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#851
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Glad they didn't see heavy rain yet, you actually have sex lol

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I've been away too long - Endurance, you have a FFTL banner :)



*smooch*



(I'm hoping Heavy Rain is waiting for me at home when I get there later - it was dispatched by Amazon yesterday.)

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Sylwia94 wrote...

Hello, I decided to write this thread because I feel so pissed off by BioWare statement about FemShepard and MaleShepard. I'm heterosexual girl and I can understand when game does not include homosexual romances but I totally can't understand it, when game includes lesbian romances but does not include gay romances.

So BioWare please tell me one good reason why you doing that.  Just please don't tell me "Shepard is a pre-defined characte" because it's make no sense when I even can choose his sex and as FemShepard I can shoose her sexual orientation. I can't understand why the hell i can't choose sexual orientation of male Shepard when i can choose sexual orientation of female Shepard? I just want to know that, because that is one of very few things I totally can't understand.

For me as a heterosexual girl, "boy-to-boy action" is far more acceptable and pleasant to the eye than "girl-on-girl", what is saying simple, disgusting for me. And by this reason I feel totaly ignoring by BioWare, same as many girl gamers, according to posts here and on other forums. As I said, it's not a problem when game does not include same sex romances but if game includes lesbian romances but does not include gay romance, it's  just ignoring of girls(and other ppls but they said it in another threads) and it's shows you only worried about boys, and not this normal boys but that adolescent jerks, too worried about their sexuality to see two boys making out.  

Your games(ME and ME2) are often refered as candidates to best games ever so please make it perfect in all ways. The one of main adventago os MEs is that you can direct your character anyway you want, but unfortunately, this applies only to female character. I just simply wondering why there is a range on sexualities possible for a female character, a male character can be only heterosexual. I just can't understand this, so please BioWare make it clear why you did it and, what is more important fix it and let us, girls enjoy the full adventages of this game too!

I can understand your currently policy if it's be thing than only few ppls want but after so much popular threads here(and on other sites too) and hundreds of ppls supporting it your policy of ignoring us and closing thread is just dissapointing. Bit like unintelligible restrictions restrictions in MEs after perfect Dragon Age where you don't discriminating girls. I think for such a big company policy like this is really unsuitable so please read this thread  and finally satisfy us!

To ppls reading this thread i just want say - i know there was been many threads like this before but none of them present the matter like this. And i know it's looks like it's be supossed to be letter to BioWare, not thread but support of ppls are important and since last thread were deleted we don't have thread like this(or i've missed it?sorry if someone else made thread like this) so I post it here, also for more ppls can read what I and most girl(according to girl's posts in much sites and my friends). And trolls please keep out, if you are too much worried about your sexuality to see two guys making out just don't do it, like in RL where you can do it but you don't doin, right? You have your lesbians so let us fight for same adventages too, pretty please, i don't wan Stanley Woo to have next pretext to close our thread and ignore us...  It's all what I've have to say, I think, so cya, i hope for support.



I agree...completly....

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Endurance_117 wrote...

Glad they didn't see heavy rain yet, you actually have sex lol


OMG you've joined the dark side!!!!

Have a cookie! :wizard:

What type do you want? Peanutbutter or chocolate chip? Or sugar cookies. Mmmm. They're all good. ^_^

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OP, I completely agree. Good post!

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Truth of the matter is, if there was male gay action in ME they wouldnt sell many copies cause MOST people (myself included) are repulsed by the idea. Sorry sausage lovers...

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SirWalliss wrote...

Truth of the matter is, if there was male gay action in ME they wouldnt sell many copies cause MOST people (myself included) are repulsed by the idea. Sorry sausage lovers...


You really think a majority of people wouldn't buy ME if it had an optional gay romance it it? :huh:

You're joking right? 

Because I say its about the same amount of those who wouldn't buy it as those who would just for the gay romance.

I hate to break this to you but while you are in the majority of being uncomfortable with it you are in the minority of allowing said discomfort to stop you from purchasing the game.

Sorry.

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Stop trying to Gayify the video game industry (and the rest of the world for that matter)! Go start a gay pep rally or somthing somewhere else you liberal scum!

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SirWalliss wrote...

Stop trying to Gayify the video game industry (and the rest of the world for that matter)! Go start a gay pep rally or somthing somewhere else you liberal scum!


Its hard to detect sarcasm over the interwebs.

And no one's trying to gayify anything. Twould be optional. You have an option to throw your computer out the nearest window or off the nearest building as well. No one would force it on you. :? Unless you lack the mental ability to not do something you don't want to do...in which case I recommend professional help. :unsure: And wonder how you're still alive. :mellow:

Modifié par Ryzaki, 25 février 2010 - 09:08 .


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Ryzaki wrote...

SirWalliss wrote...

