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sylvanaerie wrote...

I expected Anora in the playthrough I made her Queen to do it but it didn't make sense when I thought about it a second time.  After all, she's no warrior, why would she be there on the front lines just to make a speech?  I accepted Alistair making the speech cause Riordan was a johnny come lately who hasn't even been in Ferelden and doing anything toward getting the armies together and what not.  And the PC's speech being as its not voiced would just be a lot of pantomiming.  Ultimately the speech Alistair makes isn't about HIM anyway, its about what the PC has done, what the Gray Wardens collectively have done and what the King died trying to do.  Who else is going to make the speech but the only Gray Warden present who has been with the PC from the beginning?

I guess those who recruit Loghain get to see a speech from him?  I'd find that stranger than Anora giving it.


No. Anora gives it.  She goes to Denerim and leads her troops if she's queen.  It does make sense for her to give it over Alistair.  

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ejoslin wrote...

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It's the Grey Warden thing, mostly. He is with you from the beginning and he bears the burden of being a Warden just as much as you do.  He guides you through the early stages (mostly the conversations at Flemeth's hut and in Lothering) and, in some games, is the one who pushes the PC to step up. He's also the only companion who will default to continuing to fight the darkspawn (if he's not made king).

He also allows himself to be used to unite the country even though it's the very last thing he wants, which is pretty selfless.

But I did say "sort of makes sense". There is some justification for a Grey Warden to be front and center, since the Wardens are being honored, than there is the other companions. Mostly, though, it's just the fact that the companions are hard-coded to be certain places in the Landsmeet Chamber and, since he can be king, it makes sense for him to be on-stage.


He really doesn't push the warden -- he doesn't give her a choice at all.  He refuses to lead.  If you ask him why he won't make a choice where to go first, he again outright refuses to lead as he doesn't really know where they should go.  Whether the warden steps up gracefully or not is irrelevant.  And if he's not king, he was not used to to unite the country.

I can buy the Grey Warden being front and center, but where is Riorden?  I don't think it makes sense at all for Alistair to make that speech if he's not king.  I don't think he's supposed to, though.  I think Anora not giving that speech is a bug.

Edit: But he does a helluva job giving it.  It's one of my favorite parts of the game.


He encourages my warden- pointing out that basically they are the only people who can fight the Blight and avenge those who were betrayed and fell at Ostagar.

As far as the speech, I assume that they only wanted to animate/voiceover it for two people. Even with DT, I think Alistair will always give the speech unless Loghain has been spared, in which case Anora gives it (even if Alistair is king). And, even if he isn't king, it makes more sense for him to be there to give the speech, since Anora isn't fighting and probably wouldn't march. Ultimately, since the PC is the leader of the armies, s/he should give a speech but that's impossible.

Modifié par SurelyForth, 24 février 2010 - 07:16 .


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Xandurpein wrote...

I think I'd pick my speech from the original Blackadder series.

"Now there may be a certain amount of... violence, but we all know it's for a good thing."


Totally late getting in on this, and I'm carrying things OT, but I just wanted to express my extreme approval of this. DA:O needs more Blackadder!

"Blood! Death! War! Rumpy pumpy! Triumph!"
True inspiration.

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ejoslin wrote...

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I expected Anora in the playthrough I made her Queen to do it but it didn't make sense when I thought about it a second time.  After all, she's no warrior, why would she be there on the front lines just to make a speech?  I accepted Alistair making the speech cause Riordan was a johnny come lately who hasn't even been in Ferelden and doing anything toward getting the armies together and what not.  And the PC's speech being as its not voiced would just be a lot of pantomiming.  Ultimately the speech Alistair makes isn't about HIM anyway, its about what the PC has done, what the Gray Wardens collectively have done and what the King died trying to do.  Who else is going to make the speech but the only Gray Warden present who has been with the PC from the beginning?

I guess those who recruit Loghain get to see a speech from him?  I'd find that stranger than Anora giving it.


No. Anora gives it.  She goes to Denerim and leads her troops if she's queen.  It does make sense for her to give it over Alistair.  



