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[Ryzaki]

Karl45 wrote...
Except we have better beer, nicer people, and prettier women.

??? I don't know where you've been but their are very nice people in the US and very pretty women. I don't drink so I can't say anything about beer.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 24 février 2010 - 12:23 .

[Haasth]

Arik7 wrote...

Ninja Mage wrote...


Well they are being homophobic ryuuichi. When the damn CEO of the company says male shep is predefined regarding his sexuality but fem Shep isn't what else would you call that?

There are definitely homophobic undertones to BioWare's recent statements from Casey Hudson and Ray Muzyka....

I wouldn't say that those statements are homophobic that quickly... it is likely just so it wont harm their profits... Fact is, homosexuals are a minority and there are still a lot of people who dislike the thought of having that in their games. Or at least, I would imagine so... but like I said, I couldn't care less myself and I find it a little silly of BioWare to record them, then take them out. 

[ARK of ILKS]

Ryzaki wrote...

Ninja Mage wrote...


Well they are being homophobic ryuuichi. When the damn CEO of the company says male shep is predefined regarding his sexuality but fem Shep isn't what else would you call that?

You call the CEO an idiot and moron the very fact that there was Thane/M!Shep and Kaidan/M!Shep audio files in the game should tell you that BioWare is not homophobic. <_<

More than likely they were stopped from putting it in. Most likely by someone above who thought it would harm their "profits". The BioWare devs aren't completely to blame for this. (Though honestly they really should have taken the lesbian relationships out to cover their ass).

Haasth wrote...



True,you cant really blame BIOWARE itself, only individuals within BIOWARE.

Ryzaki wrote...

ARK of ILKS wrote...

XyleJKH wrote...

I
enjoy this thread and I would have to agree on the one fact about why
people are pissed. Being gay should be a choice, as is the choice to BE
gay in the game. I would not personally choose a male shepard to be
gay, but I am sure there are types who would view "their" shepard to be
such
The game is made in canada, likely one of the top ten gay friendly countries. We should show that to the world.

I know that this is an important dicussion and everyting but.... the game was made in CANADA?../../../images/forum/emoticons/sick.png

Wait...lol BioWare is in Canda. I'm sorry but I have to laugh for a moment.

I'm...like 4 hours away from Canada.

Not so different from America after all. ../../../images/forum/emoticons/cool.png

I want to visit Canada. Oh, and America too... ../../../images/forum/emoticons/sad.png

Err... Yes... So... Homophobic. Obviously.

That's not what I meant. I meant placing artistic merit BELOW profits. ../../../images/forum/emoticons/lol.png

[ARK of ILKS]

You cant really blame BIOWARE itself, you should blame individuals within BIOWARE.

[Ryzaki]

ARK of ILKS wrote...

You cant really blame BIOWARE itself, you should blame individuals within BIOWARE.

Pretty much this.

Also all this mud-slinging on both sides needs to stop. It really does.

[Haasth]

Ryzaki wrote...

ARK of ILKS wrote...

You cant really blame BIOWARE itself, you should blame individuals within BIOWARE.

Pretty much this.

Also all this mud-slinging on both sides needs to stop. It really does.

But where would we be without the draaaaamaaa? 

[Ninja Mage]

I'm not blaming BIOWARE the company I'm blaming whoever said, " No gay in the game," And it was probably the CEO, Ray Muzkya. I like Bioware and I am thankful for the ''ghey'' in dragon age. But I wont be satisfied with a glass half full

[ARK of ILKS]

This thread has been so much fun. Nice mud-slinging everyone.

[ARK of ILKS]

This thread has been so much fun. Nice mud-slinging everyone.

[Ryzaki]

Haasth wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

ARK of ILKS wrote...

You cant really blame BIOWARE itself, you should blame individuals within BIOWARE.

Pretty much this.

Also all this mud-slinging on both sides needs to stop. It really does.

But where would we be without the draaaaamaaa? 

I wouldn't have this collasal headache is were we would be.

I mean damn its like this: 

1. I DON'T WANNA NO HOMOS IN MY GAMEZZZZZ!!!!

2. BIOWARE IS HOMOPHOBIC FOR NOT PUTTING A GAY ROMANCE

3. ALL YOU GUYS NEED TO SHUT UPPP

4. Well -

1. SHUT UP SHEP ISN'T GAY!!!!

2. YOU SHUT UP1!!!!

1. BE QUITE F***

1 & 2 go at it for a while and 3 starts posting random pictures.

4. *sigh*

That's always how it goes. <_<

Modifié par Ryzaki, 24 février 2010 - 12:28 .

