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[Sandtigress]

Teagan definitely needs to be a romance option. Ha, that would make a great boon at the end, wouldn't it? "I just want to settle down and try to live a normal life." Epilogue card: "The Hero of Ferelden found a happy home with Bann Teagan of Rainesfaire, and together the happy couple eventually made their home in Redcliffe when Eamon abdicated in favor of his brother to become a permanent advisor for the crown." Yeah, someone needs to do that.

[RobinMichelleB]

Allerleihrau wrote...

Hm, it's not so much a decision, but more additional dialogue, but I'd really like to have the possibility to put Eamon in his place when he starts planning how to get Alistair on the Throne.
I wish I could tell him to shut up about Alistair's duty as Maric's son and his duty to Ferelden and remind him that Alistair has already enough duties as it is, being a Grey Warden. Also, while I'm certainly far from being a fan of Alistair's, I hate how Eamon uses him for his own schemes. He sent him of to the Chantry as a child, because he wasn't able to stand up to his hag of a wife and now when Alistair becomes useful again, he's trying to guilt him into doing something that Alistair was never prepared for.

So, telling Eamon that if he want's to bring down Anora, he'll have to take the crown himself instead of using a manipulable puppet like Alistair is one desicion I miss.

The more I thought about it after my first playthrough, the more it seems that Eamon is really trying to make a power play. He was already trying to get Cailan to dump Anora, so now, I have no problem putting Anora on the throne, especially since I don't tell Eamon that until the Landsmeet.

Plus, it makes sense to me. She's already respected by the people and by foreign nations, and I really feel like she would cause a problem for Alistair if you put him on the throne. Not to mention that he doesn't want to be king, and he loves ME, and I'm a MAGE, so Eamon can shove it!

[rak72]

I would love to hit Isold (sp?) in the head with the butt of my sword when she says," Teeeeegan, who is this woman?"

Then, Kick her in the teeth when she's like - Alistair????? WTF are YOU doing here?



Would love to save Ser Otto - kept having to save & reload to get him to the end alive, then - Pitchfork



Bann Tegan romance would be great. And how awsome would it be if you could persuade Duncan to come back to your room (instead of the pasty red headded guy)



I would also like to clock Morigan in the teeth when she tell Alistair that "he won't dislike this as much as he thinks". They should also have given him a more horrified look of disgust when the ritual was taking place

[Sabriana]

Loghain has a horrified look of disgust on his face, so yeah, they could've given that to Alistair.



I would've also loved it if Ser Gilmore heeded my call to try and escape with Eleanor (the best mother ever) and my PC.



I'd also love to be able to tell Tamlen to lay off the mirror, and to get back to camp with my DE.

[e-ver]

RobinMichelleB wrote...
The more I thought about it after my first playthrough, the more it seems that Eamon is really trying to make a power play. He was already trying to get Cailan to dump Anora, so now, I have no problem putting Anora on the throne, especially since I don't tell Eamon that until the Landsmeet.

Plus, it makes sense to me. She's already respected by the people and by foreign nations, and I really feel like she would cause a problem for Alistair if you put him on the throne. Not to mention that he doesn't want to be king, and he loves ME, and I'm a MAGE, so Eamon can shove it!

Heh true, after this interesting letter we find in RtO, Eamon seems even more shifty than before.

I agree 100% with your reasoning on letting Anora keep the throne (apart from the romance, I'll let you have Alistair for yourself  ), she has proven that she can do it, Alistair has Grey Warden stuff to do and there's a chance that Eamon might have an apoplexy when he finds out - it's a win-win-situation. I also can't keep myself from making Dalish characters, so my PCs usually don't get the whole Therrin bloodline thing anyway.


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Sabriana wrote...

*snip*

I'd also love to be able to tell Tamlen to lay off the mirror, and to get back to camp with my DE.

*sniff* Yes, that! It would mess up Duncan's recruitment strategy quite a bit, but who cares about Duncan anyway.

Modifié par Allerleihrau, 23 février 2010 - 07:11 .

[CalJones]

Leave Arl Eamon to die (well, not that he was going to - DG says Loghain just wanted to incapacitate him so it wasn't fatal). Eamon pees me off because he starts treating Alistair like doggy do once his sow of a wife kicks up a stink about it, yet as soon as Cailan dies he siezes on Alistair as a replacement so he can act as advisor and get political influence through him. He might come across all nice and noble, but I'd rather kill him off and replace him with Teagan.

(At least you have the option to let his wife die, stupid cow).



Use the rite of conscription on Jowan. This was originally planned but was cut from the game early on. Pity - I liked Jowan and it would have been cool to have a blood mage.