Hmm okay you must get that if you spare Loghain (in which case, Alistair is not with you to make it).  In the couple playthroughs I let Anora stay queen it was still Alistair giving the speech and he continues to refer to himself as king (as in your talk trying to get him to do the ritual just prior to that).  Yes it would have made more sense if she was queen...still I just assumed it had to do with her not being a warrior and getting herself in the middle of fighting like that was not a good thing.  Maybe my game is bugged?

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Hmm okay you must get that if you spare Loghain (in which case, Alistair is not with you to make it).  In the couple playthroughs I let Anora stay queen it was still Alistair giving the speech and he continues to refer to himself as king (as in your talk trying to get him to do the ritual just prior to that).  Yes it would have made more sense if she was queen...still I just assumed it had to do with her not being a warrior and getting herself in the middle of fighting like that was not a good thing.  Maybe my game is bugged?


No, I don't think your game is bugged any more than anyone else's, actually.  I love it that Alistair gives the speech -- he is fantastic and his leadership finally shows.  But it doesn't make sense if you examine it too closely.  So I choose not to :whistle:

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ejoslin wrote...

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Hmm okay you must get that if you spare Loghain (in which case, Alistair is not with you to make it).  In the couple playthroughs I let Anora stay queen it was still Alistair giving the speech and he continues to refer to himself as king (as in your talk trying to get him to do the ritual just prior to that).  Yes it would have made more sense if she was queen...still I just assumed it had to do with her not being a warrior and getting herself in the middle of fighting like that was not a good thing.  Maybe my game is bugged?


No, I don't think your game is bugged any more than anyone else's, actually.  I love it that Alistair gives the speech -- he is fantastic and his leadership finally shows.  But it doesn't make sense if you examine it too closely.  So I choose not to :whistle:



LOL good point...in those cases I just say "Its in the script" even if it doesn't make sense to me.  And I love that Alistair has finally grown into his role as a Gray Warden.   I always remember Duncan's last words to the PC and Alistair before he went off to join Cailan about expecting PC and Al to be worthy of the title "Gray Warden" when Al is giving it.

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Game is bugged so you don't see Anora's speech even if she's queen, not Alistair. Dialogue tweaks fixed this for me.. But I SO regretted that I ever got to hear that speech! Really, as someone said, you don't wanna hear it. I'd rather stick with delusional Alistair, thank you very much.

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I found it a bit weird also. I played through and kept Loghain and lost Alistair, with my human male noble being betrothed to Anora. Anora gave the speech.



I re-loaded from the landsmeet, let Alistair kill Loghain, still betrothed Anora and put her on as Queen and Alistair gave the speech as if he were made King. In the brief Redcliffe conversation Alistair acted as if he were King with Anora not being involved at all (while int he playthrough where he left Anora was there as Queen).



I found that extremely odd.

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ejoslin wrote...

sylvanaerie wrote...

Hmm okay you must get that if you spare Loghain (in which case, Alistair is not with you to make it).  In the couple playthroughs I let Anora stay queen it was still Alistair giving the speech and he continues to refer to himself as king (as in your talk trying to get him to do the ritual just prior to that).  Yes it would have made more sense if she was queen...still I just assumed it had to do with her not being a warrior and getting herself in the middle of fighting like that was not a good thing.  Maybe my game is bugged?


No, I don't think your game is bugged any more than anyone else's, actually.  I love it that Alistair gives the speech -- he is fantastic and his leadership finally shows.  But it doesn't make sense if you examine it too closely.  So I choose not to :whistle:


It's the voice that does it for me. Anora's just doesn't inspire the same way as Alistair's does, so I'm glad this part bugs out.

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The conversation bugs don't bug me so much. I am sure that I am not the only one who makes up their own dialog and talks to the computer while picking response lines. On one playthrough I made a female mage and missed the conversation in Redcliff where Alistair said that Conner being a mage made it so that he was not eligible to rule. When I picked the option at the Landsmeet where I could say Alistair would be king and I would be his queen I chose that . . . then he publicly dumped me. So from then on it was totally my personal conversation choices.

Alistair: It is up to one of us to do the final blow on the Archdemon.

Me: Knock yourself out. I will enjoy seeing you fry.

Alistair: Don't try to stop me, it is my choice to make as the senior warden.

Me: Get on with it already. What are you waiting for?

Alistair: Do I get a kiss before I go?

Me: Are you kidding me? Get out of here.

