**Spoilers...obviously***
In ME1, we found out that Sovereign was recruiting Geth because machines were more predictable and better pawns for the Reapers. They didn't like organics like the Keepers because time/evolution could make them unpredictable and unstable, and more prone to failure.
If that's the case, why'd they change from Geth to Collectors to do their dirty work in ME2. I understand they probably had the Collectors in development or whatever for the last 50,000 years, but still, just churn out a few million Geth and have them make a base through the Omega 4.
Are the Reapers going backwards, or am I missing something? Did they simply want to use what they'd already been producing?
Aren't the Collectors obsolete?
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Posté 23 février 2010 - 03:20
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The Collectors are mindless drones and are mostly tech anyway.
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Posté 23 février 2010 - 03:22
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Well, the geth got owned so the reapers went to plan B. The collectors may be obselete but they are still powerful.
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Posté 23 février 2010 - 03:34
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The Geth have proven to be a P.I.T.A.
Instead of all of them falling head over heels over Old Machines ... a large majority decided to "find their own future". So instead of having control over Geth, they just managed to charm a small fraction.
Artificially designed species, like the collectors, insures 100% loyalty at least for a while, before natural evolution can interfere (like in case of the Keepers).
Instead of all of them falling head over heels over Old Machines ... a large majority decided to "find their own future". So instead of having control over Geth, they just managed to charm a small fraction.
Artificially designed species, like the collectors, insures 100% loyalty at least for a while, before natural evolution can interfere (like in case of the Keepers).
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Posté 23 février 2010 - 03:40
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PingoBlack wrote...
The Geth have proven to be a P.I.T.A.
Instead of all of them falling head over heels over Old Machines ... a large majority decided to "find their own future". So instead of having control over Geth, they just managed to charm a small fraction.
Artificially designed species, like the collectors, insures 100% loyalty at least for a while, before natural evolution can interfere (like in case of the Keepers).
That wasnt natural evolution, but deliberate alterations.
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Posté 23 février 2010 - 03:42
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Makes sense to me.
In a game of chess a queen maybe the most powerful but you don't throw her straight into the thick of it... you send your pawns first to soften them up first because it isn't a big deal if you loose them. The Geth were pawns in Sovereigns game.
Combined with the fact the Geth numbers appear to be much much larger with entire fleets compared to the Collectors with only a single Cruiser
In a game of chess a queen maybe the most powerful but you don't throw her straight into the thick of it... you send your pawns first to soften them up first because it isn't a big deal if you loose them. The Geth were pawns in Sovereigns game.
Combined with the fact the Geth numbers appear to be much much larger with entire fleets compared to the Collectors with only a single Cruiser
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Posté 23 février 2010 - 03:43
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Who's to say they didn't already have the Collectors on standby to churn out a new reaper while the Saren conflict was going on? It makes sense if the theory that they use the strongest species to bolster their own numbers holds true.
Even if the invasion failed, Shepard's actions gave humanity their attention, so they may as well begin the process while they find another way into the galaxy.
Even if the invasion failed, Shepard's actions gave humanity their attention, so they may as well begin the process while they find another way into the galaxy.
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Posté 23 février 2010 - 03:44
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No, the Keepers naturally evolved to only respond to signals from the Citadel rather than the Reapers directly. The Protheans then modified the signal itself, preventing remote activation of the Citadel by Sovereign.AntiChri5 wrote...
PingoBlack wrote...
The Geth have proven to be a P.I.T.A.
Instead of all of them falling head over heels over Old Machines ... a large majority decided to "find their own future". So instead of having control over Geth, they just managed to charm a small fraction.
Artificially designed species, like the collectors, insures 100% loyalty at least for a while, before natural evolution can interfere (like in case of the Keepers).
That wasnt natural evolution, but deliberate alterations.
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Posté 23 février 2010 - 03:46
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Nah, the Collector's are a step forward. Remember when Harbinger took control of certain Collectors? The Collectors were mindless drones/puppets/pawns that the Reapers could control despite being far away. They could also control the ''reproduction'' of Collectors. The Geth proved to have internal issues of Heretics vs non Heretics. The Reapers had hoped to exploit the Geth v Quarian/organics conflict but failed.
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Posté 23 février 2010 - 03:47
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This shows how limited in resources the Collectors truly were. If they really only had one ship, one base, then they would be worthless to Sovereign's plans. He needed an army to storm the citadel with him even after the Conduit was found. the Collectors wouldn't have been much help in the battle.
Thus yeah the Collectors were really a back up plan, probably mostly forgotten by the Reapers until Sovereign was defeated.
Thus yeah the Collectors were really a back up plan, probably mostly forgotten by the Reapers until Sovereign was defeated.
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Posté 23 février 2010 - 03:52
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Well not completely forgotten, the Reapers probably used them to study the life in the Galaxy. Get a good idea of the abilities of the species that had evolved since the last reaping.
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Posté 23 février 2010 - 03:57
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The Collectors have been active since way before the geth attack on the Citadel. It's just they were used for obtaining small alien 'samples' (slaves), for the Reapers to study. They're clearly the Reapers' laboratory minions.
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Posté 23 février 2010 - 04:06
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The Geth have lost most of their forces in the Citadel attack, and while the speed of churning out new Geth can be debatable, they are not willing to risk more attacks.
Also, I believe only a reaper can signal the Citadel's relay to open up. After Sovereign's destruction there are no more reapers left inside the galaxy, so they go to plan B: the collectors. They are on a hurry to assemble a new reaper that's why they start kidnapping entire human colonies.
Also, I believe only a reaper can signal the Citadel's relay to open up. After Sovereign's destruction there are no more reapers left inside the galaxy, so they go to plan B: the collectors. They are on a hurry to assemble a new reaper that's why they start kidnapping entire human colonies.
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Posté 23 février 2010 - 04:13
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Gill Kaiser wrote...
No, the Keepers naturally evolved to only respond to signals from the Citadel rather than the Reapers directly. The Protheans then modified the signal itself, preventing remote activation of the Citadel by Sovereign.AntiChri5 wrote...
PingoBlack wrote...
The Geth have proven to be a P.I.T.A.
Instead of all of them falling head over heels over Old Machines ... a large majority decided to "find their own future". So instead of having control over Geth, they just managed to charm a small fraction.
Artificially designed species, like the collectors, insures 100% loyalty at least for a while, before natural evolution can interfere (like in case of the Keepers).
That wasnt natural evolution, but deliberate alterations.
Ah. I though i was standing in front of you when really i was behind you and just facing the wrong way.