[Ninja Mage]

~ Throws chocolate pie at Ryuuichi~

[Iyn-Han]

Ryzaki wrote...

ARK of ILKS wrote...

You cant really blame BIOWARE itself, you should blame individuals within BIOWARE.

Pretty much this.

Also all this mud-slinging on both sides needs to stop. It really does.

Agreed Ryzaki... But unfortunatly this is quite a delicate subject, so I think some mud-slinging is to be expected.

[Haasth]

Ryzaki wrote...

Haasth wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

ARK of ILKS wrote...

You cant really blame BIOWARE itself, you should blame individuals within BIOWARE.

Pretty much this.

Also all this mud-slinging on both sides needs to stop. It really does.

But where would we be without the draaaaamaaa? 

I wouldn't have this collasal headache is were we would be.

I mean damn its like this: 

1. I DON'T WANNA NO HOMOS IN MY GAMEZZZZZ!!!!

2. BIOWARE IS HOMOPHOBIC FOR NOT PUTTING A GAY ROMANCE

3. ALL YOU GUYS NEED TO SHUT UPPP

4. Well -

1. SHUT UP SHEP ISN'T GAY!!!!

2. YOU SHUT UP1!!!!

1. BE QUITE F***

1 & 2 go at it for a while and 3 starts posting random pictures.

4. *sigh*

That's always how it goes. <_<

And I wouldn't want it any other way. 

[SarEnyaDor]

I'm going to disagree with the OP on one point, I'm a straight female gamer and I DO NOT want to see two guys getting it on at all, it is not cute or attractive to me in the slightest. It is just as squicky to me as girl on girl nastiness.



I was able to easily avoid this, however, by not playing a male character and romancing Zevran or playing a female and romancing Leli in Dragon Age. I'm pretty sure if Mass Effect had a male who'd be interested in a male Shep I could just as easily avoid that romance as I avoided Liara's.

[Iyn-Han]

Haasth wrote...
ldn't want it any other way. 

Bastard...

[Ninja Mage]

I don't want a flame war but stupid redneck trolls come in here and **** about gay shep. Shep might be gay. Sorry redneck nerds

[Ryzaki]

Iyn-Han wrote...
Agreed Ryzaki... But unfortunatly this is quite a delicate subject, so I think some mud-slinging is to be expected.

Doesn't make it any less annoying.

Haasth wrote...
And I wouldn't want it any other way. 

Of course not you feed off the negative emotions. You evil emotion...vampire...evil thing!

Also another girl gamer that wants man on man hawtness. Yes that makes me shallow.

I just don't want to listen to Hale's cringe worthy flirty voice mostly though. <_<

Modifié par Ryzaki, 24 février 2010 - 12:34 .

[Tawmis]

Ninja Mage wrote...

I support your viewpoint Miss Sylwia...I'm gay and I don't want to see two girls getting it on, I want man on man action. But Bioware has been pretty sexist and homophobic regarding this issue for some reason. FemShep isn't even ''canon'' supposedly so all the girls playing femshep are just playing for nothing. Anyway, nice thread

/hats off to you

I agree - I am hetrosexual but know several homosexual/gay males who have played ME2 or plan on playing it.
So it would be nice to have that freedom for those who want to pursue it.

As for BIOWARE being sexist and homophobic regarding this issue - have you even played DRAGON AGE ORIGINS?

I seriously doubt it's an issue of being sexists or homophobic.

For whatever their reasons, it wasn't included in ME2. A shame. But not game breaking. And it's not like there's much to chose from for males. Garrus has an attactive personality. Zaeed is the only other human male. I suppose there's Thane and such. Just like how there's Tali for the males.

Whatever their reasons - again - a shame it didn't get put in ME2. But the issue is clearly not that their sexist or homophobic, as DA:O proves (which came out before ME2, so it's not like DAO was made with those opitions in answer to it not being available in ME2).

[ARK of ILKS]

Tawmis wrote...

Ninja Mage wrote...

I support your viewpoint Miss Sylwia...I'm gay and I don't want to see two girls getting it on, I want man on man action. But Bioware has been pretty sexist and homophobic regarding this issue for some reason. FemShep isn't even ''canon'' supposedly so all the girls playing femshep are just playing for nothing. Anyway, nice thread

/hats off to you

I agree - I am hetrosexual but know several homosexual/gay males who have played ME2 or plan on playing it.
So it would be nice to have that freedom for those who want to pursue it.

As for BIOWARE being sexist and homophobic regarding this issue - have you even played DRAGON AGE ORIGINS?