Achievement: Warden Commander



Then the next playthrough I was still so mad at Alistair that he never left camp. When I spared Logain, he said "What? After all we have been through you are going to side with him over me?"

I said "What are you talking about? You are only the camp cook. And you are terrible at that"

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ejoslin wrote...

SurelyForth wrote...

Spitz6860 wrote...

yeah, i think the writing team just got a little bit lazy and used the same speech for him regardless if he's the king or not. also after the game ends he stands on the opposite side of Anora, beside the throne, like he's king or something, i thought it was kind of outa place.


It sort of makes sense for him to be positioned more prominently than the rest of the audience, as he is also a Grey Warden and is also worthy of commendation (not that he gets any...ever). I guess they couldn't figure out another place to cram him on the main floor so that you can talk to him after the coronation.


Out of pure curiosity, what does Alistair do at that point that sets him apart from the rest of the companions?  I mean, of course he's a Grey Warden and of Theirin blood, but what exactly has HE done that has set him above anyone the Warden is traveling with?

I understand if he's king, why he should be giving that speech.  He's the KING!  But otherwise, why him and not the Warden or Riorden or Anora (who should be giving it if she's the solo queen and there)?

edit: Aside from making a mean lamb and pea soup that is . . .

Well...

My Warden was an Elf Mage. Now, if you were the average Fereldan footsoldier, and you were in an army with two Grey Wardens at the head of it, and one of them was a human rumored to be a son of King Maric, while the other was some elven mage...which would you expect to be calling the shots? So I figured Alistair was just clarifying what might have become an awkward question in the midst of battle.

'Sides, it was nice to hear him say all that nice stuff in front of all those people and know he believed every word of it. Posted Image

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Seymour_North wrote...

ejoslin wrote...



Out of pure curiosity, what does Alistair do at that point that sets him apart from the rest of the companions?  I mean, of course he's a Grey Warden and of Theirin blood, but what exactly has HE done that has set him above anyone the Warden is traveling with?

I understand if he's king, why he should be giving that speech.  He's the KING!  But otherwise, why him and not the Warden or Riorden or Anora (who should be giving it if she's the solo queen and there)?

edit: Aside from making a mean lamb and pea soup that is . . .

Well...

My Warden was an Elf Mage. Now, if you were the average Fereldan footsoldier, and you were in an army with two Grey Wardens at the head of it, and one of them was a human rumored to be a son of King Maric, while the other was some elven mage...which would you expect to be calling the shots? So I figured Alistair was just clarifying what might have become an awkward question in the midst of battle.

'Sides, it was nice to hear him say all that nice stuff in front of all those people and know he believed every word of it. Posted Image


That wasn't my question though :)

Edit: I've heard Alistair and Anora give the speech, and I way prefer it when Alistair gives it.  But that doesn't mean it makes sense under certain circumstances for him to make it.  However, as I said later, I just don't think too much about it.

Modifié par ejoslin, 24 février 2010 - 10:04 .


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Alistair gives the speech better. The voice actor has more inflection. Anora has a fine voice actress but she shouldn't be screaming battle cries. Some people's voices just don't sound right doing that sort of thing.

Anyway, I am in the "I wish I gave the pre-battle speech" camp, but sadly since your PC isn't voiced that will never happen. [in modern games, anyway] If they choose to preset your character type in DA2 [which I would bet on] then the protagonist will likely be voiced and give speeches, a la Shepard in Mass Effect, [ME2 Shepard gives about 3 seperate speeches i think.]


I also found it very ANNOYING that when I dueled Loghain, he says, "It's either you or me the troops will follow, so let us fight over it."

And guess who leads the troops? Not me at all. UGH.

Modifié par Vicious, 24 février 2010 - 10:25 .


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Vicious wrote...

Alistair gives the speech better. The voice actor has more inflection. Anora has a fine voice actress but she shouldn't be screaming battle cries. Some people's voices just don't sound right doing that sort of thing.

Anyway, I am in the "I wish I gave the pre-battle speech" camp, but sadly since your PC isn't voiced that will never happen. [in modern games, anyway] If they choose to preset your character type in DA2 [which I would bet on] then the protagonist will likely be voiced and give speeches, a la Shepard in Mass Effect, [ME2 Shepard gives about 3 seperate speeches i think.]


