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[Soma Holiday]

I find it hard to sympathize with someone who hates themselves for being 'too perfect.' That just doesn't make sense to me. I don't trust her and I don't find her story that interesting. Why did her father do this to her anyway? Was she his sex slave of something? Was he just interested in genetic modification? To what end? She said she wasn't the first, just the first he'd kept...Didn't really get that part...



I don't hate her, but I won't be dying to see her in ME3...

[ShadyKat]

I don't hate her, but I did find her very boring as a character.

[Taerda]

Vaenier wrote...

I dont like her for her complete faith in Cerberus, and obvious disdain for my command. Plus she wanted to put a control chip in my head... She didnt want to let Tali take veetor, she wanted to sell legion, she wanted to keep Grunt in the tank. Basically, everything I wanted to do, she told me to do the opposite.
She was annoying and is number 9 on my list, right above Jack.

This is how I feel minus Jack being below her.

Modifié par Taerda, 24 février 2010 - 04:47 .

[Beholderess]

Srau wrote...

She wanted to put a frigging control switch in Shep's head dammit !
She is a control freak, and Shep got his/her head saved only thanks to TiM being the boss *sigh*

Exactly.
Which is more that good enough reason not to trust her.
I've been greatly surprised that she didn't betray Shepard in the end, though it was a pleasant surprise, of course. Never seen it coming)

[Acero Azul]

she was pretty annoying and there were many more characters i rather use

[Sharn01]

I never cared much for Miranda, but I do not hate her, not enough to complain unless someone makes a post like this asking for opinion's I suppose.



Really, I can't see anyone hating any ME2 character's other then Jacob, he is like this huge pile of awfulness that any other ME character becomes a shining beacon of perfection when put in comparison.

[ShadyKat]

Sharn01 wrote...

I never cared much for Miranda, but I do not hate her, not enough to complain unless someone makes a post like this asking for opinion's I suppose.

Really, I can't see anyone hating any ME2 character's other then Jacob, he is like this huge pile of awfulness that any other ME character becomes a shining beacon of perfection when put in comparison.

Why do you hate Jacob? I thought he was a better character than Miranda.

[Inquisitor Recon]

I originally hated her (who didn't) but grew to like her later on. A decent ally in my opinion, and as Jack currently wants to stab me to death I would rather trust her.

[sleepy__head]

Miranda is the devs' bribe to the teenage drooling hot dog crowd in order to cram the Cerberus path down Paragon's Shep's throat. Thats reason enough for me to hate Miranda.  You want me to help you, then in the next breath said you would have put a control chip in my head?  Screw ya.

Modifié par sleepy__head, 24 février 2010 - 05:26 .

[tonnactus]

Not understanding?Miss little Princess have such a cruel daddy and childhood?Compared with the life of Subject Zero she lifed in a paradise.So i would expect some empathy from miranda for jack.But no,this doesnt happen,she continue to act like an as.sh.ole even after her loyality missions.What a dumb and dull character.Its the same for telling her firend that she stole a baby from her father und dont explain him anything.
Have i forgot the reaction after sheaprdt took Garrus as a fireteam leader:"At least he know what he is doing..."
He has more experience and competence than you,b.it.c.h.

Modifié par tonnactus, 24 février 2010 - 04:22 .

[jtav]

The thing I think is missed about Miranda is that she is just as much an abuse survivor as Jack. Psychological abuse is still abuse. Her father treated her as a means to his dynasty and not as a daughter. Given that she wasn't the first attempt he made "just the first he kept" and his seeming preference for only having one daughter at a time, it's reasonable to assume that he was planning to have her killed at the time she ran away. Her treatment of Jack, while not excusable, is entirely consistent with her background.

[tonnactus]

jtav wrote...

The thing I think is missed about Miranda is that she is just as much an abuse survivor as Jack. .

Complete and utter bu.lls.h.it.
Miranda was not raped.Miranda dont have to fight other kids and have to think that others want that she kill them.
She was not tortured.
Subject Zero was abused in both ways(psychic and physical) in a degree not even near comparable with miranda.
And no,her father dont want her to be killed.Otherwise the mercs would attack her on sight on the loality mission.Why should he spare her this time?

Modifié par tonnactus, 24 février 2010 - 04:54 .

[jtav]

Darht Jayder wrote...

tonnactus wrote...

jtav wrote...

