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Ryzaki wrote...

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Yep let's hope.

I do hope BioWare at least records the MM dialogue with Kaidan again. It was nice of them to do it for the second game.
<3

Huh?


Exactly what I said. :kissing:

There is audio files for  the M!Shep x Kaidan relationship in ME2.

That is not the case. Nor was it the case for the first. I believe I already got into this with you.

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danman2424 wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

danman2424 wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...


Yep let's hope.

I do hope BioWare at least records the MM dialogue with Kaidan again. It was nice of them to do it for the second game.
<3

Huh?


Exactly what I said. :kissing:

There is audio files for  the M!Shep x Kaidan relationship in ME2.

That is not the case. Nor was it the case for the first. I believe I already got into this with you.


You being in denial? Yup we've gone over that already. :D

Hope you enjoy your stay! :wizard:

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Ryzaki wrote...

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Its not like the ME romances are amazingly deep anyways. <_<


We have a winner. Oh kay, time to shut the internet down.



Are you telling me the ME romances are deep? Really? :huh:


Sorry I do not mean to come off as such a sarcastic ass that happens sometimes.

Every time I an reading, posting, or making a bad waffle joke in one of the "romance" related threads I have this thought nagging at the back of my brain. It is "Why do you even bother? It is not like they are anything of substance"
Now I understand somebody will want to yell at me, so let me elaborate a little. The characters are great and very well written. There are some lovable characters with good dialogue but the romances pretty much go: Flirt, run a mission, flirt, run a mission, flirt, go past the point of not return (Illos suicide mission) get a cutscene and thats it.

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addiction21 wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

addiction21 wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Its not like the ME romances are amazingly deep anyways. <_<


We have a winner. Oh kay, time to shut the internet down.



Are you telling me the ME romances are deep? Really? :huh:


Sorry I do not mean to come off as such a sarcastic ass that happens sometimes.

Every time I an reading, posting, or making a bad waffle joke in one of the "romance" related threads I have this thought nagging at the back of my brain. It is "Why do you even bother? It is not like they are anything of substance"
Now I understand somebody will want to yell at me, so let me elaborate a little. The characters are great and very well written. There are some lovable characters with good dialogue but the romances pretty much go: Flirt, run a mission, flirt, run a mission, flirt, go past the point of not return (Illos suicide mission) get a cutscene and thats it.


Oh I'm in total agreement with this. Which is why the whole "OMG Shep can't be gay!!!" bugs me. Its not like the romance is taking up a large portion of screentime anyways. <_<

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Ryzaki wrote...

danman2424 wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

danman2424 wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...


Yep let's hope.

I do hope BioWare at least records the MM dialogue with Kaidan again. It was nice of them to do it for the second game.
<3

Huh?


Exactly what I said. :kissing:

There is audio files for  the M!Shep x Kaidan relationship in ME2.

That is not the case. Nor was it the case for the first. I believe I already got into this with you.


You being in denial? Yup we've gone over that already. :D

Hope you enjoy your stay! :wizard:

Lol you were the one that sent me male Shepard's Ashley romance dialogue with "Kaidan" dubbed in at the end claiming it was left over gay romance dialogue. I'm not the one in denial.

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addiction21 wrote...
Sorry I do not mean to come off as such a sarcastic ass that happens sometimes.

Every time I an reading, posting, or making a bad waffle joke in one of the "romance" related threads I have this thought nagging at the back of my brain. It is "Why do you even bother? It is not like they are anything of substance"


Basically, for most who gripe and grouse, it's the principle of the thing, and more about the behavior of the corporation.  I'm sure some really do think the game is of earth-shattering significance, and the (rather anemic) romances too, but there're always obsessives in fandoms, and they're usually quite few (even if they do make a lot of noise and sometimes seem to dominate).


ETA: Also, plain fact is, representation in the media matters, and also the manner of depiction once Group X is represented.  For my part, I don't like double-standards in general, and the "justifications" ring very hollow, and I really dislike those sort of, well, disingenuous assertions.  It's not affecting me as a player, as an M/M romance holds no interest for me (not that I wouldn't check it out on YouTube for the hell of it). I just plain don't like the way its being handled, and think they could easily put that cup of tea on the menu without "compromising their art" or whatever.

Modifié par didymos1120, 25 février 2010 - 12:26 .


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danman2424 wrote...

Lol you were the one that sent me male Shepard's Ashley romance dialogue with "Kaidan" dubbed in at the end claiming it was left over gay romance dialogue. I'm not the one in denial.


Once again. Enjoy your stay :lol:

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To reiterate my point, I do not need a graphic sex scene.I just want a gay ROMANCE in the game, like a kiss or a hug. To show that shepard is indeed gay. Anything else can be fade to black, I just want the romantic dialogue in there


glad that you are the minority. We normal ppl are disgusted by this type of ritual.



I'm not the minority jackass. You are incredibly dense. Many people want this option, sorry to burst your little bigoted bubble. Go screw your horse looking wife HEE HAW

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danman2424 wrote...
Lol you were the one that sent me male Shepard's Ashley romance dialogue with "Kaidan" dubbed in at the end claiming it was left over gay romance dialogue. I'm not the one in denial.

Those hackers!  So clever! 

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The gay romance with Kaidan in ME1 was definitely voiced, though not necessarily completely (some of the lines are not voiced even if you change gender flags). But I haven't seen any evidence that lines were recorded for a gay romance with Kaidan in ME2.