Tell Wynne to stuff it when she asks a mage Warden to consider taking over the Circle, *after* she's given you all those lectures on what it means to be a Warden.



Actually be able buy nice gifty things from Liselle the Orlesian perfume seller in Denerim.



Another one who wants to save Ser Otto (not that you couldn't see that death coming a mile off...but poor guy. I liked him).



Most of all, though, I'd like more dialogue options where you're not forced down the "Loghain's a traitor, I will have my revenge!" path. The Warden doesn't actually see what happened at Ostagar and only has Morrigan's word for it, yet Alistair jumps straight on the Loghain is evil bandwagon. This, despite him saying you'd missed the signal when you were in the tower.

I know there's pages and pages of pro and anti Loghain sentiment and this is not about that - but I would really have appreciated some more questioning-type dialogue options, ya know "Are you sure Loghain was to blame, Alistair? We did miss the signal after all, and I was stood right there when he told the king not to fight on the front lines." etc.



(I'd quite like an option to shag Loghain as well, but ahem, that's just me... I'm always guaranteed to fancy the one non-romanceable male in any given Bioware game).

[e-ver]

Something else that just came to my mind (though that too is not really a decision): I'd love to pick up Zevran earlier. In every new game it takes me forever to decide if I want to go to Redcliffe or the Tower of Mages first, because I want Zevran for both. Agh!

CalJones wrote...

*snip*

(I'd quite like an option to shag Loghain as well, but ahem, that's just me... I'm always guaranteed to fancy the one non-romanceable male in any given Bioware game).

While I would probably not have utilised a Loghain "romance" (ah, who am I kidding, of course I would have made a character to try it), I too, would have liked more options both in the Landsmeet and afterwards.

And I feel just like you about unromanceable (is that a word?) characters in Bioware games. I had a crush on Kivan in Baldur's Gate I and being stuck with Anomen in Baldur's Gate II when I only ever wanted Valygar was cruel. (Until the Valygar romance mod came along of course. )

Modifié par Allerleihrau, 23 février 2010 - 07:25 .

[soignee]

I would like a "put Loghain in the tower" option, as the death and Anora's blood splattered face is horrible. It really made me want to kick Alistair in the nuts for that. >:|



thirding (forthing?) The Bann Sexy option. He can bannhammer me anytime he wants TEA-GHANNN, WHO EES DIS WOHMAN?

[Reaverwind]

rak72 wrote...

I would love to hit Isold (sp?) in the head with the butt of my sword when she says," Teeeeegan, who is this woman?"

Why was there no b****slap option should available for occasions like this?

[e-ver]

Another thing I would have liked is an additional option when dealing with the werewolf situation: after killing the werewolves with Zathrian (so I know about the origins of the curse), I'd like to let the clan know the truth about th curse and Zathrian's alleged rediscovery of the elven immortality. Then the clan could decide if they want to replace him as Keeper or punish him or whatever.

Modifié par Allerleihrau, 23 février 2010 - 07:30 .

[rak72]

Dropping the dime on Zanthrian would be the right thing to do. Also, the Teegan romance would be a great way for a human mage to get back at Alistair for dumping her.

It would be cool if Duncan is really not dead, that would also be good revenge for getting dumped

[odiedragon]

Allerleihrau wrote...

Hm, it's not so much a decision, but more additional dialogue, but I'd really like to have the possibility to put Eamon in his place when he starts planning how to get Alistair on the Throne.
I wish I could tell him to shut up about Alistair's duty as Maric's son and his duty to Ferelden and remind him that Alistair has already enough duties as it is, being a Grey Warden. Also, while I'm certainly far from being a fan of Alistair's, I hate how Eamon uses him for his own schemes. He sent him of to the Chantry as a child, because he wasn't able to stand up to his hag of a wife and now when Alistair becomes useful again, he's trying to guilt him into doing something that Alistair was never prepared for.

So, telling Eamon that if he want's to bring down Anora, he'll have to take the crown himself instead of using a manipulable puppet like Alistair is one desicion I miss.

THIS.  A thousand times this.  Except for the part I crossed out, which doesn't apply to me

You should just be able to let Eamon die.  Shurg and look stupid, and Teagan backs you anyway.  Or, as was said, tell Eamon to put his money where his mouth is.  If he wants a different canditdate for the throne than Anora, step up or GTFO.

Anyway.  That's my biggest beef with the game.

The other two glaring things that should clearly be options:
1) Conscripting Jowan
2) Be able to crown yourself as a Dwarven Noble, claiming the Paragon said they wanted you on the throne.

[RobinMichelleB]

Allerleihrau wrote...