Truth of the matter is, if there was male gay action in ME they wouldnt sell many copies cause MOST people (myself included) are repulsed by the idea. Sorry sausage lovers...


You really think a majority of people wouldn't buy ME if it had an optional gay romance it it? :huh:

You're joking right? 

Because I say its about the same amount of those who wouldn't buy it as those who would just for the gay romance.

I hate to break this to you but while you are in the majority of being uncomfortable with it you are in the minority of allowing said discomfort to stop you from purchasing the game.

Sorry.



If you were right I think there would be alot more games with male gay romance...

Sorry

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Ryzaki wrote...

SirWalliss wrote...

Stop trying to Gayify the video game industry (and the rest of the world for that matter)! Go start a gay pep rally or somthing somewhere else you liberal scum!


Its hard to detect sarcasm over the interwebs.

And no one's trying to gayify anything. Twould be optional. You have an option to throw your computer out the nearest window or off the nearest building as well. No one would force it on you. :? Unless you lack the mental ability to not do something you don't want to do...in which case I recommend professional help. :unsure: And wonder how you're still alive. :mellow:


What if my Shepard got too drunk to tell the difference between a male and female Krogan?!?! huh huh!!! 

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SirWalliss wrote...



If you were right I think there would be alot more games with male gay romance...

Sorry


Yeah. I get some faith in human intelligence and then...:? *sighs* Makes me wish aliens would blow us all to hell sometimes.

The reason there's not more games with male gay romance is because not many want to do it. Also they see that small porition that they would lose, along with the cost effectiveness of actually placing the content in, to be too risky and or meaningless.

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SirWalliss wrote...

Truth of the matter is, if there was male gay action in ME they wouldnt sell many copies cause MOST people (myself included) are repulsed by the idea. Sorry sausage lovers...


Really?  It didn't seem affect DA:O's sales.  In fact, the possibility of gay romance is such a small part of the game I don't see why it would be an issue.  No one is making you have gay sex in your game, you can stop hiding in the closet now.

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Ryzaki wrote...

SirWalliss wrote...



If you were right I think there would be alot more games with male gay romance...

Sorry


Yeah. I get some faith in human intelligence and then...:? *sighs* Makes me wish aliens would blow us all to hell sometimes.

The reason there's not more games with male gay romance is because not many want to do it. Also they see that small porition that they would lose, along with the cost effectiveness of actually placing the content in, to be too risky and or meaningless.




Thanks for proving my point for me.

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Crazy_Cat_Lady wrote...

SirWalliss wrote...

Truth of the matter is, if there was male gay action in ME they wouldnt sell many copies cause MOST people (myself included) are repulsed by the idea. Sorry sausage lovers...


Really?  It didn't seem affect DA:O's sales.  In fact, the possibility of gay romance is such a small part of the game I don't see why it would be an issue.  No one is making you have gay sex in your game, you can stop hiding in the closet now.



I did kinda have a crush on Alstair...  Did I just come out??

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SirWalliss wrote...

Crazy_Cat_Lady wrote...

SirWalliss wrote...

Truth of the matter is, if there was male gay action in ME they wouldnt sell many copies cause MOST people (myself included) are repulsed by the idea. Sorry sausage lovers...


Really?  It didn't seem affect DA:O's sales.  In fact, the possibility of gay romance is such a small part of the game I don't see why it would be an issue.  No one is making you have gay sex in your game, you can stop hiding in the closet now.



I did kinda have a crush on Alstair...  Did I just come out??


Sure sounds like it.  All I'm saying is I have no interest in gay romance so you know what i did?  I just didn't pursue it!  Wow, amazing!

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I honestly doubt they'd lose much in the way of sales, I'd also venture that the minority who's so bigoted against homosexuality that they'd boycott is balanced by the amount of people who would buy it for having the gay content in it.



Personally, I think I'm only going to rent ME2 and the same for 3, unless they get over the whole lack of inclusion of homosexual relations, then I'd purchase it just to support that. Somehow, I'm unsure EA is going to bend on that though. : /

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SirWalliss wrote...

Thanks for proving my point for me.


Uh...your point was that ME sales would plummet not that the romances themselves wouldn't be cost effective. :mellow:

DA:O proves that point wrong.

Also how many games have romances like BioWare's games anyways? Not many. The closest I can think of are JRPGs and usually those are suggestive with the M/M.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 25 février 2010 - 09:19 .


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Cat Lance wrote...

I honestly doubt they'd lose much in the way of sales, I'd also venture that the minority who's so bigoted against homosexuality that they'd boycott is balanced by the amount of people who would buy it for having the gay content in it.

Personally, I think I'm only going to rent ME2 and the same for 3, unless they get over the whole lack of inclusion of homosexual relations, then I'd purchase it just to support that. Somehow, I'm unsure EA is going to bend on that though. : /


Ok you doubt they would lose any in sales if they included it, yet you will not buy it because it doesnt include it.  I'd buy it if it did have gay romance in it, I just think the game wouldnt be as good cause they be taking away from other areas to include a gay romance...  Just doesnt make much sense to me,  I buy the game if it had no romance at all.  I dont depend on games for my romancing, I never knew it was that important to the gay comunity.

