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[Ryzaki]

Collider wrote...

Having gay and lesbian romance options to appease the perverted fantasies of fangirls and fanboys respectively is rather absurd.

^This sooo much.

Talimance and Garrus mance as well.

Hell we really could do with either 1. a canon LI [Kaidan for FemShep, Liara or Ashley for M!Shep and that's it for the whole trilogy] for Shep or 2. No romances at all.

Because yeah. This...ugh. Sooo many arguments that wouldn't have existed.

[Collider]

Seems like you are misinterpreting me. I am not saying that Bioware should have only have a few options per gender. I am prioritizing the wishes of actual gays and lesbians over heterosexual females and heterosexual males in regards to same sex romance options.

Modifié par Collider, 24 février 2010 - 10:33 .

[didymos1120]

Collider wrote...

Having gay and lesbian romance options to appease the perverted fantasies of fangirls and fanboys respectively is rather absurd.

Well, at least it'd be equally absurd. 

[Ryzaki]

Collider wrote...

Seems like you are misinterpreting me. I am not saying that Bioware should have only one option per gender. I am prioritizing the wishes of actual gays and lesbians over heterosexual females and heterosexual males in regards to same sex romance options.

Oh no I understood that. I just wish there was only one bloody canon LI. (Makes things simplier) or no LIs at all (might have a better combat system, more resources can go into other things).

Its not like the ME romances are amazingly deep anyways. <_<

[didymos1120]

Habelo wrote...
the ****? what kind of pervert jacks of to pixles? are u ****ing serious mate? do you honestly feel the need to do that? man man man

People who view porn on any computer ever?  'Cause you know little people don't live in those monitors, right? 

[Ryzaki]

didymos1120 wrote...

Habelo wrote...
the ****? what kind of pervert jacks of to pixles? are u ****ing serious mate? do you honestly feel the need to do that? man man man

People who view porn on any computer ever?  'Cause you know little people don't live in those monitors, right? 

Oh. Ownage.

Nice one. Give me a virtual high five for that.

[FlyinElk212]

Crysis I wrote...

threads like this ruin forums

......YOU ruin forums!!! AND you're stupid!!!!!!!

[Collider]

Ryzaki wrote...
Oh no I understood that. I just wish there was only one bloody canon LI. (Makes things simplier) or no LIs at all (might have a better combat system, more resources can go into other things).

I don't understand the significance of having a canon LI. Do you mean canon as forced upon the player, like Yuna is forced upon Tidus in FFX? Or do you mean canon as in; if Bioware had to make a canon story for Shepard, he/she would have this romance partner?

Its not like the ME romances are amazingly deep anyways. <_<

Yet they appear to be among the best - at least among the games that allows the player to choose between romance options. Then again, I've never played any games of any company other than Bioware that have this, but it seems to be true.

[Ryzaki]

Collider wrote...


I don't understand the significance of having a canon LI. Do you mean canon as forced upon the player, like Yuna is forced upon Tidus in FFX? Or do you mean canon as in; if Bioware had to make a canon story for Shepard, he/she would have this romance partner?

Forced like Yuna on Tidus. (Or you have the option of having no one at all).

Yet they appear to be among the best - at least among the games that allows the player to choose between romance options. Then again, I've never played any games of any company other than Bioware that have this, but it seems to be true.

Not really I found DA to be far better. And KOTOR really. Heck Persona 3 with Aigis has a deeper love story to me (then again there's a lot of wangst to be had in some of those relationships so it might just be personal taste.) 
And speaking of Yuna and Tidus...them too.

Though yeah BioWare is one of the only companies that have optional LIs.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 24 février 2010 - 10:40 .

[Collider]

Ryzaki wrote...
Forced like Yuna on Tidus. (Or you have the option of having no one at all).

I don't share your sentiment. I like having options, it fits perfectly with the entire theme of the series, which is choice. Though, I would still play Mass Effect regardless even without romance, I am too enamored with dialogue choices not to. It also helps that the gameplay and story is stellar as well.

Ryzaki wrote...
Not really I found DA to be far better. And KOTOR really.

To
be honest I didn't find the DA ones to any notable amount better, but
it is a matter of opinion. I never did the KOTOR romances so I wouldn't
know about that in particular. Fortunately, both of which are Bioware
games. Aside from the intentionally sidelined Liara, Ashley, and Kaidan, Mass Effect 3 will be the first time that - at least hopefully -that romance truly carry over to another game. Here's hoping that the romances develop more deeply, possibly with those powerful three words.

[Ryzaki]

Collider wrote...

I don't share your sentiment. I like having options, it fits perfectly with the entire theme of the series, which is choice. Though, I would still play Mass Effect regardless even without romance, I am too enamored with dialogue choices not to. It also helps that the gameplay and story is stellar as well.

*shrugs* Different strokes for different folks.

To
be honest I didn't find the DA ones to any notable amount better, but
it is a matter of opinion. I never did the KOTOR romances so I wouldn't
know about that in particular. Fortunately, both of which are Bioware
games. Aside from the intentionally sidelined Liara, Ashley, and Kaidan, Mass Effect 3 will be the first time that - at least hopefully -that romance truly carry over to another game. Here's hoping that the romances develop more deeply, possibly with those powerful three words.

Yep let's hope.

I do hope BioWare at least records the MM dialogue with Kaidan again. It was nice of them to do it for the second game.
<3

[danman2424]

Ryzaki wrote...


Yep let's hope.

