly my point Ethikal: All we have is speculation.

One or all (four I am guessing) parties involved in RTO going gold for PS3 could end all the rumors speculation and three way finger pointing with a simple disclosure beyond that it is going to be made available on the 11th of March. Well actually two way as Sony and EA both laid blame on BioWare, while BioWare blamed Sony (according to transcripts of conversations provided by forum members).

What happened? Have you (the parties involved) learned things from this that will better inform your decisions in the future? As BioWare stands to lose the most if this hurts sales (either by disinterest due to the late arrival or due to customers showing their displeasure by not purchasing this DLC) it would seem to be in their best interest to keep the fans happy. Your product is great. I truly enjoyed playing DAO. But, your level of communication on this issue could have been much better. Your communication level with your PS3 and Mac customers could still be much improved.

Come, spend some time visiting with the PS3 and Mac customers in their respective Technical Support Forums. I don’t even own a Mac and last I checked I have as many (if not more) posts there than any BioWare Representative. In the PS3 Tech Forum, it's no contest and that's without including any of my posts there on this issue. A visit now and again would help us feel valued. How about answering one question a week in each of the Technical Support Forums? It wouldn't take that much time, but it would earn you a great deal of appreciation from your customers. And, it would be a vast improvement in the PS3 and Mac forums over what you are currently doing.

Let our forums (the Mac and PS3) be seen by unregistered users. Browsing these forums unregistered would lead one to believe you don’t have any support options for Mac and PS3 customers. For those that have registered it still sends the wrong message, that message is that you don't want to be seen with us (Mac and PS3 customers) in public. Why? Are we all hideously ugly? The Mac customers seem very nice. They aren't even complaining much about having no DLC, let alone delayed DLC. There are PS3 customers who hand out cookies. Cookies are nice, even Sten likes them. Google's webcrawlers won't point and laugh at you for being seen with Mac and PS3 users. I promise!

Though you may not believe this or want to believe this, you can you have a great product and still lose customers. Delays are a part of the business and can be expected. Am I pleased that RTO won’t be released until March 11th? No, but I can handle that and much better now that it is a known quantity. Pardon my cliché' here: In life and business what happens to you is not something you may have any control over. How you handle what happens to you is something you can control and that is important.

So, what makes me special? What makes my opinions matter? Why is anything I say worth listening to? In my opinion it's because I am a customer. Am I a valued customer? Well, I can honestly say I feel significantly more valued with a release date on the table and with some assurances that Awakenings will be released for PS3 at the same time it is for PC and Xbox. However as I mentioned in earlier posts, and again here, there are things that could make me feel more valued. I believe making your customers feel valued does lead to value for your company. The things I have asked for (things others here have also independently asked for) don't take a large amount of time to invest in, but I believe they are investments that will show many fine returns.

Not as a threat, boycot or ultimatum, but merely as proof of the sincerity of my requests, I will make my purchase of Awakenings and RTO contingent upon fulfilling ANY one of my above requests. Give me but one and you've got my money. It may be more punishment for me than you BioWare if you fail to oblige me on any of these points, as I have enjoyed your games and Dragon Age Orgins in particular, but less punishment for me than my words being empty to mysylph.

But honestly, I don't think it's just my money on the line. If it were just my money, you wouldn't even recover your hourly rate reading a post this long with my purchase of RTO or maybe even Awakenings. I spend my time writing this and hope someone from BioWare spends their time reading this because I believe I am correct. I believe I am correct and that you do stand to lose sales over 'little things' like getting people excited to purchase a product and then not making it available nor telling them when it will be available for several weeks after when they thought they would have already been using the product. Even as small an issue as hiding the Mac and PS3 Tech forums is, it is little things like this that can snowball and lead customers to rethink being future customers.

Modifié par xxSylphxx, 25 février 2010 - 03:02 .

[Fangirl17]

xxSylphxx wrote...





Let our forums (the Mac and PS3) be seen by unregistered users. Browsing these forums unregistered would lead one to believe you don’t have any support options for Mac and PS3 customers. For those that have registered it still sends the wrong message, that message is that you don't want to be seen with us (Mac and PS3 customers) in public. Why? Are we all hideously ugly? The Mac customers seem very nice. They aren't even complaining much about having no DLC, let alone delayed DLC. There are PS3 customers who hand out cookies. Cookies are nice, even Sten likes them. Google's webcrawlers won't point and laugh at you for being seen with Mac and PS3 users. I promise!





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lol I was the one handing out cyber cookies in the PS3 forum. Im glad people liked my cookies.

[Anyroad2]

Like so many others here, I'm glad that my console is finally seeing news and a date for RtO.

Also like so many others, I'm not sure if I'll even bother with it now. Sorta a "To little too late" deal here.



The only thing really pulling me into getting it is the fact that it has a trophy. =\\

I want to keep my 100% complete on DAO. We wont be able to carry the gear over, and I could just read the content of RtO in detail on a wiki page or something. =p



We'll see though. =)

[CyGogetenks]

To be honest i've got all three versions. I love all three versions for different reasons, the PC version because i can boot up the graphics to the extreme and not have any issues considering all i have are SDTV's, the modding abilities. The Xbox 360 Version due to the fact that the DLC was released on that and PC editions and the PS3 version due i part of the controls and how i like the feel of the PS3's controller over the 360's or the control scheme for the PC version.