I also found it very ANNOYING that when I dueled Loghain, he says, "It's either you or me the troops will follow, so let us fight over it."

And guess who leads the troops? Not me at all. UGH.


Awww don't say that.  Technically you did since the player is the one who calls on the armies you gathered.Posted Image

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King or not, yeah he was the senior warden and the heir to the throne. It seemed 'right' to me that he made the speech, I found myself proud of him for finally showing a spine, accepting a measure of leadership, in spite of his efforts to avoid it. He stepped up when it counted.

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RavenOryon wrote...

King or not, yeah he was the senior warden and the heir to the throne. It seemed 'right' to me that he made the speech, I found myself proud of him for finally showing a spine, accepting a measure of leadership, in spite of his efforts to avoid it. He stepped up when it counted.


That's how I felt too. It was like he was finally coming into his own and decided to show his appreciation for the PC and all their effots by giving this great speech and rallying the troops. It does feel very sudden and unexpected if he's unhardened, but it felt natural for him to do it when he's hardened.

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RavenOryon wrote...

King or not, yeah he was the senior warden and the heir to the throne. It seemed 'right' to me that he made the speech, I found myself proud of him for finally showing a spine, accepting a measure of leadership, in spite of his efforts to avoid it. He stepped up when it counted.


He handed ALL leadership off to his junior warden, a brand new recruit -- he couldn't even make a decision on where to go first. Calling him the senior warden is based ONLY on time as being a warden, nothing to do with his actual role, which was as a subordinate. And at that point if he is not king, he has renounced his claim to the throne for himself and all his children.

Edit: Really, is inability to even help the warden lead, while I understand why necessary from a game play point of view, was reprehensible.  The warden had just gone through an extremely tragic loss as well -- the loss of everyone near and dear to them -- yet one of them had to step up and try to save the world.

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ejoslin wrote...

RavenOryon wrote...

King or not, yeah he was the senior warden and the heir to the throne. It seemed 'right' to me that he made the speech, I found myself proud of him for finally showing a spine, accepting a measure of leadership, in spite of his efforts to avoid it. He stepped up when it counted.


He handed ALL leadership off to his junior warden, a brand new recruit -- he couldn't even make a decision on where to go first. Calling him the senior warden is based ONLY on time as being a warden, nothing to do with his actual role, which was as a subordinate. And at that point if he is not king, he has renounced his claim to the throne for himself and all his children.

Edit: Really, is inability to even help the warden lead, while I understand why necessary from a game play point of view, was reprehensible.  The warden had just gone through an extremely tragic loss as well -- the loss of everyone near and dear to them -- yet one of them had to step up and try to save the world.


I didn't mind him giving it really, just would have been nice the one time I let Anora rule alone if she had given it.  But having read what others have said on the thread it was just as well since Steve Valentine did a better job at the speech than Anora's voice actress did.

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ejoslin wrote...

RavenOryon wrote...

King or not, yeah he was the senior warden and the heir to the throne. It seemed 'right' to me that he made the speech, I found myself proud of him for finally showing a spine, accepting a measure of leadership, in spite of his efforts to avoid it. He stepped up when it counted.


He handed ALL leadership off to his junior warden, a brand new recruit -- he couldn't even make a decision on where to go first. Calling him the senior warden is based ONLY on time as being a warden, nothing to do with his actual role, which was as a subordinate. And at that point if he is not king, he has renounced his claim to the throne for himself and all his children.

Edit: Really, is inability to even help the warden lead, while I understand why necessary from a game play point of view, was reprehensible.  The warden had just gone through an extremely tragic loss as well -- the loss of everyone near and dear to them -- yet one of them had to step up and try to save the world.


It's not reprehensible though, because he suffers from massive amounts of self-doubt and honestly thinks he can't do it and that you can. Every origin pretty much establishes the PC as being uber-kick ass, and not all of the origins have just went through tragic losses. And, it HAS to be that way, full stop. It's his role to support while you lead.

ETA: Anora's voice actress just can't pull off the volume as well without going a little shrieky. This is a bug that I am happy exists, actually.  

Modifié par SurelyForth, 25 février 2010 - 03:01 .


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SurelyForth wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

RavenOryon wrote...