The thing I think is missed about Miranda is that she is just as much an abuse survivor as Jack. .

Complete and utter bu.lls.h.it.
Miranda was not raped.Miranda dont have to fight other kids and have to think that others want that she kill them.
She was not tortured.
Subject Zero was abused in both ways(psychic and physical) in a degree not even near comparable with miranda.
And no,her father dont want her to be killed.Otherwise the mercs would attack her on sight on the loality mission.Why should he spare her this time?

Maybe not comparable abuse....but abuse nontheless.  Everyone suffers and deals with abuse in different ways.  But you can't honestly say that she wasn't abused. 

Thank you. The nature and severity of the abuse is not relevent to a person/character's status as an abuse survivor.

[Gabey5]

no issue here.

[Amethyst Deceiver]

how could you possibly not understand?

the law of the internet states:

For every fanboy action, there is an equal and opposite anti-fanboy reaction.

same person, different opinion. has existed since the dawn of humanity.

[Sharn01]

ShadyKat wrote...

Sharn01 wrote...

I never cared much for Miranda, but I do not hate her, not enough to complain unless someone makes a post like this asking for opinion's I suppose.

Really, I can't see anyone hating any ME2 character's other then Jacob, he is like this huge pile of awfulness that any other ME character becomes a shining beacon of perfection when put in comparison.

Why do you hate Jacob? I thought he was a better character than Miranda.

I think people's view of Jacob is split depending on whether or not you play a femShep or maleShep first.

Most femShep players really hate Jacob, because the romance with him is practically forced down your throat any time you so much as talk to him.  It is to the point that many femShep player's, myself included just do not talk to him at all any longer outside of the ship upgrade and loyalty quest.

[RhythmlessNinja]

Miranda's face is mighty handsome.

And I think her father perfected the "perfect ass to body" ratio

But in the end, she's still a b!tch so she loses all her points in my book.

And to the OP, nope never liked cheerleaders, wasnt a math nerd either...I think you would call me the class clown of the bunch & my teachers hated me. :'(

But in the end I came out on top so it's all good :>

Miranda does redeem herself at the VERY end of the game by siding with me when I blow the collector ship up, but hey...far too late.

[jlb524]

Sharn01 wrote...

I think people's view of Jacob is split depending on whether or not you play a femShep or maleShep first.

Most femShep players really hate Jacob, because the romance with him is practically forced down your throat any time you so much as talk to him.  It is to the point that many femShep player's, myself included just do not talk to him at all any longer outside of the ship upgrade and loyalty quest.

This.  I like Jacob, but I don't talk to him (besides to get his loyalty quest and upgrade).  It's not his fault I don't speak with him...I'm just afraid of what will come out of my FemShep's mouth.  

[Trenrade]

She has a boring personality <_<

[Trenrade]

She has a boring personality <_<

[Markinator_123]

I love Miranda and she was my favorite romance interest. The forums' opinion seem to be different than what occurs when I meet actual people who play this game. Generally spearking, plently of people like Tali on the forums, but the people I actually meet likes Miranda. I find that interesting. By the way, I thought Tali's romance was garbage. I like Tali just not as a romance interest.

[Jeremy Winston]

Soma Holiday wrote...

I find it hard to sympathize with someone who hates themselves for being 'too perfect.' That just doesn't make sense to me. I don't trust her and I don't find her story that interesting. Why did her father do this to her anyway? Was she his sex slave of something? Was he just interested in genetic modification? To what end? She said she wasn't the first, just the first he'd kept...Didn't really get that part...

I don't hate her, but I won't be dying to see her in ME3...

But, that's the key to her character.  She's as human as the rest of us, but she was designed to be perfect.  So, she strives to meet those expectations.  Being human, it's impossible to truly be perfect.  She isn't able to even pretend to use physical or mental flaws to explain or excuse mistakes, because it's all perfect.

Thus, her comment of how she can only take credit for her mistakes.  That's a crazy burden to bear.

On top of that, she's presented with Shepard... a non-engineered human that, for the game, actually IS perfect.

Yes... she wasn't tortured.  No, you can't really compare her upbringing to Jack's.  Still, she is in her own version of hell.

I didn't care for her much in the beginning.. the one line that started turning me around was during her loyalty mission. "I never planned on Eclipse.  But they never planned on you." 

Modifié par Jeremy Winston, 24 février 2010 - 06:55 .