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Pythonicus

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I finished the Suicide Mission last night. I thought I had everything right. My Shepard is a soldier level 30. Full paragon playing on veteran. All squadmates are loyal and they have all of the upgrades available. The only upgrade not done is hardened shields.
At the beginning sent Tali down the shaft and Garrus led the second team. I took Legion and Miranda with me. Blew throught that part easily, rescued the Normandy crew. Sent Samara back with them to Normandy.
On the next section used Miranda to hold the field, Garrus led the second team again and took Jack and Legion with me. At the end Jack got swarmed and carried off.
Any ideas as to why this combination got her killed?

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Biotic_Warlock

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Miranda was the wrong choice for the biotic field... She is a sentinel in a way, You need a pure biotic.

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Pythonicus wrote...

I finished the Suicide Mission last night. I thought I had everything right. My Shepard is a soldier level 30. Full paragon playing on veteran. All squadmates are loyal and they have all of the upgrades available. The only upgrade not done is hardened shields.
At the beginning sent Tali down the shaft and Garrus led the second team. I took Legion and Miranda with me. Blew throught that part easily, rescued the Normandy crew. Sent Samara back with them to Normandy.
On the next section used Miranda to hold the field, Garrus led the second team again and took Jack and Legion with me. At the end Jack got swarmed and carried off.
Any ideas as to why this combination got her killed?


Mirandas biotic powers imo. You should have usen either SuZe or Samara

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She died because Miranda isn't very good at holding the barrier. To make sure everyone survives that part, make Samara or Jack hold the barrier and everything should be alright.

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The Happy One

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No loss, really. Who's going to miss an ugly bald chick?

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Pythonicus wrote...

I finished the Suicide Mission last night. I thought I had everything right. My Shepard is a soldier level 30. Full paragon playing on veteran. All squadmates are loyal and they have all of the upgrades available. The only upgrade not done is hardened shields.
At the beginning sent Tali down the shaft and Garrus led the second team. I took Legion and Miranda with me. Blew throught that part easily, rescued the Normandy crew. Sent Samara back with them to Normandy.
On the next section used Miranda to hold the field, Garrus led the second team again and took Jack and Legion with me. At the end Jack got swarmed and carried off.
Any ideas as to why this combination got her killed?


Miranda is not powerful enough to hold off the swarms, you need a full biotic - either Samara or Jack can pull it off if loyal, but no one else can.

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ZaroktheImmortal

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Jack or Samara are the ones to choose for the Biotic Field.

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Pythonicus wrote...

I finished the Suicide Mission last night. I thought I had everything right. My Shepard is a soldier level 30. Full paragon playing on veteran. All squadmates are loyal and they have all of the upgrades available. The only upgrade not done is hardened shields.
At the beginning sent Tali down the shaft and Garrus led the second team. I took Legion and Miranda with me. Blew throught that part easily, rescued the Normandy crew. Sent Samara back with them to Normandy.
On the next section used Miranda to hold the field, Garrus led the second team again and took Jack and Legion with me. At the end Jack got swarmed and carried off.
Any ideas as to why this combination got her killed?

use samara for the shield.

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Biotic_Warlock

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Lol Jacob is an option, if you wanna kill of someone you hate, and possibly dislike another person that if they died you didnt care... Choose Thane, Jacob or another person with minor biotics just to see what they do,... it would probably be the same but they just dont do the bug zap thing.

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Can Morinth be a good choice for a biotic field? I dont have Samara and i dont have Jacks loyalty.

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Jack didn't have the common sense to put up her own Biotic field when Miranda failed.
It's Miranda's fault for saying that 'Any Biotic can hold the barrier', even though she fails at it.
But yeah, Jack or Samara/Morinth for Biotic Barrier Holder every time unless you want to lose somebody.

Modifié par TheEdders, 23 février 2010 - 04:45 .


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Biotic_Warlock

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JRCHOharry wrote...

Can Morinth be a good choice for a biotic field? I dont have Samara and i dont have Jacks loyalty.


Yes, Morinth and Samara are practically the same.

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JRCHOharry wrote...

Can Morinth be a good choice for a biotic field? I dont have Samara and i dont have Jacks loyalty.


Yep .. her and Samara are pretty much the same ..

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Yep Morinth = Samara, i did it and it worked.

In fact the only difference is the name at the start of the line, if you have subtitles on, when she talks.

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Pythonicus

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Thanks so much for the quick replies. Good to know

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Asheer_Khan

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Miri can't be chosen (as many pointed here) as shield holder because she is too weak but she can be easy assigned as leader of second team.



Good squad for that part is Samara as shield holder and Garrus whit Zaeed as fire support to keeping collectors in check (whit Garrus and Zaeed in squad even harbinger drones are dealt pretty quick.).

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Pythonicus

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I used Jack there because she is a beast killing husks and most of the combat there is pretty close quarters.

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Asheer_Khan

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Jack can be in shield party of course but then Samara is MUST BE to hold that bio shield.



Key for that part is that at the end both Samara or Jack (depend who will hold shield) will generate powerful shockwave to push back any collector chase but if you chose Miri (or Jacob) as shield holder at the end they will be simply too weak and tired and that's why seekers will have chance to grab someone.



I really wish to have Liara at this part because she could be powerful in off to hold that shield so Jack and Samara could be free to send husks and collectors where lobsters spends winter...

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Man, I would reconstruct this situation just to tell Miranda that it was her fault, and if she ever tells me again how superior and perfect she is, I will have EDI open the airlock of her room.

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The Happy One wrote...

No loss, really. Who's going to miss an ugly bald chick?


That wasn't necessary. Me and many other people like her a lot. Just because she's not some generic **** with a huge ass like Miranda. Go be shallow more k thx.

Modifié par Jackal904, 23 février 2010 - 05:27 .


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yeah because jack aint the generic avril lavaigne fuked up teenager full of issues right ?

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Only a loyal Jack or Samara can get you through the swarm without casualties. Miranda, Jacob and Thane will fall down at the end and you will lose a crew member, no matter the loyalty.

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I have played a LOT of variants - I have used Miranda, jack, Samara each multiple times in holding the biotic barrier - all without incident - I have done varied levels of degrees and squad consistencies - What I have invariably found, that no matter WHAT you do - if you Bring Jack to the Final fight vs the Human reaper - SHE DIES - I tried every variation I could think of, loyal, not loyal, swapping out weapons, lowering difficulty level EVEN changing her outfit - JACK Dies - I can only assume it is because she, and ONLY she has NO protection of ANY kind for her back, spine and collarbone - what kills her is the SNAP of the platform as it falls after you dispatch the human reaper - in the cut-scene - I have found the most consistent way to save her is to send her as the escort for the crew.

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i well boned Jack =D

but yea, Samara or Jack are good choices!

I was actually going to consider using Miranda but shes such a **** i didnt want her near my character

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i well boned Jack =D

but yea, Samara or Jack are good choices!

I was actually going to consider using Miranda but shes such a **** i didnt want her near my character