I do hope BioWare at least records the MM dialogue with Kaidan again. It was nice of them to do it for the second game.
<3

Huh?

[jbadm04]

Haasth wrote...

It is likely that this is mainly due to EA's oversight, lack of time or even a fear of the public's opinion. If it is the latter it is rather weak... They also dismissed the claim that Asari and female Shepard is a lesbian relationship... Which would suggest that they indeed do not like the public to think that they have homosexual relationships in Mass Effect...


 

Here is a lot of talking about lesbian love and a lot of people claim Liara/FemShep is lesbian love, but it is not, just like EA/BW says. The asari are asexual, they are neither male or female. They may look female to us, but they are not. I know an asexual girl in RL, she looks like a girl, her voice is of a girl, she even speaks and acts like a girl (well I gues its because she was taught to be one), but in the end, she is no female. "She" (maybe I should rather says it ...) couldnt care less for physical romance, male, female? Doesnt matter, either is good. And do not mix up asexual with bi... Kelly Chambers is "bi" and some sort of distraction for both fem and male Shep. There is no homosexual love/romance in ME or ME2, but in DAO.

[Collider]

Due to the fact that Liara's and Kelly's physical gender is female, there are same sex romances in ME. The Asari in the codex are said to be an all-female race. I honestly have NO comment about you meeting an "asexual" girl in real life. My advice is to look up what asexual really means.

Modifié par Collider, 24 février 2010 - 11:10 .

[Ryzaki]

danman2424 wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...


Yep let's hope.

I do hope BioWare at least records the MM dialogue with Kaidan again. It was nice of them to do it for the second game.
<3

Huh?

Exactly what I said.

There is audio files for  the M!Shep x Kaidan relationship in ME2.

[Habelo]

didymos1120 wrote...

Habelo wrote...
the ****? what kind of pervert jacks of to pixles? are u ****ing serious mate? do you honestly feel the need to do that? man man man

People who view porn on any computer ever?  'Cause you know little people don't live in those monitors, right? 

**** did i just get trolled? think you can troll the master and get away with it?

hmm. Well lets put it this way, there is a difference between something made with pixels and something that pixels try to replicate. The first is the one i meant ofc.

[didymos1120]

jbadm04 wrote...
 The asari are asexual, they are neither male or female.

Let's open up our Codex, children:  "An all-female race, the Asari reproduce through a form of parthenogenesis." 

And now, a little math:

Femshep = Girl
Liara = Girl
Femshep on Liara = Girl on Girl
Q.E.D.

Modifié par didymos1120, 24 février 2010 - 11:30 .

[addiction21]

Ryzaki wrote...

Its not like the ME romances are amazingly deep anyways. <_<

We have a winner. Oh kay, time to shut the internet down.

[didymos1120]

Collider wrote...

My advice is to look up what asexual really means.

OK, well, technically, parthenogenesis is a mode of asexual reproduction, and that is how the Asari roll.  Here's the catch, though: it's defined as occurring specifically in female organisms.  So, yeah: the Asari are chicks, no matter how you try to parse it.

[Collider]

didymos1120 wrote...

Collider wrote...

My advice is to look up what asexual really means.

OK, well, technically, parthenogenesis is a mode of asexual reproduction, and that is how the Asari roll.  Here's the catch, though: it's defined as occurring specifically in female organisms.  So, yeah: the Asari are chicks, no matter how you try to parse it.

Yea. But he said that he meant an asexual girl which either means
a) A girl who has little to no sexual attractions or feelings. Nothing special about this in context to the discussion.
A girl who can reproduce asexually. Not possible.

[Ninja Mage]

To reiterate my point, I do not need a graphic sex scene.I just want a gay ROMANCE in the game, like a kiss or a hug. To show that shepard is indeed gay. Anything else can be fade to black, I just want the romantic dialogue in there

[Ryzaki]

addiction21 wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Its not like the ME romances are amazingly deep anyways. <_<

We have a winner. Oh kay, time to shut the internet down.

Are you telling me the ME romances are deep? Really? 

[didymos1120]

Collider wrote...
Yea. But he said that he meant an asexual girl which either means
a) A girl who has little to no sexual attractions or feelings. Nothing special about this in context to the discussion.
A girl who can reproduce asexually. Not possible.

Ah, sorry.  I'd overlooked the "I know an asexual girl in RL" thing.  Yeah, a dictionary is definitely in order.

[Habelo]

Ninja Mage wrote...


To reiterate my point, I do not need a graphic sex scene.I just want a gay ROMANCE in the game, like a kiss or a hug. To show that shepard is indeed gay. Anything else can be fade to black, I just want the romantic dialogue in there

glad that you are the minority. We normal ppl are disgusted by this type of ritual.

[Creature 1]

Collider wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Collider wrote...

My advice is to look up what asexual really means.

OK, well, technically, parthenogenesis is a mode of asexual reproduction, and that is how the Asari roll.  Here's the catch, though: it's defined as occurring specifically in female organisms.  So, yeah: the Asari are chicks, no matter how you try to parse it.

Yea. But he said that he meant an asexual girl which either means
a) A girl who has little to no sexual attractions or feelings. Nothing special about this in context to the discussion.
A girl who can reproduce asexually. Not possible.

Especially since a guy who is attracted to the girl with no sexual interest would still be straight, and a girl who is attracted to the girl with no sexual interest would still be lesbian (or at least bi). 

FemShep is lesbian or bi if she's involved in a romantic relationship with an Asari.