While i'm glad that RtO finally has a release date for us PS3 consumers i'm not happy that it's so close to Awakening. Will i get it? Yes due in part that i've got the money saved for it on my PSN. Will i get Awakening? Yes due in part that it's already bought and paid for at GameStop. Do i wish that BioWare would pay attention more to us PS3 and Mac Consumers? I do. We spend money just like 360 and Mac users. Because BioWare has done more with Microsoft does not mean they need to show Microsoft more love by putting it on their machines first. PC's technically run either Linux or MS and since most people run MS i consider it a MS system. So please for future DLC please get on the ball sooner.





Thanks....





Gogetenks former PS3 only user, now uses all three: PC, PS3, and 360.

[Firehead19782]

It just goes to show they released it  for PC and 360 and said screw PS3 owners we'll release it when we get around to it. Man Bioware is Worthless. I don't expect to see awakening on the PS3 on time since they can't even keep a release date on a little DLC like this, how do you expect them to keep thier promise on a big release like awakening. SCREW BIOWARE.

[PrimeTimeJprime]

Firehead19782 wrote...

It just goes to show they released it  for PC and 360 and said screw PS3 owners we'll release it when we get around to it. Man Bioware is Worthless. I don't expect to see awakening on the PS3 on time since they can't even keep a release date on a little DLC like this, how do you expect them to keep thier promise on a big release like awakening. SCREW BIOWARE.

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH  shutup princess

[JudgeOverdose]

Many times things happen behind the scenes that remain between parties that need to know. Could there have been hiccups? Is there potential dirty laundry? I have no idea. Neither do you. I am sure that BioWare does not want to be unprofessional, and I am sure that Sony does not either. Why would they point the finger at each other to satisfy forum jockeys and risk their reputation? They would not.



I'm not debating the fact that it sucks that the dlc was delayed, especially as long as it was.



What I can say without a doubt (in my mind) is that the intention isn't to break PS3 users hearts. Even from a strictly business standpoint, if you're looking to maximize profits, why would you screw a large part of your consumer base? That's like using your paycheck for toilet paper; it makes no sense.



Take it for what you will. I promise you, however, that making threats, issuing prayers, being relentless in your complaining will do absolutely no good at all. You're better off playing a different game, reading a book, going outside and enjoying the fresh air, watching tv, or attempting to discover the secret to cold fusion.

[10 Steps Back]

JudgeOverdose wrote...

Take it for what you will. I promise you, however, that making threats, issuing prayers, being relentless in your complaining will do absolutely no good at all. You're better off playing a different game, reading a book, going outside and enjoying the fresh air, watching tv, or attempting to discover the secret to cold fusion.

What is this outside you speak of?

[Kahlmulandr]

Ok as a PC user I have to say two things:

1. I actually feel sorry for PS3 players having to wait this long...heck I wouldnt even mind if you got some bonus content just as a "we are sorry we took so long"

2. Don't fret so much the DLC is enjoyable but not a gamebreaker

[Fexelea]

Bioware is a company that listens to its forums and its fanbase. It is people who did not give up and complained about decisions that got NG+ back into ME2. Based on that I would think that it is appropriate to encourage users who find themselves without proper information to clamor for more. It will in turn encourage Bioware to improve at handling delays and multi-platform releases from a PR perspective

[thedrakeslayer]

@ Kahlmulandr RTO isn't the worst of it. A lot of us won't even be able to play Awakening when it comes out because it won't even be on disc. Sony's mostly to blame, but Bioware should have put it on disc instead of making it DLC - then everybody could enjoy it.

[Wournos]

xxSylphxx wrote...

Let our forums (the Mac and PS3) be seen by unregistered users. Browsing these forums unregistered would lead one to believe you don’t have any support options for Mac and PS3 customers. For those that have registered it still sends the wrong message, that message is that you don't want to be seen with us (Mac and PS3 customers) in public. Why? Are we all hideously ugly? The Mac customers seem very nice. They aren't even complaining much about having no DLC, let alone delayed DLC. There are PS3 customers who hand out cookies. Cookies are nice, even Sten likes them. Google's webcrawlers won't point and laugh at you for being seen with Mac and PS3 users. I promise!

I honestly wish that I had known about the Mac game before buying the PS3 game. Not because I think it would be better prioritized, because I honestly don't believe it would. Mac feels very neglected in the games world and I try to buy Mac games to, in an extremely small way, show that there are Mac gamers.

The reason why I think Mac gamers don't complain alot is because we know (or at least believe) that we are a small group and probably won't get heard as much as PC or PS3. But maybe we should voice our opinions no matter what game we play to make a change.

[Quill74Pen]

JudgeOverdose wrote...

Take it for what you will. I promise you, however, that making threats, issuing prayers, being relentless in your complaining will do absolutely no good at all. You're better off playing a different game, reading a book, going outside and enjoying the fresh air, watching tv, or attempting to discover the secret to cold fusion.

Cold fusion? Well, there's a topic you rarely hear in everyday conversation. I like you! **LOL**

Quill74Pen