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Collider wrote...

The gay romance with Kaidan in ME1 was definitely voiced, though not necessarily completely (some of the lines are not voiced even if you change gender flags). But I haven't seen any evidence that lines were recorded for a gay romance with Kaidan in ME2.


It'll only activate if you import a save with an active M!Shep x Kaidan romance apparently.

Here

Jeez...this damn link just refuses to work. :pinched:

Modifié par Ryzaki, 25 février 2010 - 12:24 .


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Creature 1 wrote...

danman2424 wrote...
Lol you were the one that sent me male Shepard's Ashley romance dialogue with "Kaidan" dubbed in at the end claiming it was left over gay romance dialogue. I'm not the one in denial.

Those hackers!  So clever! 

lol the things people will do. See how comical that mod comes off? That's exactly what Bioware wants to avoid with Shepard and turning his character into a joke.

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danman2424 wrote...

Creature 1 wrote...

danman2424 wrote...
Lol you were the one that sent me male Shepard's Ashley romance dialogue with "Kaidan" dubbed in at the end claiming it was left over gay romance dialogue. I'm not the one in denial.

Those hackers!  So clever! 

lol the things people will do. See how comical that mod comes off? That's exactly what Bioware wants to avoid with Shepard and turning his character into a joke.


Shorter danman2424: LOL, FAGS!

Modifié par didymos1120, 25 février 2010 - 12:33 .


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Funny to think that even that far in the future, homosexuality is still so taboo to so many. : D

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Good grief.

Image IPB

And for some much needed cuteness <3

Image IPB


Anyone who has ever had a kitten will know how hilarious the second picture is. And how cute. :wub:

Got herself stuck on top of the fridge and ended up bawling like a baby.

Still don't know how the heck she even managed to get up there either. :?

Modifié par Ryzaki, 25 février 2010 - 12:37 .


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lol did he call us ****S? someone report him

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Ninja Mage wrote...

lol did he call us ****S? someone report him


No, I was mocking danman.  It's all his post amounted to.

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oh ok nevermind

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Those kitties are cute

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didymos1120 wrote...

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 The asari are asexual, they are neither male or female.


Let's open up our Codex, children:  "An all-female race, the Asari reproduce through a form of parthenogenesis." 



you should listen to your dialogues rather then just quoting the codex. As far as I remember Liara says it and afterwards you get the "all female" codex entry. My understanding: the codex is an all-human-made "encyclopedia" writen by humans with human insights. Probably they cant imagine a race with just one gender and refer to the asari as "all famale" because they have feminine (to human standards) characteristics. About parthenogenesis, Liara says, through the mind melding, one part of the couple (lets says female) receives genetic variations from the partner (lets says male-part).

As to asexual.... in my native-language this word have 3 meanings. Sorry if my use of the word is confusing.

So, and maybe Im wrong and "asexual" was never said. Maybe not at all, maybe not by Liara. But Im not in the mood of replaying ME and dont even have that time anytime soon. On the other hand, EA/BW claiming there is no lesbian love seems to make my opinion valid, to quote (to some degree) Mordin: have no proof, but fits evidence.

Lets just drop it :)

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Ninja Mage wrote...

Those kitties are cute


Yep.

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didymos1120 wrote...

danman2424 wrote...

Creature 1 wrote...

danman2424 wrote...
Lol you were the one that sent me male Shepard's Ashley romance dialogue with "Kaidan" dubbed in at the end claiming it was left over gay romance dialogue. I'm not the one in denial.

Those hackers!  So clever! 

lol the things people will do. See how comical that mod comes off? That's exactly what Bioware wants to avoid with Shepard and turning his character into a joke.


Shorter danman2424: LOL, FAGS!

The depiction of Shepard engaging in that act is pretty comical. That is just so far removed from the context of the game and the character that it does come off as a joke.

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jbadm04 wrote...
About parthenogenesis, Liara says, through the mind melding, one part of the couple (lets says female) receives genetic variations from the partner (lets says male-part).


Umm, yeah, but dialogue makes it clear that's kind of Asari urban legend.  No genetic material is ever exchanged.  It's more a mechanism for inducing mutations, and it's still parthenogenesis.  You can actually find analogues in real-life organisms:

An interesting aspect to reproduction in these asexual lizards is that mating behaviors are still seen, although the populations are all female. One female plays the role played by the male in closely related species, and mounts the female that is about to lay eggs. This behaviour is due to the hormonal cycles of the females, which cause them to behave like males shortly after laying eggs, when levels of progesterone are high, and to take the female role in mating before laying eggs, when estrogen dominates. Lizards who act out the courtship ritual have greater fecundity than those kept in isolation, due to the increase in hormones that accompanies the mounting. So, although the populations lack males, they still require sexual behavioral stimuli for maximum reproductive success.


But, sure, OK, I'll skip the other stuff and drop the topic. 

Modifié par didymos1120, 25 février 2010 - 01:13 .


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danman2424 wrote...
The depiction of Shepard engaging in that act is pretty comical. That is just so far removed from the context of the game and the character that it does come off as a joke.


If I were still 12, I might agree with you.  I got over that.

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It comes off as a joke out of context. If you had spent ME one trying to romance Kaidan, though, I wager it would have a different effect on you as a player.