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[sonsonthebia07]

dantesfire10 wrote...

helllloooooooo legs, ****** and ass! 8-]

This pretty much overwrites any gibes I have against her "personality". :innocent:

[Jeremy Winston]

Darht Jayder wrote...

Markinator_123 wrote...

I love Miranda and she was my favorite romance interest. The forums' opinion seem to be different than what occurs when I meet actual people who play this game. Generally spearking, plently of people like Tali on the forums, but the people I actually meet likes Miranda. I find that interesting. By the way, I thought Tali's romance was garbage. I like Tali just not as a romance interest.

Tali's romance was garbage because it was total fan service and in my opinion made no sense given the story in ME1.

Please... all the alien romances were fan service.  At least they explained how anyone could 'be' with an Asari.  But.. what in-game rationale allows humans and turians or turians and quarians to be attracted to each other (more than just intellectually).  No hormores, pheromones, etc.

I mean, I love Tali as much as the next player, but she's got claws for hands and feet.  Look at the geth.. they were modeled on the Quarians.

[sonsonthebia07]

Jeremy Winston wrote...

Darht Jayder wrote...

Markinator_123 wrote...

I love Miranda and she was my favorite romance interest. The forums' opinion seem to be different than what occurs when I meet actual people who play this game. Generally spearking, plently of people like Tali on the forums, but the people I actually meet likes Miranda. I find that interesting. By the way, I thought Tali's romance was garbage. I like Tali just not as a romance interest.

Tali's romance was garbage because it was total fan service and in my opinion made no sense given the story in ME1.

Please... all the alien romances were fan service.  At least they explained how anyone could 'be' with an Asari.  But.. what in-game rationale allows humans and turians or turians and quarians to be attracted to each other (more than just intellectually).  No hormores, pheromones, etc.

I mean, I love Tali as much as the next player, but she's got claws for hands and feet.  Look at the geth.. they were modeled on the Quarians.

Claws? They just look like longer fingers to me but you may be right.

[tonnactus]

Darht Jayder wrote...

Maybe not comparable abuse....but abuse nontheless.  Everyone suffers and deals with abuse in different ways.  But you can't honestly say that she wasn't abused. 

And so i expect some empathy from Miranda for Subject Zero.Especially after the loaylity mission.Does that happen?No.The opposite was the case.
 And how people understand her arrogant reaction when shepardt choose garrus as the fireteam leader?

Modifié par tonnactus, 24 février 2010 - 07:14 .

[tonnactus]

jtav wrote...


Thank you. The nature and severity of the abuse is not relevent to a person/character's status as an abuse survivor.

Its not comparable because of the different degree.Its funny that people even argue about that.

[tonnactus]

Darht Jayder wrote...

She admits it was a mistake when talking to Shepard. 

She had to do it when speaking with Subject Zero and didnt let escalate the situation.That i would expect from an intelligent second in command.That shepardt even has to intervene was a joke.

Modifié par tonnactus, 24 février 2010 - 07:24 .

[Markinator_123]

Darht Jayder wrote...

Markinator_123 wrote...

I love Miranda and she was my favorite romance interest. The forums' opinion seem to be different than what occurs when I meet actual people who play this game. Generally spearking, plently of people like Tali on the forums, but the people I actually meet likes Miranda. I find that interesting. By the way, I thought Tali's romance was garbage. I like Tali just not as a romance interest.

Tali's romance was garbage because it was total fan service and in my opinion made no sense given the story in ME1.

I do not play as a FemShep, but I saw her romance interests on youtube. Oh boy! I feel sorry for you FemShep players. For example, when I saw the Garrus romance on youtube, I was like WTF?

[SL22]

We don't hate her, we just don't like her.

Aliens > humans

[sonsonthebia07]

Markinator_123 wrote...

Darht Jayder wrote...

Markinator_123 wrote...

I love Miranda and she was my favorite romance interest. The forums' opinion seem to be different than what occurs when I meet actual people who play this game. Generally spearking, plently of people like Tali on the forums, but the people I actually meet likes Miranda. I find that interesting. By the way, I thought Tali's romance was garbage. I like Tali just not as a romance interest.

Tali's romance was garbage because it was total fan service and in my opinion made no sense given the story in ME1.

I do not play as a FemShep, but I saw her romance interests on youtube. Oh boy! I feel sorry for you FemShep players. For example, when I saw the Garrus romance on youtube, I was like WTF?

I play both, and found the Garrus romance to be very amusing.

[jtav]

tonnactus wrote...

jtav wrote...


Thank you. The nature and severity of the abuse is not relevent to a person/character's status as an abuse survivor.

Its not comparable because of the different degree.Its funny that people even argue about that.

And, once again, the difference in degree has nothing to do with whether someone was abused. Jack was physically, psychologically, and sexually abused. Miranda was psychologically abused. Both have equal claim to the status of abuse survivor because both were abused.

[shinobi602]

I don't understand why OP can't deal with it? I mean there will always be some people who won't like a certain character, that goes for every character. Miri's my favorite character, but of course there will be people who don't really like her.



No offense, but who cares really?

[Volourn]

Miranda is awesome. One of BIO's best npcs. And, no, she enevr comes a cross as an 'ice queen'. She's simply very serious about her job. In fact, she's pretty friendly though all business at the beginning which is the way it should be.



Also, she does show cracks in her relationship with Cerberus throughoutt he game. her finally telling TIM to kiss off at the end, was 100% logical.



And, oh, she does have sympathy for Jack; but some of the sympathy is muted because jack is such a **** who is scummy evil and enjoys causing pain to others just to make her feel better.



btw, Having a bad childhood doesn't excuse commitinjg evil deeds. Like a character on one of my fave tv shows said recently,"Pretty much everyone in prison has some sort of woe as me childhood tale."



As we also know that musot spousal/child abusers were abused or witnesses of abuse when they were children. That doesn't excuse their behaviour or allow them to behave badly.



Anyways, back to Miranda, she good people. Unlike the evil maschoistic Jack.



Jack whines about being a product of experiment but guess what? So is Miranda. She doesn't even have a real mother.

[shinobi602]

jtav wrote...


And, once again, the difference in degree has nothing to do with whether someone was abused. Jack was physically, psychologically, and sexually abused. Miranda was psychologically abused. Both have equal claim to the status of abuse survivor because both were abused.

Her father also did try to kill her when she was escaping.

[Nozybidaj]

jtav wrote...
 Miranda was psychologically abused. Both have equal claim to the status of abuse survivor because both were abused.

She was genetically designed to be perfect, born into a life of wealth and power, given everything she ever wanted including the best training and education money could buy.

Is there some where we can go to sign up for that kind of "psychological abuse"?

[Markinator_123]

Volourn wrote...

Miranda is awesome. One of BIO's best npcs. And, no, she enevr comes a cross as an 'ice queen'. She's simply very serious about her job. In fact, she's pretty friendly though all business at the beginning which is the way it should be.

Also, she does show cracks in her relationship with Cerberus throughoutt he game. her finally telling TIM to kiss off at the end, was 100% logical.

And, oh, she does have sympathy for Jack; but some of the sympathy is muted because jack is such a **** who is scummy evil and enjoys causing pain to others just to make her feel better.

btw, Having a bad childhood doesn't excuse commitinjg evil deeds. Like a character on one of my fave tv shows said recently,"Pretty much everyone in prison has some sort of woe as me childhood tale."

As we also know that musot spousal/child abusers were abused or witnesses of abuse when they were children. That doesn't excuse their behaviour or allow them to behave badly.

Anyways, back to Miranda, she good people. Unlike the evil maschoistic Jack.

Jack whines about being a product of experiment but guess what? So is Miranda. She doesn't even have a real mother.

Great post!

[Nozybidaj]

Volourn wrote...

btw, Having a bad childhood doesn't excuse commitinjg evil deeds. Like a character on one of my fave tv shows said recently,"Pretty much everyone in prison has some sort of woe as me childhood tale."

Because going to work for an evil terrorist organization is totally doing something good with your life, am i rite?

[IoCaster]

She's a toxic asset. My canon Shep is all about the mission. He doesn't fraternize, no romance and totally focused on getting the job done. Miranda is a constant irritant in that she believes that she is fully capable of stepping into my role when it's clear that she isn't. 

"The IM told us that you're in command" - OK

"Shepard you take point." - STFU, that's my decision to make.

"Take the Quarian and call for pickup" - STFU, that's my decision to make.

"Jack, I'm second in command to Shepard..." - STFU, that's my decision to make.

"Shepard I'm impressed, you really seem to know what you're doing." - STFU, I took out the Thorian, Saren, Sovereign, saved/killed off the Rachni, destroyed the base on Virmire, killed off a crapload of Geth, Mercs and Cerberus goons and much more. What the hell have you done that would compare favorably to any of that?

"The Illusive Man wouldn't intentionally send us into a trap." - STFU, you're wrong and that's exactly what he did do.

"I'll lead the second team..." STFU, that's my decision to make.

"I could do it. Any biotic could." - STFU, you're absolutely wrong again and I'm sick of the constant interference.

"Well we've done good so far. EDI what's our next move?" - STFU!!!!

And so on, ad infinitum, ad nauseum. I don't know if it was an intentional attempt by the Bioware writers to alienate some people or just a basic misunderstanding of military discipline and chain of command. The end result for me was that I didn't want her on my team. I went to great lengths to kill her off and dead she'll remain on any of my ME3 imports. On a character or personal level I didn't care to talk to her and generally skip her loyalty mission. Good riddance to bad character.

[Cypher0020]

I like Miranda or Miri as Niket called her.



I figured she'd be cocky, arrogant when I spoke to her on the SR2 but I liked how she was anything but and hated herself for being created to be perfect



Once she explained about her sister, my femshep couldn't get to Ilium fast enough- really sucked I couldn't take the fight to Mr. Lawson personally



When the suicide run came, I was oddly touched tha Miri saluted my Femshep



I trusted her to lead one of the fireteams, and together we got everyone and crew out



Really like the random dialgue when NPC's are like don't worry lawson and shepard are on the case!