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[Spyndel]

sinosleep wrote...

So does this mean that vanguards are definitely the best class now? Cause there are several of us that cleared this in under 3 minutes.

If we're only worried about the clock, Ramsen's casual impromptu Revanent Soldier vid above clocks in at 2:19.

[sinosleep]

And his vanguard vid clocks in at 2:05.

[edit here] ALthough honestly I don't give a crap, I'm just being an instigator. 

Modifié par sinosleep, 24 février 2010 - 04:58 .

[RamsenC]

sinosleep wrote...

So does this mean that vanguards are definitely the best class now? Cause there are several of us that cleared this in under 3 minutes.

Yes it does

instigate away

[sinosleep]

Awesome sauce. You da man RamsenC!

[thisisme8]

It's bad when the Vanguards have to settle Soldier disputes which indirectly showcase Vanguard awesomeness...

[RamsenC]

thisisme8 wrote...

It's bad when the Vanguards have to settle Soldier disputes which indirectly showcase Vanguard awesomeness...

LMAO <---actual laughter, not fake internet laughter

[SpezXVII]

sinosleep wrote...

So does this mean that vanguards are definitely the best class now? Cause there are several of us that cleared this in under 3 minutes.

While I am an avid Vanguard user, I wouldn't say that based on this alone. You have to take in to account the greater speed at which the Vanguard can travel, then the enemy is knocked back, your shields are boosted, and you do x2 damage. Soldier can't charge, doesn't get the x2 damage of being in shotgun range (though AR takes care of that sort-of), and has to wait for his shields/health to recharge thus slowing his the kill/time ratio.

Now if he also used his other weapons (ie the Mantis) I think that would have cut some time off the run as well.

On a side note, anyone using a Soldier could probably do that run similarly on the first try. How many times does it take a Vanguard user before they figure out the pattern and can do it flawlessly such as you Sinosleep? I'm just going to say it wasn't the first....

[thisisme8]

RamsenC wrote...

thisisme8 wrote...

It's bad when the Vanguards have to settle Soldier disputes which indirectly showcase Vanguard awesomeness...

LMAO <---actual laughter, not fake internet laughter

Awesome. 

SpezXVII wrote...

sinosleep wrote...

So does this mean that vanguards are definitely the best class now? Cause there are several of us that cleared this in under 3 minutes.

While I am an avid Vanguard user, I wouldn't say that based on this alone. You have to take in to account the greater speed at which the Vanguard can travel, then the enemy is knocked back, your shields are boosted, and you do x2 damage. Soldier can't charge, doesn't get the x2 damage of being in shotgun range (though AR takes care of that sort-of), and has to wait for his shields/health to recharge thus slowing his the kill/time ratio.

Now if he also used his other weapons (ie the Mantis) I think that would have cut some time off the run as well.

On a side note, anyone using a Soldier could probably do that run similarly on the first try. How many times does it take a Vanguard user before they figure out the pattern and can do it flawlessly such as you Sinosleep? I'm just going to say it wasn't the first....

Awe, c'mon Spez, why you gotta get all serious on us now?

Modifié par thisisme8, 24 février 2010 - 05:08 .

[sinosleep]

SpezXVII wrote...
While I am an avid Vanguard user, I wouldn't say that based on this alone. You have to take in to account the greater speed at which the Vanguard can travel, then the enemy is knocked back, your shields are boosted, and you do x2 damage. Soldier can't charge, doesn't get the x2 damage of being in shotgun range (though AR takes care of that sort-of), and has to wait for his shields/health to recharge thus slowing his the kill/time ratio.

Now if he also used his other weapons (ie the Mantis) I think that would have cut some time off the run as well.

On a side note, anyone using a Soldier could probably do that run similarly on the first try. How many times does it take a Vanguard user before they figure out the pattern and can do it flawlessly such as you Sinosleep? I'm just going to say it wasn't the first....

I was half joking when I said that, but any way, people on these forums HIGHLY over-estimate how long it takes to get charge order down in levels. It takes about, 5 seconds to memorize spawn points in this game and every encounter featuring collectors boils down to the same thing any way. Kill the collectors so harbinger has no one to control, then kill harbinger, move on to next group. I've said from jump when I first started posting vids what I was doing wasn't super human, guys like RamsenC, Thisisme8, Kronner, and others have proven this is the case by making vids with similar, and sometimes better results than my own. It's really not that complicated to figure who to charge and who not to charge.

Modifié par sinosleep, 24 février 2010 - 05:10 .

[SpezXVII]

thisisme8 wrote...

RamsenC wrote...

thisisme8 wrote...

It's bad when the Vanguards have to settle Soldier disputes which indirectly showcase Vanguard awesomeness...

LMAO <---actual laughter, not fake internet laughter

Awesome. 

SpezXVII wrote...

sinosleep wrote...

So does this mean that vanguards are definitely the best class now? Cause there are several of us that cleared this in under 3 minutes.

While I am an avid Vanguard user, I wouldn't say that based on this alone. You have to take in to account the greater speed at which the Vanguard can travel, then the enemy is knocked back, your shields are boosted, and you do x2 damage. Soldier can't charge, doesn't get the x2 damage of being in shotgun range (though AR takes care of that sort-of), and has to wait for his shields/health to recharge thus slowing his the kill/time ratio.

Now if he also used his other weapons (ie the Mantis) I think that would have cut some time off the run as well.

On a side note, anyone using a Soldier could probably do that run similarly on the first try. How many times does it take a Vanguard user before they figure out the pattern and can do it flawlessly such as you Sinosleep? I'm just going to say it wasn't the first....

Awe, c'mon Spez, why you gotta get all serious on us now?

I have to give Soldier users some kind of ammo to fire back with... (Pun not intended. lol) Strangely enough my CQC Shotgun Infiltrator seems to be my fastest kill/time ratio class.