RobinMichelleB wrote...
The more I thought about it after my first playthrough, the more it seems that Eamon is really trying to make a power play. He was already trying to get Cailan to dump Anora, so now, I have no problem putting Anora on the throne, especially since I don't tell Eamon that until the Landsmeet.

Plus, it makes sense to me. She's already respected by the people and by foreign nations, and I really feel like she would cause a problem for Alistair if you put him on the throne. Not to mention that he doesn't want to be king, and he loves ME, and I'm a MAGE, so Eamon can shove it!

Heh true, after this interesting letter we find in RtO, Eamon seems even more shifty than before.

I agree 100% with your reasoning on letting Anora keep the throne (apart from the romance, I'll let you have Alistair for yourself  ), she has proven that she can do it, Alistair has Grey Warden stuff to do and there's a chance that Eamon might have an apoplexy when he finds out - it's a win-win-situation. I also can't keep myself from making Dalish characters, so my PCs usually don't get the whole Therrin bloodline thing anyway.

I always save Eamon and his family. I would love to be able to fight with him about his shady motivations and Alistair, especially since that is SO my mage character.

*pokes Eamon in chest* I saved your whiny wife, your kid, and you! STFU and show me some respect! No? *winter's grasp* Fine. Stay that way.

Modifié par RobinMichelleB, 23 février 2010 - 08:00 .

[Reaverwind]

odiedragon wrote...

Allerleihrau wrote...

Hm, it's not so much a decision, but more additional dialogue, but I'd really like to have the possibility to put Eamon in his place when he starts planning how to get Alistair on the Throne.
I wish I could tell him to shut up about Alistair's duty as Maric's son and his duty to Ferelden and remind him that Alistair has already enough duties as it is, being a Grey Warden. Also, while I'm certainly far from being a fan of Alistair's, I hate how Eamon uses him for his own schemes. He sent him of to the Chantry as a child, because he wasn't able to stand up to his hag of a wife and now when Alistair becomes useful again, he's trying to guilt him into doing something that Alistair was never prepared for.

So, telling Eamon that if he want's to bring down Anora, he'll have to take the crown himself instead of using a manipulable puppet like Alistair is one desicion I miss.

THIS.  A thousand times this.  Except for the part I crossed out, which doesn't apply to me

This for me was a major plothole. Based on all the bits of lore I picked up, I gathered that Alistair pretty much gave up all claim to the throne just by becoming a Grey Warden. I'd put Anora on the throne for that reason alone in every game - except for that little snippet about the city elves.

[wonko33]

I wanted my dwarf commoner to dispose of the two weakbutt Dwarven possibles and put his nephew on the throne, with me as regent of course .



I Wanted to tell the Arl Eamon that his whole estate and his people were put in danger because Isolde is a selfish, stupid .... person

[e-ver]

RobinMichelleB wrote...
I always save Eamon and his family. I would love to be able to fight with him about his shady motivations and Alistair, especially since that is SO my mage character.

*pokes Eamon in chest* I saved your whiny wife, your kid, and you! STFU and show me some respect! No? *winter's grasp* Fine. Stay that way.

Exactly, and since I don't get that option I don't bend over backwards to save his entire family (although I feel pretty bad about killing Connor). I do however get a great satisfaction out of refusing any reward. He is always so thrown off his guard when I tell him that "I don't need a human lord's gratitude" - as if my character would not have his number when he want's to hail my group as champions of Redcliffe, it's nothing else than the Dwarven craftsmen giving extravagant items to nobles, hoping to gain the favour of their house.

Modifié par Allerleihrau, 23 février 2010 - 08:12 .

[wonko33]

Oh and my Dalish wanted to option " I could not care less" when asked who should be king. (Human and Dwarf kings that is)

[HarlequinDream]

wonko33 wrote...

Oh and my Dalish wanted to option " I could not care less" when asked who should be king. (Human and Dwarf kings that is)

That's how I play my Dalish.

She's sort of like "...I do not care. At all."

Which is why she picks Behlen. "You'll get me my troops ASAP? Fine. Championing you."

[e-ver]

wonko33 wrote...

Oh and my Dalish wanted to option " I could not care less" when asked who should be king. (Human and Dwarf kings that is)

Absolutely!
And when Alistair starts telling me about his heritage upon entering Redcliffe, I'd like to able to say "I don't see how it matters if your father was some king. You're a Grey Warden now. Besides, we Dalish have no kings, so you wouldn't be my king anyway."

(I really like dropping the "We Dalish have no kings" line on Loghain in Ostagar, he's always so annoyed. )


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HarlequinDream wrote...

That's how I play my Dalish.

She's sort of like "...I do not care. At all."

Which is why she picks Behlen. "You'll get me my troops ASAP? Fine. Championing you."