King or not, yeah he was the senior warden and the heir to the throne. It seemed 'right' to me that he made the speech, I found myself proud of him for finally showing a spine, accepting a measure of leadership, in spite of his efforts to avoid it. He stepped up when it counted.


He handed ALL leadership off to his junior warden, a brand new recruit -- he couldn't even make a decision on where to go first. Calling him the senior warden is based ONLY on time as being a warden, nothing to do with his actual role, which was as a subordinate. And at that point if he is not king, he has renounced his claim to the throne for himself and all his children.

Edit: Really, is inability to even help the warden lead, while I understand why necessary from a game play point of view, was reprehensible.  The warden had just gone through an extremely tragic loss as well -- the loss of everyone near and dear to them -- yet one of them had to step up and try to save the world.


It's not reprehensible though, because he suffers from massive amounts of self-doubt and honestly thinks he can't do it and that you can. Every origin pretty much establishes the PC as being uber-kick ass, and not all of the origins have just went through tragic losses. And, it HAS to be that way, full stop. It's his role to support while you lead. 


Oh, my main objection is his being referred to as the senior warden and heir to the throne.  He was senior warden in time served ONLY; for all other purposes, he was the subordinate to the warden.  And if Anora is queen, he is no longer heir to the throne -- he renounced that.

*grin* Ok, I regret my edit because it takes away from the point I was trying to make!

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Vicious wrote...

Alistair gives the speech better. The voice actor has more inflection. Anora has a fine voice actress but she shouldn't be screaming battle cries. Some people's voices just don't sound right doing that sort of thing.

Anyway, I am in the "I wish I gave the pre-battle speech" camp, but sadly since your PC isn't voiced that will never happen. [in modern games, anyway] If they choose to preset your character type in DA2 [which I would bet on] then the protagonist will likely be voiced and give speeches, a la Shepard in Mass Effect, [ME2 Shepard gives about 3 seperate speeches i think.]


I also found it very ANNOYING that when I dueled Loghain, he says, "It's either you or me the troops will follow, so let us fight over it."

And guess who leads the troops? Not me at all. UGH.

I have a different perspective on this as a dwarven player. My warden had very little connection to the humans and not a lot of interest vested in the outcome of who ruled Ferelden. So I would have very much rathered have had Alistair give the inspire-the-troop speech so the armies could relate better to a human (maybe not the dwarves so much, but certainly the humans and elves). Anora doesn't work for me, not because of the way she delivers it or anything, but because she's this dainty noble that looks out of place. If Alistair wasn't available to give the speech, I'd have very much rathered it came from Riordan instead. This was the Grey Wardens' fight and it just flows better if the speech comes from Alistair or Riordian. Although if I was mainly a human player, I probably would want to be the one screaming at the top of my lungs about how we're going to dine in hell tonight and all that jazz. =p

Modifié par Gilsa, 25 février 2010 - 03:06 .


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ejoslin wrote...

SurelyForth wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

RavenOryon wrote...

King or not, yeah he was the senior warden and the heir to the throne. It seemed 'right' to me that he made the speech, I found myself proud of him for finally showing a spine, accepting a measure of leadership, in spite of his efforts to avoid it. He stepped up when it counted.


He handed ALL leadership off to his junior warden, a brand new recruit -- he couldn't even make a decision on where to go first. Calling him the senior warden is based ONLY on time as being a warden, nothing to do with his actual role, which was as a subordinate. And at that point if he is not king, he has renounced his claim to the throne for himself and all his children.

Edit: Really, is inability to even help the warden lead, while I understand why necessary from a game play point of view, was reprehensible.  The warden had just gone through an extremely tragic loss as well -- the loss of everyone near and dear to them -- yet one of them had to step up and try to save the world.


It's not reprehensible though, because he suffers from massive amounts of self-doubt and honestly thinks he can't do it and that you can. Every origin pretty much establishes the PC as being uber-kick ass, and not all of the origins have just went through tragic losses. And, it HAS to be that way, full stop. It's his role to support while you lead. 


Oh, my main objection is his being referred to as the senior warden and heir to the throne.  He was senior warden in time served ONLY; for all other purposes, he was the subordinate to the warden.  And if Anora is queen, he is no longer heir to the throne -- he renounced that.

*grin* Ok, I regret my edit because it takes away from the point I was trying to make!


Well, whether he wanted it or not, he was the heir to the throne by blood. He couldn't change that part even if he wanted to, he could just choose to not claim it ;)

and yeah, I didn't really mean to imply that he was the senior warden in any other aspect than time served. From what he states early on, he was a Jr. of sorts. Ah, poor Alistair....good thing he has us PCs to make the tough choices. lol

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Alistair fell asleep at the Landsmeet, and when he woke up, everyone forgot to tell him that Anora or your Warden and Anora, or your dog got the crown. And since he gave such a rousing speech, no one had the heart to break the rythym and correct him.



You, however, can politely keep him informed on his regal/lack of status by downloading dialogue tweaks or the Alistair dialogue patch, which not only removes him of his delusions of confirmed royalty, but unlocks previously bugged dialogue options for those of us who like him in the un-coronated variety.

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Skadi_the_Evil_Elf wrote...

Alistair fell asleep at the Landsmeet, and when he woke up, everyone forgot to tell him that Anora or your Warden and Anora, or your dog got the crown. And since he gave such a rousing speech, no one had the heart to break the rythym and correct him.

You, however, can politely keep him informed on his regal/lack of status by downloading dialogue tweaks or the Alistair dialogue patch, which not only removes him of his delusions of confirmed royalty, but unlocks previously bugged dialogue options for those of us who like him in the un-coronated variety.


LOL well if you propose to him while making him king he DOES say "this is the point I usually wake up..."

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ejoslin wrote...

Seymour_North wrote...

ejoslin wrote...
Out of pure curiosity, what does Alistair do at that point that sets him apart from the rest of the companions?  I mean, of course he's a Grey Warden and of Theirin blood, but what exactly has HE done that has set him above anyone the Warden is traveling with?

I understand if he's king, why he should be giving that speech.  He's the KING!  But otherwise, why him and not the Warden or Riorden or Anora (who should be giving it if she's the solo queen and there)?

edit: Aside from making a mean lamb and pea soup that is . . .

Well...

My Warden was an Elf Mage. Now, if you were the average Fereldan footsoldier, and you were in an army with two Grey Wardens at the head of it, and one of them was a human rumored to be a son of King Maric, while the other was some elven mage...which would you expect to be calling the shots? So I figured Alistair was just clarifying what might have become an awkward question in the midst of battle.

'Sides, it was nice to hear him say all that nice stuff in front of all those people and know he believed every word of it. Posted Image


That wasn't my question though :)

Edit: I've heard Alistair and Anora give the speech, and I way prefer it when Alistair gives it.  But that doesn't mean it makes sense under certain circumstances for him to make it.  However, as I said later, I just don't think too much about it.

Um, yes, it was one of your questions (I've highlighted it). I'll grant I only answered partially, though: in my particular game, there was a decent rationalization for "why Alistair?"

To try to answer more completely, and more generally:

1) It's a military operation, led by the Grey Wardens. Anora isn't a soldier, even though she wears armor when she does give the speech, so it's not essential (though also not improper) for her to show up and speak. Your mileage may vary, of course, but it didn't occur to me to miss her when she didn't.

2) Riordan is a Warden, and senior to both the PC and Alistair (and R never forgets it)--but he's one of those "furriners" from Orlais, and thus likely to be viewed with some distrust by most Fereldans. That's plenty of reason for him not to stand up and deliver inspirational speeches to that audience.

3) The Warden could give the speech, it's true. I think the PC voice actors could have recorded it without too much trouble, since it's just one static speech that wouldn't branch like the conversations. But maybe that's exactly the problem. Restricting every character any player can dream up to the same speech could really clash with some character concepts. ...And then there's the fact that the speech as delivered by Alistair-or-Anora is quite complimentary to the PC. That sort of thing is always more credible if someone else says it!

...OK, so my arguments for the Warden not giving The Speech aren't all that great. Here's another thought, though. I've forgotten whether there's a transition into the battle immediately afterwards, or if there's a break between the two. If they're discrete scenes, then perhaps The Speech really is just an NPC introducing the Warden, after which he or she gives the real go-get-'em speech off-screen, where it's whatever the player imagines? ;-)