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[ARK of ILKS]

2 hours disscussing and look how it ends..... time paradoxes.





triple dammit

[Creature 1]

Ryzaki wrote...

  So if someone drops a Bridget on Shepard in ME3, is it ok since then he's not really gay, just confused?  That makes almost as much sense as the "F!Shep isn't lesbian because it's an alien" argument for including f/f. 

[addiction21]

Ryzaki wrote...




That's for you.

I call your bet and raise you  40 seconds in should be right.

Modifié par addiction21, 24 février 2010 - 01:58 .

[Ryzaki]

Creature 1 wrote...

  So if someone drops a Bridget on Shepard in ME3, is it ok since then he's not really gay, just confused?  That makes almost as much sense as the "F!Shep isn't lesbian because it's an alien" argument for including f/f. 

Yup he's not gay. Just confused. Besides everyone's gay for bridget.

And Big Boss. But if Big Boss was in ME3 Shep would be reduced to a cameo.

Because BB is just that awesome.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 24 février 2010 - 02:00 .

[ARK of ILKS]

MsKlaussen wrote...

Ninja Mage wrote...

javierabegazo wrote...

Ninja Mage wrote...

I support your viewpoint Miss Sylwia...I'm gay and I don't want to see two girls getting it on, I want man on man action. But Bioware has been pretty sexist and homophobic regarding this issue for some reason. FemShep isn't even ''canon'' supposedly so all the girls playing femshep are just playing for nothing. Anyway, nice thread

/hats off to you

So If I write a short story, and it's about a love story between a man and a woman, and there doesn't happen to be a M/M romance also featured in the novel, I'm a homophobe?

Yes, especially if your last novel had two lesbians getting it on, and then your next novel has two lesbians and two aliens, but no gay men whatsoever.

Wrong. It does not follow that failure to demonstrate preference for something can only be rooted in hatred or fear of it. Nor is demonstration of one preference a promise to feature another equally.

If that were the way things were you'd have a case against Jack London for not writing about cats, or against Steven King for not setting a story outside Bangor, Maine. But they aren't, and you don't.

As much as this word "homophobic" is tossed around lately I begin to wonder if the majority of America is even aware of what the word "phobic" means.

I'm a straight woman. I can't remember ever being the least bit curious about seeing two guys go at it, and don't know any other women who are all that curious either. Not to where it's missed when it's absent. So that means I hate gays or I'm surpressing some burning need to jump another woman at a bar which can only be quelled by hating someone else?

I can understand the OP's point from the standpoint of being fair to both angles, in theory. But the whole "throw women a bone" thing as if we're just laying awake nights as a group bemoaning the absence of ME guy on guy action is ridiculous.

More importantly,  this is a fictional universe made up in its majority by aliens for crying out loud! What guarantee did anyone have that any of Shepard's shipmates could even be classified as male or female in the first place before romance options popped up that made it obvious?! Could someone possibly do a more thorough job of making Bioware wish they had left this whole thing alone and instead slapped us with a game that left no doubt about who does what?

Where does this stuff come from? I mean seriously? No matter - now it's my turn. All the little dog creatures in the game look rabid. Shame on you Bioware. Because of you, I may have to shell out $350 an hour to a dog psychologist now because my dog may see the screen and feel stereotyped.

And while we're on the subject, why is it that only one out of every 30 of those little dog creatures is a white dog? Is that representative of the real world at all Bioware, where there are at least 5 more per 30? What were you thinking?

Furthermore, every time I bet on the little white dog in the fighting pit during Grunt's loyalty mission, he lost me money! Bioware!


And another thing! I -

Your a little late to the party.

[Valcutio]

See, this is why Bioware should have avoided adding any gay characters at all in any of their games.



Give an inch.

[ARK of ILKS]

Valcutio wrote...

See, this is why Bioware should have avoided adding any gay characters at all in any of their games.

Give an inch.

Too late to complain buddy, we went at it for 2 hours. Im exhausted.

[Ninja Mage]

Oh shut it Valcutio, Alistair is gay too

[Ryzaki]

Valcutio wrote...

See, this is why Bioware should have avoided adding Romances at ALL to their games.

Give an inch.

Fix'd.

[Valcutio]

ARK of ILKS wrote...

Valcutio wrote...

See, this is why Bioware should have avoided adding any gay characters at all in any of their games.

Give an inch.

Too late to complain buddy, we went at it for 2 hours. Im exhausted.

I really should have taken the time to read or atleast scan the thread but come on.. this has hit 9 pages and I'm sick of seeing these threads. The issue is just stupid.

[MsKlaussen]

ARK of ILKS wrote...

Your a little late to the party.

Ahh! Well then! As you were...

But it wouldn't have killed Bioware to have programmed in at least one of the vicious dog things fetching a paper!

[Ryzaki]

Valcutio wrote...

ARK of ILKS wrote...

Valcutio wrote...

See, this is why Bioware should have avoided adding any gay characters at all in any of their games.

Give an inch.

Too late to complain buddy, we went at it for 2 hours. Im exhausted.

I really should have taken the time to read or atleast scan the thread but come on.. this has hit 9 pages and I'm sick of seeing these threads. The issue is just stupid.

There's this magically thing you can do!

Ignore the thread!!!!

ZOMG !!! No WAI!!!!

Honestly. <_<

[Valcutio]

Ninja Mage wrote...

Oh shut it Valcutio, Alistair is gay too

Only in your fanfiction dreams.

[ARK of ILKS]

40 of the posts are mine. Pretty proud to say the least.

[Ninja Mage]

Miranda- Hey Shepard, wanna see my goodies



Shepard- Um..I'm busy right now Miranda



Miranda- Rips open white suit,Look out my boobs, my cheap black bra



Shepard- Uh yeah, I see them sweetheart



Miranda- AND? Is that all you can say commander, I'm engineered to be the ****tie..I mean perfect woman.



Shepard- We'll I'm kind of busy right now..and..



Miranda- ~Grabs shepard's crotch~ Are You sure? 100 percent...



Shepard- Yep



Miranda- Well then **** you too! I can get some from any guy in the galaxy...



Shepard- Don't take it personally Miranda



Miranda- ~ Grabs vase throws it into wall~ ****



Shepard- LULZ

[Ryzaki]

ARK of ILKS wrote...

40 of the posts are mine. Pretty proud to say the least.

Nice.

Ninja : Seriously I'm on your side.

Either post sensibly or SHUT IT you're making the whole bloody cause look BAD.

[Madame November]

Speaking of inches. Has anyone here ever seen Hedwig and the Angry Inch?



Sorry for being off topic.

[ARK of ILKS]

MsKlaussen wrote...

ARK of ILKS wrote...

Your a little late to the party.

Ahh! Well then! As you were...

But it wouldn't have killed Bioware to have programmed in at least one of the vicious dog things fetching a paper!

How does that have to do with anything.

Rveryone knows futuristic papers float to you using rockets, everyone knows that. DUH.

[Valcutio]

Ryzaki wrote...

ARK of ILKS wrote...

40 of the posts are mine. Pretty proud to say the least.

Nice.

Ninja : Seriously I'm on your side.

Either post sensibly or SHUT IT you're making the whole bloody cause look BAD.

There's a cause now? Great.

[FataliTensei]

Sylwia94 wrote...

Hello, I decided to write this thread because I feel so pissed off by BioWare statement about FemShepard and MaleShepard. I'm heterosexual girl and I can understand when game does not include homosexual romances but I totally can't understand it, when game includes lesbian romances but does not include gay romances.

So BioWare please tell me one good reason why you doing that.  Just please don't tell me "Shepard is a pre-defined characte" because it's make no sense when I even can choose his sex and as FemShepard I can shoose her sexual orientation. I can't understand why the hell i can't choose sexual orientation of male Shepard when i can choose sexual orientation of female Shepard? I just want to know that, because that is one of very few things I totally can't understand.

For me as a heterosexual girl, "boy-to-boy action" is far more acceptable and pleasant to the eye than "girl-on-girl", what is saying simple, disgusting for me. And by this reason I feel totaly ignoring by BioWare, same as many girl gamers, according to posts here and on other forums. As I said, it's not a problem when game does not include same sex romances but if game includes lesbian romances but does not include gay romance, it's  just ignoring of girls(and other ppls but they said it in another threads) and it's shows you only worried about boys, and not this normal boys but that adolescent jerks, too worried about their sexuality to see two boys making out.  

Your games(ME and ME2) are often refered as candidates to best games ever so please make it perfect in all ways. The one of main adventago os MEs is that you can direct your character anyway you want, but unfortunately, this applies only to female character. I just simply wondering why there is a range on sexualities possible for a female character, a male character can be only heterosexual. I just can't understand this, so please BioWare make it clear why you did it and, what is more important fix it and let us, girls enjoy the full adventages of this game too!

I can understand your currently policy if it's be thing than only few ppls want but after so much popular threads here(and on other sites too) and hundreds of ppls supporting it your policy of ignoring us and closing thread is just dissapointing. Bit like unintelligible restrictions restrictions in MEs after perfect Dragon Age where you don't discriminating girls. I think for such a big company policy like this is really unsuitable so please read this thread  and finally satisfy us!

To ppls reading this thread i just want say - i know there was been many threads like this before but none of them present the matter like this. And i know it's looks like it's be supossed to be letter to BioWare, not thread but support of ppls are important and since last thread were deleted we don't have thread like this(or i've missed it?sorry if someone else made thread like this) so I post it here, also for more ppls can read what I and most girl(according to girl's posts in much sites and my friends). And trolls please keep out, if you are too much worried about your sexuality to see two guys making out just don't do it, like in RL where you can do it but you don't doin, right? You have your lesbians so let us fight for same adventages too, pretty please, i don't wan Stanley Woo to have next pretext to close our thread and ignore us...  It's all what I've have to say, I think, so cya, i hope for support.

It's a known double standard

[Arik7]

Valcutio wrote...

See, this is why Bioware should have avoided adding any gay characters at all in any of their games.

Give an inch.

It doesn't matter whether BW has included same-sex romance options before or not.  The open-ended RPG genre implies it.   People play RPGs because they wish to create their own adventure.  If an RPG has romances, many people wouldn't be satisfied with strictly hetero choices, not at this day and age.

[the_one_54321]

I take it that "Bridget" is a man in drag?

[Ryzaki]

Valcutio wrote...


There's a cause now? Great.

Great now we have two trolls.

All well this thread can only get worse. So whatever.

[newcomplex]

ARK of ILKS wrote...

Tawmis wrote...

Ninja Mage wrote...

I support your viewpoint Miss Sylwia...I'm gay and I don't want to see two girls getting it on, I want man on man action. But Bioware has been pretty sexist and homophobic regarding this issue for some reason. FemShep isn't even ''canon'' supposedly so all the girls playing femshep are just playing for nothing. Anyway, nice thread

/hats off to you

I agree - I am hetrosexual but know several homosexual/gay males who have played ME2 or plan on playing it.
So it would be nice to have that freedom for those who want to pursue it.

As for BIOWARE being sexist and homophobic regarding this issue - have you even played DRAGON AGE ORIGINS?

I seriously doubt it's an issue of being sexists or homophobic.

For whatever their reasons, it wasn't included in ME2. A shame. But not game breaking. And it's not like there's much to chose from for males. Garrus has an attactive personality. Zaeed is the only other human male. I suppose there's Thane and such. Just like how there's Tali for the males.

Whatever their reasons - again - a shame it didn't get put in ME2. But the issue is clearly not that their sexist or homophobic, as DA:O proves (which came out before ME2, so it's not like DAO was made with those opitions in answer to it not being available in ME2).

The people that made DAO werent that developed the ME2

The writers were.

[addiction21]

Valcutio wrote...

Ninja Mage wrote...

Oh shut it Valcutio, Alistair is gay too

Only in your fanfiction dreams.

Well I do not know if darkspawn have genders but