I seriously doubt it's an issue of being sexists or homophobic.

For whatever their reasons, it wasn't included in ME2. A shame. But not game breaking. And it's not like there's much to chose from for males. Garrus has an attactive personality. Zaeed is the only other human male. I suppose there's Thane and such. Just like how there's Tali for the males.

Whatever their reasons - again - a shame it didn't get put in ME2. But the issue is clearly not that their sexist or homophobic, as DA:O proves (which came out before ME2, so it's not like DAO was made with those opitions in answer to it not being available in ME2).

The people that made DAO werent that developed the ME2

[newcomplex]

Arik7 wrote...

newcomplex wrote...

Arik7 wrote...
It wouldn't be completely fair, but anything is better than complete and utter exclusion.  At least ladies got to discuss lesbian movies and flirt with Morinth and Kelly, and they get to continue their romance with Liara....

Kelly and Morinth are squadmates .

I'm talking about just randomly having sex with a random guy in omega or something, which would be your only option if nobody in your crew was openly gay.   Thats isn't consistent with any of the thematic elements in Mass Effect at all, and their is no chance Bioware would allow either gender to do that.   ME is a space opera with romantic elements, not a japanese romance simulator.   

Kelly is a squadmate?  What are her powers?  What is her class?

Morinth is a flirt for one mission, unless you decide otherwise....

Sorry, I meant shipmates.    

[luckyirish.dowd]

Also, I know that this would be much more work and a whole lot more writing and programming, but I would also like the ability to be able to have a relationship with ANY of my teammates or main characters, regardless of sex or race. I think that it would be interesting that, even though a child might not be produced, you can still find love through interspieces relationships. Think Grunt's hot? Well, say the right things to him and he'll start to focus some of that Krogan battle rage on his affections for you. Allows wished that Garrius would take notice of you (whether male or female)? Well, now's your chance to make you feeling known to him. Think that Moridin could find some way to genetically combine both your DNA's? Well, he'll sure try now. Love and relationships don't have to be about having kids. They can simply be there because they are there. After all, there's a comercial in Omega that broadcasts interspecies dating, ranging from the benign to the kinky. Why should Shephard be allowed to enjoy that?



Another thing that I've always wished since they started having the relationship option was for you to engineer your crewmates relationships for each other. Why not make it so that you can start to make any of your teammates begin to love or hate another teammate, with bonuses associated towards them if they work together in the same group? You can then get Jacob and Mirranda to fall in love, or Garrius and Grunt (that would be one deadly child), or Moridin and the Asari.



Then, depending on their feels towards their teammates, they could have different abilities hightened in battle. If they're falling in love, when they're on the same team they suffer less damage. If they hate eachother, that pent up aggertion carries over into more damage against the enemies. I just think that this will add another RPG element that players can choose to enjoy in Mass Effect.

[techpriest1]

Darth_Trethon wrote...

YEAH....and what's the deal with no animal romance? I mean there are a lot of people that want to enjoy a perfectly normal love like the love between a man and another man's dog.

/sarcasm

LOL. Signed
yes, we want option to romance BOO or fish at least!!!

[Iyn-Han]

SarEnyaDor wrote...

I'm going to disagree with the OP on one point, I'm a straight female gamer and I DO NOT want to see two guys getting it on at all, it is not cute or attractive to me in the slightest. It is just as squicky to me as girl on girl nastiness.

I was able to easily avoid this, however, by not playing a male character and romancing Zevran or playing a female and romancing Leli in Dragon Age. I'm pretty sure if Mass Effect had a male who'd be interested in a male Shep I could just as easily avoid that romance as I avoided Liara's.

I wouldn't want to "see" it either, but I think the choice should be there. Even if you and I (and a whole lot of other players) don't want to check it out, some other people would certainly like it.

[didymos1120]

newcomplex wrote...
Kelly and Morinth are squadmates .

I'm talking about just randomly having sex with a random guy in omega or something, which would be your only option if nobody in your crew was openly gay.   Thats isn't consistent with any of the thematic elements in Mass Effect at all, and their is no chance Bioware would allow either gender to do that. 

Sha'ira begs to differ with you.

[Ryzaki]

didymos1120 wrote...

newcomplex wrote...
Kelly and Morinth are squadmates .

I'm talking about just randomly having sex with a random guy in omega or something, which would be your only option if nobody in your crew was openly gay.   Thats isn't consistent with any of the thematic elements in Mass Effect at all, and their is no chance Bioware would allow either gender to do that. 

Sha'ira begs to differ with you.

As does the Consort from ME1 <_<