Interesting, my Dalish always pick Harrowmont, because he is the conservative choice and my characters wouldn't want to put someone on the throne who brings the Dwarves closer to the shemlen... ah humans.

Modifié par Allerleihrau, 23 février 2010 - 09:00 .

[Axekix]

I want a romance Isolde option! Maybe that would take her mind off Connor?

[CalJones]

Reaverwind wrote...

odiedragon wrote...

Allerleihrau wrote...

Hm, it's not so much a decision, but more additional dialogue, but I'd really like to have the possibility to put Eamon in his place when he starts planning how to get Alistair on the Throne.
I wish I could tell him to shut up about Alistair's duty as Maric's son and his duty to Ferelden and remind him that Alistair has already enough duties as it is, being a Grey Warden. Also, while I'm certainly far from being a fan of Alistair's, I hate how Eamon uses him for his own schemes. He sent him of to the Chantry as a child, because he wasn't able to stand up to his hag of a wife and now when Alistair becomes useful again, he's trying to guilt him into doing something that Alistair was never prepared for.

So, telling Eamon that if he want's to bring down Anora, he'll have to take the crown himself instead of using a manipulable puppet like Alistair is one desicion I miss.

THIS.  A thousand times this.  Except for the part I crossed out, which doesn't apply to me

This for me was a major plothole. Based on all the bits of lore I picked up, I gathered that Alistair pretty much gave up all claim to the throne just by becoming a Grey Warden. I'd put Anora on the throne for that reason alone in every game - except for that little snippet about the city elves.

Yup and yet there's fierce arguing over Alistair having more claim to the throne than Anora over on the Anora misunderstood thread.

There does seem to be some inconsistency in the whole Warden/nobility claim thing, but perhaps it's a case of making exceptions in times of trouble. (Seems daft to me though).

Romance Isolde? Eww!

[guytza]

Reaverwind wrote...

odiedragon wrote...

Allerleihrau wrote...

Hm, it's not so much a decision, but more additional dialogue, but I'd really like to have the possibility to put Eamon in his place when he starts planning how to get Alistair on the Throne.
I wish I could tell him to shut up about Alistair's duty as Maric's son and his duty to Ferelden and remind him that Alistair has already enough duties as it is, being a Grey Warden. Also, while I'm certainly far from being a fan of Alistair's, I hate how Eamon uses him for his own schemes. He sent him of to the Chantry as a child, because he wasn't able to stand up to his hag of a wife and now when Alistair becomes useful again, he's trying to guilt him into doing something that Alistair was never prepared for.

So, telling Eamon that if he want's to bring down Anora, he'll have to take the crown himself instead of using a manipulable puppet like Alistair is one desicion I miss.

THIS.  A thousand times this.  Except for the part I crossed out, which doesn't apply to me

This for me was a major plothole. Based on all the bits of lore I picked up, I gathered that Alistair pretty much gave up all claim to the throne just by becoming a Grey Warden. I'd put Anora on the throne for that reason alone in every game - except for that little snippet about the city elves.

My Dalish elf ending actually would have made you both pretty happy.
Alistair wasnt hardened so he said screw the throne and I backed his decision, result >> Alistair gets a decently happy ending staying with the Grey Wardens.
I take lands for the Dalish to own, thus giving the elves a place to live besides the alienage, thus when the snippit comes up about the city elves having issues, I thought "Well I gave you a homeland and you stayed in the sewer, you deserved it."

As for Isolde, I'd love to have the option to backhand her as she comes running down the hill, and when Teagan says something respond with "Oh, sorry. Mistook her for more undead, my bad.....screeching banshee."

[Alandros]

In the Human Male Noble starting story I wanted an option to save Iona's life (she was a very sweet and nice character). In regards to that I also wanted to be able to have an interaction with her child in the Alienage, maybe give the child some money or tell her what happened to her mom, etc. I was surprised that they just alluded to her child being there with a non dialogue based voice comment that is said.

[Kryyptehk]

mousestalker wrote...

Well, there is one decision that more or less ruined the mage origin for me. Do I: A) rat Jowan out to the First Enchanter or Help my 'friend' with his half baked plan which leaves me holding the bag?

I would have liked: C) I can't help you Jowan as I'm leaving for Ostagar to join the Grey Wardens.

It would have kept the Mage Origin short (which is apparently what the writers wanted) and been true to character (which would have kept me happy) as well as setting up the next encounter with the whiny blood mage at Redcliffe.

My character always snitched to Irving, because I think she would be offended that her friend would dare fall in love with someone whose order basically imprisons them. I just can't imagine why you would be happy about a mage fraternizing with a priest. Ugh, makes my character's skin crawl:sick: