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[Zhaosen]

http://fury.com/2010...ames-dice-2010/

...wow....just...wow....IT ALL MAKES SENSE! 

[Seagloom]

I can't believe I watched that whole thing. It was an interesting lecture. Some of his ideas made sense. I sincerely hope none of his distant future predictions come true though. That isn't a world I'd want to live in, seriously. It sounds terrifying to me.

[AngryFrozenWater]

Zhaosen... I don't want to live in such a world.

My sig says enough.

Modifié par AngryFrozenWater, 23 février 2010 - 10:46 .

[Baracuda6977]

that point system was creepy

[Godak]

I...just...wow!



I need to go cry.

[Giant ambush beetle]

I'd be lying if I say I am looking forward to the future, the point system would turn the whole world into a freaking game and would manipulate even the strongest minds. 

[Fexelea]

Interesting talk however there is a lot of misinformation. He is picking and chosing "reality" as a connection word, when half of the things he describes are "social". He also completely loses the plot around 15 minutes in.

Technology is not an allmighty steamroller. It might seem like all of this is possible, but that is forgetting that 95% of the world lives in poverty and has no access to it, and those countries are still in industralization phase, which means they are much more than 20 years away from Minority Report.

It's a good talk, but has nothing new... the stuff he describes is as mindblowing now as it was when you watched it in Startrek, we are still nowhere near it.

[DragonDefender]

I watched it and was like WOW could this happen possibly, do I want to be alive when it happens def. not.

[Baracuda6977]

MrHimuraChan wrote...

Finally watched (wasn't loading for some reason)

Thank goodness i'm a caveman with no facebook    (-500.000 points)

me too! (-500.000 points)

HI FIVE! (+10.000 points)

[Fexelea]

^lol

I hate facebook. You guys know that their policy means they OWN your pictures and whatever information you post right? And they are free to share it with their "partners"

[Giant ambush beetle]

I was never too fond of just throwing my whole life into the internets to share it with people I have never seen or met before. No facebook for me.



But maybe some day in the future we'll be ordered have one. Like a report to help government watching our activities. If you have been a bad boy you'll get a trip to the cryo prison.Yes you will!

[Maria Caliban]

I'm at 15 minutes and my mind has yet to be blown.

'People want authenticity!' Yes, we figured that out in the 90s when white, suburban males bought 80% of rap music, and in the 70s when people wanted to get ‘back to nature.’ People want authenticity, except when they go back to not wanting it.

‘There will be no grand technological conversance.’ Outside of science fiction (tricorder, onmi-tool), no one seems to think that the future holds one device that everyone uses for everything.

[Jonp382]

LOL, at first he had something interesting than it just got ridiculous. Especially in the last 6-7 minutes!

+10 for high five
+10 for sleep
+10 for pepsi in sleep

Modifié par Jonp382, 24 février 2010 - 01:12 .

[Fexelea]

Boycott facebook. Do it for humanity.

[Maria Caliban]

I find it interesting that after saying that there will be no 'grand technological conversance,' his vision of the future involves a grand technological conversance. My cornflakes will connect to my facebook? And everyone else's breakfast cereal connects to the same web site? It is more likely that my cornflakes have a code in the box top I can enter into a Kellogg’s MyDiet website.

The government hands out bonus points for using the bus? Sure, all you need to do it have every federal, state, and local municipality use a nationwide system that every bus in American is fitted with. Never mind that in inner cities where this system is most useful, public transport receives less per capita than suburbia, and they have buses dating from the 1970s.

"The government" can't even create a universal system when it comes to voting, drivers licenses, or schooling, but they'll make one for public transportation.

His vision depends on grand unification on technological, social, and even legal levels despite the fact that he’s already observed that systems splinter over time.

[Fexelea]

^ Great point Maria.

Indeed he is envisioning a future basing only on technology improvements and forgetting about the operational side of things, which would be almost impossible. It's the same about the whole "new world order" thing. How likely is there is any such conspiracy, if people in one party in one country cannot seem to organize themselves properly!



Society is a tradeoff of freedoms for security. He is just blowing it out of proportion by thinking that marketers would take advantage of any way to get at the consumer, forgetting that the marketer is very aware of not wanting to be targeted like that, and sees him/herself above the crowd: nobody would encourage a marketing ploy that makes you yourself a slave to it. Look at the people who work at M$ and check their achievement score, that sums it up.

[Maria Caliban]

Yeah, he’s definitely coming at this as a geek envisioning a grand, new future. He sees something doing wonderfully in a number of separate microcosms and extrapolates that to a single, massive macrocosm.

Not only does this neglect his own observations, but also consumer habits. Yes, this technology might end up on every item I own, but will I use it or pay attention to it?

Take the point system he talks about. When I go to starbucks, subway, my cleaners, etc, they all give me this piece of paper with that I get to punch out whenever I come in and after X many punches I get a free Y. I get them from everywhere, stick them in my pocket, and they’re usually forgotten the next time I come in.

My mother’s keychains is covered with a dozen of those little scanning bar things. You know, like a ‘blockbuster card’ and a ‘alberson’s card.’ The majority of them she never uses.

Every day, my e-mail and my mailbox gets marketing from dozens of different sources. It all ends up in the trash.

How many people signed up for a BioWare Social Network account? How many people use it on a daily basis? How many used it just to download stuff for their game, and promptly forgot about it once they uninstalled the game?

[Fexelea]

Indeed.



Also he is oblivious to the fact that loyalty rewards become innefective when everyone is doing them. If every supermarket gives you points, then you don't need to shop at only one. Then the supermarket has to offer you better rewards than the other supermarket, which means more costs, which becomes a never ending cold-war effect, aka a promotional bubble. Then it bursts, when people realize that you shop in the supermarket that is more convenient, not the one with the best useless reward! @.@ Shocker. lol

[Godak]

What's scary is that he thought that evrything he suggest is actually possible...He's completely off his rocker!



His entire shtick operates off of the premise that everyone likes the MMO "You do some menial task and get rewarded with numbers!" gimmick. Honestly, tooth brush points?



Tooth. Brush. Points?

[Jae Onasi]

Did someone forget to tell him there's an on/off switch on the computer? He needs to exercise the 'off' position more frequently.

[Chained_Creator]

As I sit here watching this video, I am stuck wondering when the last time this guy had contact with reality (be it economic or otherwise).