To the Lady who said she would rather see male on male then fem on fem, you are in the minority amoung women.  I have actually had this conversation with many women and they ALL said they would rather see female on female then dude on dude.  Women are just better looking then us blokes.  You cant really tell me you would rather see mans hairy butt instead of a womans, can you?? 

Think about it people, would you really rather see two dudes then two women?  Women are just better looking even from a non sexual point of view. 

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Topic does not compute.

Why people complain about this? Go to a bar and snuggle your preferred choice of gender.

Topic still does not compute...


SirWalliss wrote...
[..] Just doesnt make much sense to me,  I buy the game if it
had no romance at all.  I dont depend on games for my romancing, I
never knew it was that important to the gay comunity.[..]


So tru...

SirWalliss wrote...
To the
Lady who said she would rather see male on male then fem on fem, you
are in the minority amoung women.  I have actually had this
conversation with many women and they ALL said they would rather see
female on female then dude on dude.  Women are just better looking then
us blokes.  You cant really tell me you would rather see mans
hairy butt instead of a womans, can you?? 


So tru too...

Modifié par Sadja, 25 février 2010 - 09:34 .


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Ryzaki wrote...

SirWalliss wrote...

Thanks for proving my point for me.


Uh...your point was that ME sales would plummet not that the romances themselves wouldn't be cost effective. :mellow:

DA:O proves that point wrong.

Also how many games have romances like BioWare's games anyways? Not many. The closest I can think of are JRPGs and usually those are suggestive with the M/M.



You know what, your right.  Reason being I loved DA and played through it twice and dont even remember there being any gay romances, cant even recall an option to.  So it didnt bother me at all.

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SirWalliss wrote...

Cat Lance wrote...

I honestly doubt they'd lose much in the way of sales, I'd also venture that the minority who's so bigoted against homosexuality that they'd boycott is balanced by the amount of people who would buy it for having the gay content in it.

Personally, I think I'm only going to rent ME2 and the same for 3, unless they get over the whole lack of inclusion of homosexual relations, then I'd purchase it just to support that. Somehow, I'm unsure EA is going to bend on that though. : /


Ok you doubt they would lose any in sales if they included it, yet you will not buy it because it doesnt include it.  I'd buy it if it did have gay romance in it, I just think the game wouldnt be as good cause they be taking away from other areas to include a gay romance...  Just doesnt make much sense to me,  I buy the game if it had no romance at all.  I dont depend on games for my romancing, I never knew it was that important to the gay comunity.

To the Lady who said she would rather see male on male then fem on fem, you are in the minority amoung women.  I have actually had this conversation with many women and they ALL said they would rather see female on female then dude on dude.  Women are just better looking then us blokes.  You cant really tell me you would rather see mans hairy butt instead of a womans, can you?? 

Think about it people, would you really rather see two dudes then two women?  Women are just better looking even from a non sexual point of view. 


Majority of females know prefer male x male. And would that same guy that wants to see fxf want to see to hairy ugly woman going at it? No? Didn't think so. ;) Frankly seeing two female lesbians no matter how attractive makes me cringe.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 25 février 2010 - 09:36 .


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Blah double posts.

Go away.

*leaves threat*

Modifié par Sadja, 25 février 2010 - 09:37 .


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Stop trying to Gayify the video game industry (and the rest of the world for that matter)! Go start a gay pep rally or somthing somewhere else you liberal scum!

Have you ever seen Milk?

Anyway, I'm a conservative, and know plenty of conservatives who support gay rights.  My mom is gay, and I'm bisexual.  I think its important and fair for male players to get an equal amount of choices the female players get.  We get two f/f options so far.  It's only fair for MShep to have an option in ME3.  If you don't agree with the topic, kindly state your opinion, but please don't flame.  And stop harrassing the people who want to continue the discussion.

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Have you ever seen Milk?

Anyway, I'm a conservative, and know plenty of conservatives who support gay rights.  My mom is gay, and I'm bisexual.  I think its important and fair for male players to get an equal amount of choices the female players get.  We get two f/f options so far.  It's only fair for MShep to have an option in ME3.  If you don't agree with the topic, kindly state your opinion, but please don't flame.  And stop harrassing the people who want to continue the discussion.
/quote]

I drink it every morning and it comes from the breast of a female cow!!  Ok no really that phoney baloney plastic bannana good time rock and roller movie Milk??  The one with the flaming red diaper doper baby liberal Sean Penn??  The good people at Bio cant make a love scene for every flippin weirdos phantasy out there or thats all the damn game would be about.  Gimmie a break...

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