[sinosleep]

And just to add before someone tries to twist my words around, you don't HAVE to memorize spawn points, and I don't go out my way to do it, but it's not exactly hard to do when most the rooms you fight in are the size of a living room. I mean, you look in front of you, and see where they are...,

[thisisme8]

sinosleep wrote...

And just to add before someone tries to twist my words around, you don't HAVE to memorize spawn points, and I don't go out my way to do it, but it's not exactly hard to do when most the rooms you fight in are the size of a living room. I mean, you look in front of you, and see where they are...,

I call hax.  Where's Vatever when you need him/her...?

Edit:  I gotta stop going to Happy Hour on Tuesdays and getting on the forums...

Modifié par thisisme8, 24 février 2010 - 05:18 .

[sinosleep]

lol, Vhatever is in general, where he belongs.

Modifié par sinosleep, 24 février 2010 - 05:19 .

[RamsenC]

You'd be surprised how little you die once you figure Vanguard out. All my Vanguard videos were made on the first or second try on insanity and I have terrible memory. Soldier is definitely safer, but not that much safer, at least the way I play.

edit: I don't actually care which class is OP, we vanguards were joking for the most part. All that matters is the Vanguard keeps me playing this game and posting on this forum, which is better than simply being the most OP class.

Modifié par RamsenC, 24 février 2010 - 05:25 .

[Ackillez]

Well, there was never really much doubt about what class can do things faster because Vanguard wins hands down, in spite of the no charge between platforms bug/feature in this case. Vanguards usually make for the most intriguing vids because of all the high-intensity action and usually being a few seconds away from death, but vids only show the successful runs and I'm quite sure vanguard players tend to reload more often than soldier players. I've been pondering getting some vanguard footage myself, making one tribute vid and one 'can't get a lock!' compilation.

[SpezXVII]

Ok, I admit that my Vanguard is my favorite character and no matter what class I play, I always find myself wishing I could charge. Nothing compares to the Vanguard experience. It is by far the most fun. (I know that's subjective but I don't care. =P)



Let's see a soldier storm the Colossus......

[Average Gatsby]

Wait, is there some kind of race going on for that collector platform section, because I definitely think my Adept can at least get very close to whatever the record is. It is possible to insta-kill the first and second platform with detonations.



Also here's me totally derailing this thread.

[RamsenC]

Average Gatsby wrote...

Wait, is there some kind of race going on for that collector platform section, because I definitely think my Adept can at least get very close to whatever the record is. It is possible to insta-kill the first and second platform with detonations.

Also here's me totally derailing this thread.

I'd like to see that actually

[sinosleep]

SpezXVII wrote...

Ok, I admit that my Vanguard is my favorite character and no matter what class I play, I always find myself wishing I could charge. Nothing compares to the Vanguard experience. It is by far the most fun. (I know that's subjective but I don't care. =P)

Let's see a soldier storm the Colossus......

LMFAO, yeah, that's one feat I don't see any other class replicating. 

[thisisme8]

Average Gatsby wrote...

Wait, is there some kind of race
going on for that collector platform section, because I definitely
think my Adept can at least get very close to whatever the record is.
It is possible to insta-kill the first and second platform with
detonations.

Also here's me totally derailing this thread.

sinosleep wrote...

SpezXVII wrote...

Ok, I admit that my Vanguard is my favorite character and no matter what class I play, I always find myself wishing I could charge. Nothing compares to the Vanguard experience. It is by far the most fun. (I know that's subjective but I don't care. =P)

Let's see a soldier storm the Colossus......

LMFAO, yeah, that's one feat I don't see any other class replicating. 

This thread went from page 1 fail to page 2 win.

Edit:  I'm with RamsenC, even though I saw the no guns video where you completely destroyed platform 2 in about a second, I'd like to see it with everything you have at your displosal.  Fav powers, squaddies, weapon, whatever.  Adeptual Chaos.

Modifié par thisisme8, 24 février 2010 - 05:33 .

[Ulysseslotro]

RamsenC wrote...

 Ended up making the Revenant video. Getting sick of the collector ship but here it is.



edit: *sigh* Forgot to show the difficulty, guess you will have to trust me :l

hehe 2:19 isn't bad at all.

But I can get under 2 minutes so Widow rulez!

[Awesome Helmet]

as much as i was impressed with the widows killing power with my infiltrator, id have to say the revenant is better. i mean the revenant is ridiculous. forget about its inaccuracy, that thing puts things down fast. plus i was getting tons of one shot kills on insanity with the mantis anyways. once i got the revenant with my soldier, i didnt even use anything else. that guns awesome, the only reason to play a soldier.

[SpezXVII]

Looks like the thread is no longer officially derailed...

On topic: I prefer the Rev. It has more utility I think.

Modifié par SpezXVII, 24 février 2010 - 05:36 .

[RamsenC]

Well 2:19 is the length of the total video, you should count from the first shot at least. Also have to remember you still get the viper with the Rev and you won't run out of ammo the way you just did. I'm sure I could beat that time as well

[RamsenC]

Ulysseslotro wrote...

RamsenC wrote...

 Ended up making the Revenant video. Getting sick of the collector ship but here it is.



edit: *sigh* Forgot to show the difficulty, guess you will have to trust me :l

hehe 2:19 isn't bad at all.

But I can get under 2 minutes so Widow rulez!

I just  noticed something in that video. The last platform comes while the second Scion is still alive. I've had that happen sometimes, but I have no idea what causes it to happen. Thats a huge part of why your time is better. Probably not the best area to compare speed runs.

edit: The last platform may come sooner if you kill the first scion early.

Modifié par RamsenC, 24 février 2010 - 06:18 .